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I imagine the Ray 5 is going to popular! Custom neck! Yep - bound roasted figured maple....jees. Custom colour Stainless frets Custom pickup and pre-amp....I wonder if they went alnico or ceramic or potentially even neo like the Bongo! If I was going to shell out cash for a really high end Musicman, that would be it.

I like the Bongo in purple!

Old smoothie is staying in production albeit new colours.

http://blog.music-man.com/instruments/2017-instrument-lineup-announced/?utm_campaign=instruments&utm_source=emailemail2017

Lots of punk and hardcore bands in the 90s onwards use/used a Stingray. One of the reasons I got into them as a 12/13 year old. Good Riddance - mid 90s. Mad Caddies Lagwagon Screw 32 Descenedents The biggest influence for me was just the entire look...I loved the oval plate. As soon as I heard one, I was like 'that is IT!'.

It will work. For amps, I can honestly say Roland/Boss have hit the ball WAY out of the park with the new Katana range. The 50W 1x12 is only £169 and it has almost EVERYTHING you need, and there are old tube snobs saying it is one of the closest solid states amps to tube that's hit the market. No one can understand the low price. You can practice, gig, record, rehearse, the lot....it has headphone out, usb recording, .5 watt mode, a kickstand, acoustic setting, clean/breakup/brown sound, and some stellar effects. It is the most appealing guitar amp series in a long time....and it's stupidly cheap. I think they will put that knowledge into a Boss bass amp.

Is this for use as a bass cabinet?

I would love to see someone take the Trace name and develop the sound /amps into a new era. E.g., similar style to the old amp heads, but much smaller, modern top of the line Class D power, etc. Basically similar to the Ashdown graphic EQ amp head but maybe co-designed with them, pitch the price close to similar amps, design a set of neo cabs. Man....if I was in my career when I had my 400SMX I would have kept it forever!

The OBC115 is a nice cab. I sold my full Orange rig as I live up plenty (LOTS) of stairs and I don't gig with bass at the moment. It was a great setup. I've tried the SP212 (Neo), OBC410 and OBC115.... The old SP212 (no idea what they are like now) was SUPER small and very very loud and grindy. The OBC410 is punchy and aggressive... The OBC115 still has some aggression, nice mids, warmer lows. I'd opt for the OBC115 or the OBC210. The OBC410 is FAR too heavy and hard to move around.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1480419886' post='3184184'] I know we're not supposed to mention this, and that some people refuse to accept that it had any effect, but our sales dropped 42% in the 6 weeks post June 23. In the 6 months before that we were up about 6% year on year (and this was from a high base in 2015). [/quote] A huge shame

I don't mind it, but I can't be bothered to get really good at it, because I've never used it in a band....ever...just for my own personal practice. A Stingray sounds phenomenal when slapped, but I barely do it. I think what winds people up is that people assume 'hey, I'm demoing a bass on youtube, watch how many notes I can play!' a bit like guitarists who have no 'feel' yet can shred like it's a mathematics test. Art vs technique.

[quote name='Bolo' timestamp='1480403802' post='3184006'] MusicMan never had a crap era or hit-or-miss production like 7ender does. A MM bass of any vintage might suit you or might not, but all are fit for live duty and recording. [/quote] I'd agree with this. If you want a vintage style/sounding Musicman, but brand new, just get a Classic Stingray.

I have way too much gear, especially bass gear, so despite the fact I think that is a decent price, I can't justify another bass when I have so many great Stingrays already.

I suspect the recent drop of the £ and the increases in prices has made instruments very difficult to sell, even if it is indirectly, e.g. the price of the instrument hasn't changed, but people have less spare income or are being much more careful.

6 months? Woah, they must be really busy. I waited 4 months once...same company, but 6 must mean they are incredibly busy.

I was shocked as well. I thought behind Sunburst this was a very popular choice. I have a 5 HH in honeyburst and it is very pretty.

[quote name='40hz' timestamp='1479135397' post='3174196'] I maintain that Trace is still a massive name in the bass world. Someone needs to buy the rights to it and bring out some modern products with the Trace DNA. A micro head with the UV light would sell by the bucket load! If someone could condense the sound and features of my old GP12 SMX into a portable, high powered package, well I don't think I'd ever need another amp. [/quote] I had a few Trace amps, the best being the GP12400SMX - I think that was the model number. Huge, heavy head. Once Trace had sent me some new fuses, it never once, not once, went down. I used it for a lot of bands, gigs, recording, etc. I never associated them with funk. I didn't even know britfunk existed as a genre! I just knew of a few funk bands who might use them. I've see far more aggressive/heavier bands use them because of the ability to sound very clear and bright, with gobs of power. The closest thing I have ever got to that sound is the Genz Benz Shuttlemax 9.2. Far superior EQ and control IMO, and gets close to the Trace tone. I imagine Genzler's Magellan is close.

Mowgli for amazing curry. AMAZING.

Pencil me in!

I was about to order but realised I need to stick with what I know which is EB's at the moment.

Yes, it is a shame. I was hoping to take a trip at some point early next year as I'm fairly (ish) local.

I've just got £15 off a new Boss guitar amp (I wanted a solid state clean pedal platform with acoustic ability....and it does that AND it goes down to 0.5W!) just by asking if they could do a Black Friday type deal. It's not an expensive amp and I didn't want it to be... Also, Amazon have some awesome Star Wars t-shirts in all sizes (well a lot of them)...including some weird designs. Smashing Pumpkins t shirt for £7. More than 3 and you get another 10% off and free delivery over £20. Strings Direct have some cheap guitar string offers today....today only...(not bass).

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1479766092' post='3179181'] It'll be interesting to see how the new Sadowsky system sounds. He has a custom pickup built by Carey Nordstrand with a twin single coil pickup at the bridge. One coil is set in the classic 70's position and the other in 60's. Switching allows either one to be used individually or both in tandem. All basses slated to have this configuration will also have the Will Lee mid boost circuit fitted too. I don't think the aim is specifically to get that fat MM sound but knowing Roger this will have been in development and testing for quite a while so ought to work really well. [/quote] The new Sadowsky classic style single cut basses look great; I am surprised I like the style.

I imagine most of the UK deals aren't really 'deals'...but we shall see.

....and now I've seen the diagram approximations, no wonder I think the HS Musicman gets close to a Jazz bridge pickup when one coil is selected...it is almost exactly the right spot. I tend to drop treble and boost mids for more 'burp'...then you are fairly close to a J bass bridge pickup.