Al Krow

8.37 cm

Well done to Musik-Produktiv for being first out of the block in breaking price 'cartel' ranks: https://www.musik-produktiv.com/gb/mesa-boogie-subway-wd-800-10113222.html

FI software update coming soon! I knew there was a reason I'd not spent time getting to grips with the FI PC editing just yet... this is from the owner of Panda Audio posted on TB: "Furthermore, if you look at the video on youtube you can see that it was released in May 2018, so it is not two years old. But anyway, I am busily working on the software now and the FI software will be finished in early April, but yet with a temporary editor. It would be useless to release the software before a final editor is ready, and also until proper sounds are designed to demonstrate the new features. We will have to rearrange and skip some of the 99 factory preset sounds, to make space for the new ones. Anyway, our editor designer, Zsolt works usually very quickly, so there is good hope that you can get the new release soon. Andras Szalay" This is going to make an excellent pedal even better!

Yes, definitely, when you've bought a bunch of investments for your pension and seen their value plummet. Although as someone better paid than me once said "it's a zero sum game!" But not when you're making a donation to a good cause and seeing a smile on a young child's face. And also not when you've bought a piece of kit that brings a grin to yours.

Out of interest, how long have had your Stomp? I've just seen your pedal-board clear out in the FS of some really good dedicated pedals and I'm thinking "yup, another person has just cottoned on just how good their Stomp is!". It seems to me that the Stomp is already having an impact on the supply and demand for dedicated pedals. And the direction of travel IMHO (aka in my opinionated and not always correct mind) is clear. And goodness knows how good the next generation Stomp is going to be! That is one bass pedal I will be getting for sure and it may also end up being the last one I ever need.

I'm not sure whether I've not seen that not occur or just not yet? But you're right, the important thing here is to make sure that you only lose money on things that you're happy to lose money on, in amounts that you can afford to lose. You'll note that there were no negatives in that last statement whatsoever.

I found the HPF to be just as good if not better on the B3n

How good is a Zoom B3n? User interface - 7/10 (on a scale where a MS-60B is about 3/10 until you discover the tonelib free editing software and then suddenly it's a breeze) Quality of effects sims - 6/10 (gets a little blown out of the water by Helix these days) Value for money - 7/10 (there's nothing better out there for a comparable price)** Compactness - 3/10 It's a great gateway to a bunch of dedicated pedals which you end up getting 'cos the B3n doesn't quite cut it. Then you get a Helix Stomp and start selling off the dedicated pedals you've just gone and previously bought 😊 **see later posts about the new Zoom B1 Four and Four X that's just about to hit the shelf.

Sorry couldn't resist (for the second time today)... 😎

Even more fixed.

After the weekend gig and last night's rehearsal I'm still struggling to work out whether I prefer the sound of my Yammy BB 735A in passive or active mode! But loving having both options on tap in a classic P/J BB 5er. How are folk typically playing their 734/5As - actively or passively or both?!

We've all had a mega rant on the Mesa WD-800 thread about the £1,299 retail price for that head when the same head retails for $999 in the US i.e. 70% more expensive in $ terms over here rather than the usual 20% to 30% more. So it's nice to see a retailer NOT playing 'cartel' over here and introducing some price competition. Good luck to them - I suspect that they'll be getting a fair few extra sales.

Here's an example to support your thesis. The DG M900 puts out > 900W at 4 ohms. There is a 2ohm selector switch which effectively cuts the power output to the cab. The DG spec states: "Min-Load: Press when using a 2Ω load. You can use this control to lower the output if your 4Ω cabinet is not able to handle more than 500W (you can also get 350W with an 8Ω cabinet in this configuration)." It's the bit in brackets that I'd never really taken on board before, but completely ties in with what you're saying. So scaling up, my DG M900 will put out around 950W through a 4 ohm cab and around 600W through an 8 ohm cab. Nice

I don't think anyone was ever saying that a valve amp or dirt pedal has all the finesse of a compressor, merely that valves and dirt bring an element of compression to the picture. But apparently they don't compress at all they clip rather than compress, which merely is similar in effect to compression in terms of what we hear. Compression can also be used to sustain a note and typically a dirt pedal does this as well. I have no idea how 'clipping' would do that though...

I have to smile. So 700W @ 4ohms = 350W @ 8 ohms. Simples, right? So when I suggested earlier today that 500W @ 4 ohms = 250W @ 8 ohms, I got told that wasn't the case... it would be more like 350W @ 8 ohms So I have no idea who to be believing on this stuff, the manufacturers or more-expert-than-me BC'ers?

You'll next be saying that the Morris Marina was the most fun car ever... 😄

Even more so if the amp is able to handle 2.67 or 2 ohm loads? 4 ohms should be a walk in the park!

...And then get a Metro 24 and sell the Nano+ to me 😂

Apologies for resurrecting a zombie thread but was just reflecting on my multi-fx 'journey' which may be of interest to a few others: I got the Zoom B3n when it first came out and it was my 'gateway pedal' to the world of some classy dedicated and mostly analogue pedals and the number and total cost of my pedals soared! I've much more recently got a Helix Stomp and it's pretty much been a general pedal GAS cure! I'll still have a few dedicated pedals I'm sure, but I've got a sneaky suspicion that the number and cost of my pedals is now definitely heading in the opposite direction. There was nothing in the intermediate £300 to £500 multi-fx price range that delivered the compact quality of the Stomp just a couple of years back, so here's a toast to Yamaha / Line 6 for their R&D and innovation in producing an outstanding and affordable piece of kit [PS @Dad3353 if you feel it's worth 'refreshing' the posts so that they are more easily read, then please do! ]

Well yes very true... except very few folk will buy a car blind without test driving it and will almost never within 3 months think 'oh this is not for me'.

Excellent thank you for that. I'll update my post to correct for this and disregard the nonsense on this point I've been fed from others for as long as I can remember

So what's your current "bit of dirt"? Actually that's not completely off topic given that drive pedals will invariably add [something similar in outcome to but which is not in fact] compression

I'm missing something here given that V = IxR The volume knob is effectively a potentiometer (if that's the right term) and increases volume by increasing voltage. Ohms (R) is a fixed. It seems to me therefore that turning volume down has the same effect on reducing current draw and the therefore wear and tear on amp parts as would increasing ohms. So me running my bass amp at "half volume" (in very approx terms and assuming a linear response) through a 4ohm cab is going to be the same as running it at full volume through an 8ohm cab. I simply don't see your argument about a greater ohm cab extending the shelf life of an amp where the volume is the same for both.

Thanks - a lot of common sense. Although if you have an amp that can handle 2 ohms (which, for example, the DG M900 does) then getting a single 4 ohm cab is not going to limit you if you decide you need to add a second (4ohm cab) and you have the benefit of getting the full output from your amp whenever you want (providing your cab can handle it). Just on the sound intensity point Bill, are you saying these guys have got it wrong when they say that +3dB is a doubling of sound intensity? http://www.sounddeadsteel.com/what-is-a-decibel.html