Al Krow

What are you going to be playing through? Unless I was going straight into a PA, I'm kinda struggling to see the need for an amp and cab sim, given that I'm pretty happy with how my amps and cabs sound.

Haha! You only find that working the day after a new bass sucks?! What about every other day? 😂😁🤣

In terms of all round capability combined with value for money the Zoom B3N is very hard to beat. The new Zoom B1 Four may, however, be a really good alternative, given it has the same chipset as the B3N.

Although not Dave's reason, the B3 also has a DI out which the B3N annoyingly doesn't. (But otherwise it would seem that the B3N is the better unit).

Haha! - He'll get over it as soon as he discovers how great it sounds! I had one of my guitarists 'begging' me to please use my Ibby (as it happens instead of my old Berg which had been my goto bass - and obviously looks like a Fender given that Holger unashamedly stole Fender's design), and often had random compliments about my Ibby from strangers (particularly musos) on what a good looking bass it was. So you may be pleasantly surprised!

Weights and balance The P35 actually 'hangs' a little more comfortably off my frame than my other three Yammys. So when I put them all on the scales I was a little surprised to find: P35 and NE2 - 10.2 lbs 735A and 1025 - 9.6 lbs The combination of a slightly heavier body and lightweight tuners on the P35 gives it more of a balance between neck and body and, in consequence, there is a touch less neck dive on the P35. Still getting used to having individual volume controls on the P35 - it's actually a really nice feature, but the flip side is that it's a bit less easy to switch pups than by using the selector switch on the 1025 or dialling a pup selector knob mid song, as you have to deal with two knobs rather than just one. Fortunately not something I'm needing to do too often. @M@23 - my Ibby SR1825 weighs in at 8.3 lbs, and is therefore nearly 2lbs lighter than your old P35 so if you want a lightweight bass, like a touch of the Warwick growl from the pups, appreciate a 3 band EQ and find a fast neck a delight then I'd definitely recommend you also checking out the Ibby SR Premium range; you'll have plenty of change left over from your Berg into the bargain!

But the wiring and shielding may differ. Plastic vs metal casing etc. So that could well result in the noise issue on the B1on that Ped mentions that we don't seem to be getting with the MS-60B.

Thanks Ped. That's definitely worth knowing and would be a deal breaker for me. I'd prefer to pay a little more for better quality. No point having a bass and rig that you're really happy with and then your sound mucked up by a £40 pedal.

Ah, that's a new bit of information. The B1on is noisy in what sense? Fyi no noise issues for me at all with the B3N with an isolated supply.

Ok wot happened? Up for sale, then not, then up, then not. It seems to me that the lady is for turning! 😁 (PS right decision, btw, you won't get anything else of similar capability for £80!)

Excellent. For the money, it's almost a no brainer! And looks a lot of fun, particularly with the expression pedal. I can't really 'justify' getting based on my lack of gig use of my existing pedals, however for the money it's almost a no brainer. ...oh dear, I seem to have got caught in the Looper 😂

So continuing with the 'nub' if I may. I get that where the wood of an instrument is the sound box, what the wood is made of and how it is finished has a massive bearing on tone e.g. violins and why you pay £50 for one and £500,000 (or more) for another. The wood of the bass is not, however, the sound box. It is instead the housing for the soundbox (the pups), the rigid framework for the strings and a convenient location for the onboard EQ. But I take your point that wood resonance will feed back via bridge string saddles and the nut to the string vibrations in some potentially non-negligible fashion. The question then becomes one of degree of impact? On that score, I guess I'm still at where I was at the start of this thread that: pups, strings and EQ will be the dominant drivers of bass tone the wood will have some impact but will likely be relatively small compared to the three dominant drivers

Speaking of YouTube clips, here's an unknown bass player getting a great sound from a BB1200 (? - would make sense as that model was launched around 1977). Apparently Yamaha was one of his goto basses during the 80s. You can really hear what a good / 'dominant' bass sound he delivers through a decent pair of headphones (just don't use dannybuoy's as he clearly seems to be getting weird results through his from his earlier post 😀)

@TrevorR - that was fascinating, thank you for sharing those clips! Two quotes from the comments below the YouTube clip, that struck me as being of note: "There is no magic involved. This is simply a physical phenomenon known as resonance. The solution is in the table top on which the metronomes are mounted. As you can see in the video the tabletop on which the metronomes are mounted is swinging a bit. This swinging increases as more metronomes come into sync. This is caused because there is a slight unbalance in the movement of all the metronomes together which causes the table top to start swinging. Action = reaction. In theory, if all metronomes would be set perfectly randomly, the resulting force operating on the table top should be zero because they all compensate for each other. But in practice this is not the case as the it is almost impossible for the experiment to be perfect. So there is always a resulting force which cause the table top to start moving. This movement will enforce the kadans of the metronome which are in sync, a physics phenomenon which is known as resonance. On the other hand it will temper the ones which are not in sync, thus slowing them down until they reach the resonating frequency of the swinging table top. Then they will start to resonate too. So the metronomes are not synchronizing to each other, but to the swing frequency of the table top. If you would mount the metronomes on a concrete floor, you will see that they won't come into sync because they can't resonate." "So sad when the only left rebel metronome finally aligns itself" I guess the questions that come to mind are: what is the size of any wood resonance in comparison to the string resonance? My instinct is that they will be miniscule. And secondly from the examples you have provided, it would seem that resonance acts to reinforce and therefore to amplify rather than add complexity aka richness to tone?

Love to hear you playing your Yammy live - any YouTube clips of your band in action?

Know what you mean. If I had only bought shares in that fruit company (I think it was called 🍏? )....

Thanks for sharing but not really of the same quality as @phobucket's (which IMO is a really well put together review). This 1 minute review didn't really show anything much at all other than if you have two modern BBs set the same, they sound very similar! No demonstration of the active capability of the 735A which is its big differentiator, so actually not that useful at all...

Aha! Now all clear to me. The folly of youth, followed by the wisdom and regret of maturity! 😂 You mention studio work - session musician or your own originals band work?

Mark (aka @M@23) had a previous thread which seems to have disappeared during the site upgrade, so I have the pleasure of starting a fresh one for him. Absolutely top guy; in fact a bit of a privilege for me to meet up and spend a bit of time with a pro bass player like Mark, who makes a decent living from what I'm doing just as a passion and hobby. Oh yes, and he sold me a lovely bass for a very fair price, which I suspect I am going to absolutely love playing. Great to meet you, buddy, and thanks for the bass! Bas

So is this guy just spouting dangerous crap?! 😄

So you would be interested in getting a 3000MA but when one came up you didn't buy it, because you don't like neck-through basses? Ok, you've got me totally confused (btw - that's easily done) - seems to me like you had a go-beserk day! 😂