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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='573328' date='Aug 18 2009, 06:57 PM']I can probably bus up one evening if you are passing town on the way somewhere, give me an excuse to play with your nice basses. And if you wanna play with pedals or something too. I'm trying out for some cheesy thing this weekend and might need a sensible cab.[/quote] Sensible...does that mean NON-DOOM?!

I used a backline provided Trace 4x10 Series 6 Combo on Saturday. Just got to say, I played on one third volume with gain set so it wasnt at all going into the red. It competed against 2 4x12s and a drummer no problem....I was sometimes too loud! Very loud and full clear Trace sound. Weighed a LOT though...good job I wasnt moving it around. Still sometimes miss my old Trace 400W SMX Amp.... Sorry, no idea why I put a thread up about this. How does the new Trace compare to the old?

Amp head wise, get a Shuttle 6.0 or Little Mark 2/3.

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[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='573485' date='Aug 18 2009, 09:07 PM']Doom.[/quote] Full on Doom!

I dont see what the anti-4x10 is about....to me they are very good and extremely capable of a good volume and low end if you buy the right one. 2x12 is also great, but a different sound. 4x10 seems to have a lot more zing and high end....little bit more punch.....

The neck pockets on both my new Fenders are excellent. No problems whatsoever. They have both been looked over by a professional and said to be 'spot on'.

Ive not used my Stingrays for while....until I plugged one into my Mark Mass LM3 and Berg HS410....then and only then did I realise the amazing sound the amp/cab and bass produce. Certain amp/cabs/basses just dont mix, and i've no idea why. I find Stingrays need that massive low end thump to match their cutting mids....which the Mark Bass does in spades. Sorry I cant help with the settings...

[quote name='Beedster' post='571922' date='Aug 17 2009, 06:54 PM']Funny you should ask......... The '09 Fender compares well in the following: Build quality & finishing: Feel & weight Playability and set-up. I can get the same buzz-free low action and intonation on the Fender I got on the Sadowsky It doesn't compare so well on: Sweetness of tone. The Sadowsky just has that little something that it's hard to put your finger on (note that I'm talking passive; I'm not so sure than in active mode the distinction might not be less obvious. I'll be putting a J-Retro in soon so I'll let you know). Its better on: Grunt. It has the potential for a nasty funk tone, even played passively, that I could never get out of the UV70, even in active Looks and authenticity. The UV70 looks like a Fender copy (it is) and was simply too boutique for me Case. The Sadowsky case is good, the Fender case is awesome Up to you whether those differences are worth £1000. I'd say not but then I kept finding that I had a sense of being let down by every top end bass I owned (Modulus, Sadowsky, Status) which I don't have with this bass. Then again, perhaps my expectations were lower and my natural pro-Fender bias has crept in? Chris[/quote] Thanks! Im thinking of maybe just sticking with Fender like you, and trying Sadowskys whenever I see one, not just ordering one on because of their very good name. I like the fact the 09 Fender gives that grunt better! All in all, I want another Jazz in 6 months, and it was going to be a Lakkie or a Sadowsky....but to be fair, I think I might just stick with what I know and spend more on cabs and amps. Ill only be frightened of gigging a really expensive high end bass anyway.

[quote name='Beedster' post='571721' date='Aug 17 2009, 03:54 PM']I've recently picked up an '09 model (maple board). I have, to be honest, been blown away by it. Firstly the build quality is a huge improvement on both recent and vintage Fenders I've owned, it's seriously very close to Sadowsky quality (the neck pretty much stays put in the pocket without the screws and the finishing and playability of the neck are outstanding). I've owned around 20 Fenders, five of which were Custom Shop models, and recently two Sadowskys, so I feel qualified to make the comparison. Secondly the tone seems hugely improved, OK, perhaps a function of the build quality (and possibly materials and High Mass Vintage Bridge), but I can't help thinking the PUPs are improved on previous versions. The slap tone is so good it sounds active. OK. it doesn't have the smoothness of tone of the Sadowsky UV70 I recently owned, but neither did that Sadowsky have the in-yer-face grunt that this bass has. The addition of the Vintage High Mass Bridge no doubt helps although as I've pretty much always installed Badass bridges on my Fenders anyway this is perhaps less of a factor in any direct comparison I'm making here. The neck is slightly chunkier than standard Jazzes, no wider but a little deeper and consequently more solid feeling, in fact, it feels somewhere between a Jazz and a Precision. It's a lovely weight - when I say it's not too light and not too heavy, which is not always helpful, what I'm saying is that it's perfect for me, bearing in mind I let a '69 Jazz go because it was too light for me (I've never got the tone I want from light basses). The finish on the body seems lovely and thin, giving the impression that more of the tone is coming from the wood. It also looks like it's wood and not plastic like so many of the 90's Fenders The only thing I'm troubled by at present is that the new tuners don't hold their tuning anything like as well as those on my vintage basses. This could be a function of the fact that I NEVER have to tune either of those basses - I'm not even sure of the tuners work any more - but I do have to tune the Jazz, so perhaps I've been spoiled? As you can probably guess, I'm mightily impressed - and somewhat reassured - by the bass, reassured because Fender seemed to be becoming a company known for having once made great basses rather than a company who still do. I'm pretty sure the likes or Ernie Ball, Lakland and even Sadowsky, all of whom have perhaps had some mileage out of Fender's poor recent record, will be watching carefully. Chris[/quote] Stealing the thread slightly, but how would you compare the 09 F Jazz to a UV Metro Sadowsky? Worth that extra £1K on retail price?

[quote name='Platypus' post='570015' date='Aug 15 2009, 03:57 PM']Can't see how you could import a Sadowsky Metro form the US for less that the UK shops are quoting. Bass Central sale prices for 4 string Metros range between $2100 and $2600 (this for the UV series) They charge almost £300 shipping then there's import duty and vat to pay [url="http://www.basscentral.com/2003/sadowsky.shtml"]http://www.basscentral.com/2003/sadowsky.shtml[/url][/quote] Direct from Sadowsky themselves is a bit cheaper...esp shipping wise. Im looking into it as I type right now. If its not a huge saving ill go with a UK shop. If its £200+ then US it is Then again Im gassing for so many basses, I dont know if Ill have the money for one!

[quote name='Beedster' post='571721' date='Aug 17 2009, 03:54 PM']I've recently picked up an '09 model (maple board). I have, to be honest, been blown away by it. Firstly the build quality is a huge improvement on both recent and vintage Fenders I've owned, it's seriously very close to Sadowsky quality (the neck pretty much stays put in the pocket without the screws and the finishing and playability of the neck are outstanding). I've owned around 20 Fenders, five of which were Custom Shop models, and recently two Sadowskys, so I feel qualified to make the comparison. Secondly the tone seems hugely improved, OK, perhaps a function of the build quality (and possibly materials and High Mass Vintage Bridge), but I can't help thinking the PUPs are improved on previous versions. The slap tone is so good it sounds active. OK. it doesn't have the smoothness of tone of the Sadowsky UV70 I recently owned, but neither did that Sadowsky have the in-yer-face grunt that this bass has. The addition of the Vintage High Mass Bridge no doubt helps although as I've pretty much always installed Badass bridges on my Fenders anyway this is perhaps less of a factor in any direct comparison I'm making here. The neck is slightly chunkier than standard Jazzes, no wider but a little deeper and consequently more solid feeling, in fact, it feels somewhere between a Jazz and a Precision. It's a lovely weight - when I say it's not too light and not too heavy, which is not always helpful, what I'm saying is that it's perfect for me, bearing in mind I let a '69 Jazz go because it was too light for me (I've never got the tone I want from light basses). The finish on the body seems lovely and thin, giving the impression that more of the tone is coming from the wood. It also looks like it's wood and not plastic like so many of the 90's Fenders The only thing I'm troubled by at present is that the new tuners don't hold their tuning anything like as well as those on my vintage basses. This could be a function of the fact that I NEVER have to tune either of those basses - I'm not even sure of the tuners work any more - but I do have to tune the Jazz, so perhaps I've been spoiled? As you can probably guess, I'm mightily impressed - and somewhat reassured - by the bass, reassured because Fender seemed to be becoming a company known for having once made great basses rather than a company who still do. I'm pretty sure the likes or Ernie Ball, Lakland and even Sadowsky, all of whom have perhaps had some mileage out of Fender's poor recent record, will be watching carefully. Chris[/quote] Chris nailed it right there. I own two new Fenders....after not buying one for a LONG time worrying they would not be QC correctly. After the new series came out, and I saw the reviews, my GAS went sky high. So, I finally got THAT Jazz...and THAT Precision in my collection. My review [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=53990"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=53990[/url] They both really are very good basses. Now I think twice about a Lakland, considering the Fenders have the F passive tone absolutely spot on, have good upgrades, VERY good cases, and are cheaper. Just to aid you...goto Darren @ Bass Merchant. I did, and he sourced me two brand new ones and made sure they were spot on. He also had them set up and checked over. Not only that, his prices were far below anywhere else. He matched the best net deal I could find...and included service with a smile and a few coffees. Highly recommend both new Fenders and Bass Merchant. Now...I am gassing for another Jazz, but I wil probably get a rosewood 4 string USA Fender Jazz instead of jumping ship to a Lakland. Cheers! Gareth

I dont understand how people expect musicians to give up a night, lift gear around, and arrange everything for virtually no money. Im in the same boat.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='571548' date='Aug 17 2009, 12:55 PM']Their singer looks like Matt Berry in that video.[/quote] He looks like Russell Brand as well....!

[quote name='buff' post='570706' date='Aug 16 2009, 03:30 PM']Must admit this is the first time I'd heard TBS, as a band i was in a couple of years ago kept on being compaired to them so i never did check them out. Not what i expected them to sound like. More mainstream that i thought they'd be, but not a panch on someone like rival schools.[/quote] +1....and RSchools have reformed. New album out soon! Walter is a hardcore/post hardcore genius!

[quote name='umcoo' post='570698' date='Aug 16 2009, 03:22 PM']Sudgens just went for £800[/quote] I knew it'd go eventually. Esp considering now they retail for £1300....luckily I got mine just before the price-rise...and the shop was rather frustrated when they realised I already had a written quote from them and they had to honour it. I've barely used mine properly yet. Ive just flightcased it so it always in that...one of those 'live in' type cases. I want to keep it as mint as possible. Only downside is it weighs so much in a case, but you just CANNOT get the same effect from a solid state/hybrid. It comes close, but it doesnt feel right or seem half as powerful. Keep gassin! One will come up....then that Pinkerton bass tone is yours

I have never tried the Genz....but a few people have them on here. Im sure you will get good reviews of both.

Keep lookin for that Orange man....you really wont be disappointed. Im sure there is one on here for a very low price.

Wasnt expecting such a bad response! Never mind ay. I actually dont mind stuff like this, then again I like basically anything. I agree this is in no way real 'emo'...before the commercial side of music got a hold of it emo was quite a dirty and raw type of punk....now its just a joke....its not meant to poppy and easy listening rock. I quite huge fan of more of the early 'emo' or whatever its called; stuff like Appleseed Cast, early Jimmy, Cap N' Jazz, Get Up Kids and the USA Embrace (not the sh*t UK Embrace)....etc etc. TBS are just an alright rock band.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='570076' date='Aug 15 2009, 05:32 PM']:wub:[/quote] Im in the same boat as you....its not a Fender but I bloody love it Me thinks I need to put this on my GAS list.

[quote name='fenderiko' post='570010' date='Aug 15 2009, 03:50 PM']Hi ALL , Wow , big thanks for your detailed response !!! I would love to hear more if possible ! my main worry is that 500W wont be enough for those big gigs ,,, im trying to figure out what would be the best cab solution with out buying too many cabs ,, so for example buying 2x12 of 4ohm would be god enough ? or would i really need to get 2 cabs of 8ohm to get the best result : ) would I be right to think that I need a cab that would be twice the power of the amp ? big thanks again , xRachel[/quote] It depends what type of cabs you are after overall. I love the tone of the AG with the GS and more so the DB Aguilar cabs. They match very well. Perhaps a 4 ohm 2x12 or 2 1x12.

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='570017' date='Aug 15 2009, 03:59 PM']Thought I'd add a couple of pics as this bass has come up for observation of late... It is more of a mushroom creamy white than the stark white it appears in these pics. [/quote] Perfect colours....

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='569945' date='Aug 15 2009, 02:24 PM']I got the Sadowsky by way of a 3 way deal with Chris 'Beedster'. I'm not so sure that it is cheaper than their 'normal' Metro basses; last time I saw one advertised new (and they aren't easy to source) it was only slightly less than the UV which was the most expensive Metro and more expensive than the MV/RV/RS. [/quote] Ah yes, sorry, it just seemed weird that it was $400 or so cheaper than the UV...but I suppose the UV's are fairly high whack money anyway. Ive sent an email to Sadowsky seeing how much they are shipped here......probably dont have enough...but I need to find out! guitarguitar and thomann are selling Sadowskys but the prices are far too high. I think they do sell the Metros direct to overseas customers still. Anyway, enjoy it, a stunning bass. [quote name='wateroftyne' post='569949' date='Aug 15 2009, 02:28 PM']And if you want it, form an orderly queue behind me. [/quote] Hahahhaha...indeed! Its an awesome sounding bass.

[quote name='RhysP' post='569913' date='Aug 15 2009, 01:52 PM']It's a Lakland - you can tell by the shape of the bridge. (That guy has got to be the dweebiest, uncoolest looking bass player I've ever seen. The song was sh*te as well).[/quote] Lol...fair enough. He has done some very interesting work session wise though...excellent chops with his fingers. I hate to say it, but nowadays looking different to the norm is exactly what makes people stand out. Bass high, vintage style bass, playing with fingers like that is kinda 'Arctic Monkeys' but he does it well.