Al Krow

Makes sense. I guess RCF are still setting the bar in terms of quality then?

Sounds like spending the extra on RCF quality for our sub and tops may have been no bad thing? Although the better value Alto, QSC, Headrush and Thomann gear all seem to be getting a good reception on here.

In relation in to my second question a few days back... I've spotted that Phil had already provided an answer to this a couple of years back, in his excellent post, at the start of this thread:

If you fit a series / parallel option to your 424X, together with the reverse-P J set up you've already put on it, and it then ends up sounding as kick-ass as we're thinking it might, why on earth would you want to move it on anyway? Instead, I'd give Yamaha a call and tell them (and or PH) you've come up with a masterbuilt option that they might want to check out...

That was quite enlightening! I'd say the duo sounded "wetter" solo, but would more likely get lost in a band mix and vice versa for the single which would cut through better in the mix. Nicely done Q - already had comments from fellow BC'ers that they can never seem to get their filters sounding as good as you've just managed!

Well it was a great suggestion! Only took us 315 pages to get there... 😄

You going for a push / pull pot set-uo to keep both series and parallel options available like the Doc ordered for his?

But it's giving Peter a different tonal colour, which is what's it's all about here, believe me. Famous audience be damned! 😁

Sounds like a tasty additional option! Wonder why it's not made more widely available? Turn your Yamaha into a Spector, when the context justifies. I mean what's not to like about having that at your finger tips?! Just need to get @Maude to do this as his next mod to his souped-up BB424...

Very cool - and something I suspect a "proverbial" audience would very much warm to! 😉 How does that differ from the same lick played through just one MXR BEF?

Interesting! What difference did you find having them in series? Nice touch being able to switch between parallel and series, as we, with the push / pull pot - more tonal choice from the same bass is always nice to have in terms of versatility.

Yeah fair enough - we've all been there. Not everything is going to pan out perfectly for everyone all the time - otherwise we'd probably all end up playing a Fender P with flats just to keep sound engineers happy! Hope you manage to get it away for a good price.

Yup, that does look good! And great value too (half the price of my RCF)!

Just for my education: is it mainly the body shape / "sharp" edge that's the issue? Are you otherwise liking the core Ric tone?

Useful suggestions gents. I'm sure the BF LF800 will deliver all the bottom end you need. @W1_Prowhich Thomann model did you go for? The CL 112 Sub is rated at 120W RMS going up to 1000W RMS for the Pyrit 212 SubA but looks great value at £525 including VAT. 41kg is going to much for my aging back, though! I'm not sure what folk would reckon is a decent min with a full rock band? My RCF 702 AS ii delivers 700W RMS and is a more manageable 17.5kg / 39lbs which seems to be a decent power / weight compromise for our needs.

Such a shame about the Ric. It's one of those iconic purchases that a lot of us GAS for and then to find it doesn't work out in terms of "feel", must have been really gutting!

Pics (of both) please!

So in keeping with best of the year purchase theme - if you had to save just one of the three "from the fire" which would it be (and why)?

Yes absolutely. Why shell out good money for new kit, if what you have is already excellent? Not everyone has money to burn.

That's still way better than pretty much all the competition. And if it's 90% as good as a 3Leaf Proton Mk4, to the point that an audience doesn't notice, why wouldn't you get this instead? Obviously the proof will be in the A/Bing!

That's a great price. But 20% VAT and £12 Customs handling on top maybe?

I salute that intention my fellow Brummie bass player! I'll see if I can follow in your footsteps in 2022! Are you in a band btw? Actually be really good to know how many of us Yamaha owners are managing to get to use our kit with bands and any clips of us playing live would be a nice addition to this thread. I've posted this elsewhere, but I think it's the only gig I've got a recording of using my BB1025:

One came up a couple of years back in mint condition and just didn't shift and I think was withdrawn. I guess some things just fade from collective consciousness as to how good they were untill someone stumbles on them again and says 'Wow!!'; Mendelssohn's rediscovery of J S Bach has gotta be the ultimate musical example? But the BB2004 really is another hen's teeth Yamaha piece of kit these days - I do hope you manage to find one. I'm still feeling unashamedly unapologetic about jumping on my BB2005 within 24 hours of it coming up for sale - such a fantastic bass! Given you've now had at least 4 different BB models and still have the rather splendid TRB5, I've not completely whitewashed (or whatever the appropriate non-offensive term is these days!) you from the wall, for old times' sake (not that I'm saying you're 'old' btw). Being GAS-free is a wonderful thing, right? I mean being able to focus on actually using our gear and becoming better bass players, rather than being on the never ending tone quest for something only we're going to notice, has got lots of plusses!

Kinda get where you're coming from. However isn't there a more general point that if you're leaving the tops to focus on everything above 110Hz vs 80Hz, given that the sub(s) can handle everything below 110Hz, then that frees the tops up just a bit more, which is a big chunk of the purpose of the set up in the first place? And I wouldn't have thought you'd generally want the sub(s) to be going below 30Hz in any event? Happy to be corrected on both points, if they don't make sense.