Al Krow

@bassfan congrats on the new bass! Looking forward to seeing you noodling like Mark shortly

Hah! It's a rabbit hole I started down a couple of years back. It's a lot of fun. There'll be plenty of BC'ers with a bunch of experience / wisdom / and occasional bull about most gear and a willingness to share. This particular pedal you're getting is not massively expensive and you can return it. But on that subject... My single biggest learning point over the last couple of years is that if you aim to buy at a sensible price used from a BC'er (and 99.9% of transactions seem to go well - you can check folk's feedback) and you look after the gear while you have it, then you can hold onto something for several months or longer and effectively enjoy 'free rental', particularly with pedals, if you decide to move them on. Alternatively you can carry on doing what you've been doing and avoid rabbit holes and just concentrate on the important thing of making music! 😀

Yup, you're welcome to call me Al any time, any place any where...

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ehx-bass-mono-synth.1383809/ Everything you wanted to know about the pedal you're about to buy without actually buying it. But tell you what - your own 30 mins experience with the pedal will likely be as valuable to you as that entire thread!

Hey Luke - I'm not a massive amp and cab sim user (yet!) so my first reaction would have been "probably not, stick with the B3n". However, coincidentally in response to my post earlier today @la bam said: Which is obviously very relevant to you. My gut sense is that just in the same way folk have found an improvement in the B3n over the B3 due to a newer chip set and greater processing power, that same point but with an even bigger step up would appear to be present from the B3n to the Stomp. And it's this greater processing power which is underpinning the greater realism and quality of the effect sims in the Stomp.

Yup - exactly the reason I moved mine on (or at least the combo cab). The combo was just shy of 80 lbs. And I was already 15 years older before trying to lift it!

I had the M6 combo. Never quite worked out how they managed to sell the combos new for SO much less than the separates!

Octave pedals have their own latency and glitching issues and will not necessarily improve things on that score. If you're after something that comes as close to getting you where you want to be, then you'd better put an ad up for your kindney - my guitarist was massively impressed with the 🐼 FI. And FWIW he also plays keyboard synth.

You'll probably get change from a kidney. So at least that's one good bit of news. More seriously, if you're buying new then you'll have 14 to 30 days to return it for a full refund if it's not up to the mark.

On a more serious note - if you (or anyone else) has put together a killer filter patch, that improves on the TronUp, then please do share The Mutron is a great squelch and there's good reason it's been enduringly popular.

Good man! - let us know how you get on. I think you're amongst the first of synth loving BCer's to get the EHX MonoSynth - so I suspect we all look forward to getting your thoughts, warts and all(!), particularly about how well it tracks when playing 80's songs at original tempo.

Runaway Baby is surprisingly fun, I agree! Particularly when you're jousting with the guitarist for exactly the same bit of sonic territory - I got mine cracking up by trying to play the bass line an octave above him but found I'd run out of dusty-end fret board 😂

So you're not denying that you think I'm old fashioned then eh? 😂

Are you saying I'm old fashioned and behind the times in my thinking?!! Tbf you've probably got a point: anyone who's currently playing 50s and 60s sets (I've just been trying out a semi-walking bass line to Etta's 'At Last') can't really pretend to be 'cutting edge' can they? Although I do have a Helix Stomp... 😂

Hi Tony - try this for size. It's a very basic patch, and I'm sure can be improved on, but already works well with for me with a Yammy BB1025 on P pup setting.

That's useful to note. I'm half expecting my end-2019 board may be down to something like a Stomp + Future Impact, which would tie in with your views on the Stomp being a crap synth pedal. That would still be a major cull!

TJ got me thinking that the only thing holding a couple of us back from getting a 735A is that they're not currently offering it in white. Well I suspect that's not going to be insurmountable is it? 😉

Finally(!!) managed to getting round to spending some time with my Helix Stomp yesterday. I've got an impending sense of foreboding...for a LOT of the dedicated pedals on my board!! Started by just mucking about with a guitar dirt (02 preset) and I thought "hmmm...this is actually pretty tasty - with a bit of tweaking, both my Aftershock and Grizzly Bass could be feeling the heat!" Then went on to set up a 'First filter' patch. Very simple -found the (Mu)Tron sim which is available in both up and down sweep and thought I'd have a bit of fun creating an Aggie Filter twin patch. Ended up just with the up-sweep rather than both together. Well blow me! It's good - A/B'd it with the Fwonk and MXR BEF and I thought "live, this is going to get me 90%+ of the way there" i.e. very usable. For the record - I never felt that about the quality of either the drive or filter effects sims on the B3n. And these were just the first couple of dedicated effects areas I've looked at. Am I already thinking that this is worth the premium over the Zoom B3n (and by extension the rest of the Zoom multifx range). Too right I am!

I'm really looking forward to that. My wallet is dreading it. 😂

Bottom line is that most of us on this forum are bass players and not keys players and might not have any particular wish to take up keys. Sometimes that gets lost in this discussion. Synth bass was originally a way for bands to manage with just a synth and vocals. They would often have electronic drums too. Soft Cell would be a classic example. What we're talking about here is a 'normal' covers band that wants to add a bit of synth bass to a few tracks and has a bass player who is keen to do it.

So much love for the M6 on this thread, including from those who have moved theirs on. The risk of it being too 'loud' has never been an issue for me. I've just turned it down and am glad of the additional 'headroom' in my pocket should it ever be needed. @thodrik has hit the nail on the head when he says "the master volume didn't have much of a gradual taper. It just went from 'off' to 'loud' immediately. It was like an old Marshall guitar amp!" I agree. It seems to me the solution 'to tame the beast' is simply by making sure you've got the master volume set at the right level and not to worry that this might only be between 8 o'clock and 10 o'clock.

Just beautiful!! Congratulations buddy. Many happy years' playing

@mcnach - that's really helpful feedback. Maybe my looking to replace my SC with a BB2 is misplaced in terms of looking to benefit from the horn and higher frequency spectrum 'zing' that should deliver, although I know @chris_b is really happy to have added a SM to his SC to remedy probably exactly the same point as I'm finding with 'just' my SC as a standalone. This one, right? Handles 1200W, which should just about do it! [Aside: must admit I'm a little tickled by the parallel thread currently running on "my Mesa M6 is too loud - help!". I've never found having spare headroom 'in my pocket' for when it's needed to have ever been problematic!]

I'm sure @Bill Fitzmaurice will no doubt be along to confirm that you are correct (assuming that you are) but I'd be very interested to know why his general point about mid-range response and dispersion being overall better with 10" or 12" cones should not apply to all speaker cones irrespective of whether they happen to be inserted into a bass cab or PA cab? At the end of the day we're talking about speaker cones.

Nicely put. But I wouldn't ignore the frequency response differences between the alternatives when deciding on your choice. Otherwise you may be left feeling a little more flat than you expected.