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[quote name='4-string-thing' timestamp='1447258061' post='2906202'] Actually, I was thinking more of a stunt by the band and Pete Way (who originally posted the story on Facebook, [b]then mentioned HIS new album at the end of the post[/b]) But (and this is a big but) as someone once said "any publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right" I just get the feeling there is more to this than meets the eye. [/quote] Yeah, clumsy bit of self promotion - nothing more! IMV

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1447250450' post='2906127'] No one said it was a particularly clever publicity stunt [/quote] That's true!

[quote name='4-string-thing' timestamp='1447248697' post='2906087'] I've also heard a lot worse (including some bands I've played in ) [b]which is what makes me think the whole thing is a publicity stunt.[/b] [/quote] So, the owner/perpetrator is in on it! What's in it for him? Do you think more people will visit his pub knowing that he is not averse to assaulting young women?

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1446981390' post='2903851'] I see the SGs advertise themselves as "Rock Punk post Grunge with pop sensibilities". Something for everyone, then, in the modern little-bit-of-everything-but-not-too much-of-anything world (let's keep it fun for all the family, boyz n' girlz)... [b]They can hardly complain if things get a bit too, er, punk, can they?[/b] BTW, what's this doing on a bass players' site? As far as I can see, neither of the SGs plays bass. [/quote] [quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1447005284' post='2904085'] Good acting is right. Look carefully Woodin. What the hands are doing doesn't match the sounds, especially the guitar. The picking hand is floating just around the bottom E, in a regular pattern and full chords, with rhythmic accents are magically happening. The bass player looks to be using all 4 right hand fingers, but the notes don't match. [/quote] Dan Dare, are you for real?? What the f*** does it matter if these girls were actually playing or not? If the owner has a problem with this type of act (of which there are many), then he should do his research and NOT book them. The guy's a thug! He and his staff should be dealt with accordingly. Oh, and do you suppose the owner would have tried it if they were two 6' 6" hairy a**ed geezers..? Now, that would've been "punk".

I would advise against DIY remedies (unless you are confident of the results). It could give the shop a justifiable reason not to honour the warranty.

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[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1446811535' post='2902511'] McCartney doesn't count. Even if he died today, everything he's ever done has "trite" and "banal" and "cliche-ridden" stamped all over it in 20-foot letters. [b]Iconic? Never was, never will be IMHO[/b] [/quote] Bit like saying, "The Sun... Hot? Never was, never will be IMHO".

Guess I'm the only one that thinks those clip on tuners just look wrong! Tuner built in to my FX board, tuner app on my phone, and same app on my tablet.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1446749811' post='2902089'] I don't think that I wrote exactly what I meant. It would have been better to say that the qualifications are that they were acknowledged as great for their own achievements but were showing signs of disappearing up their own alimentary canal's which would turn people off them. [/quote] Give me someone who is "showing signs of disappearing up their own alimentary canal" anytime, over an artist that stands still, recycling the successful formula over and over. The "alimentary canal" is where you can often find greatness!

Don't mean to be the party pooper here, but... We seem to be defining "intro" as anything that occurs instrumentally before the singing starts! If that's the case, I've got a whole bunch of albums consisting solely of intros

Yep, I'm with chris_b. I'm reminded of an occasion in Germany where I was standing and chatting with Dave Dee (young 'ns can Google him) whilst watching Brian Connolly's Sweet. BC could hardly stand, never mind sing - he was actually very ill! I rather naively said to Dave D, "Why the hell is he putting himself through it?" Dave D replied, "It's either that or the dole!" Too much perspective, perhaps! The BCR have got something that will make them a bit of money. They're not on the dole, they're not mugging old ladies, they're not bankers or lawyers, they are doing doing something that will, hopefully, bring a little bit of joy to a few people.

Doing a gig with Kenny Jones in a couple of weeks and the set includes WGFA. I've been referring to this clip and other examples. It would be too tall an order to learn note for note what JE plays, in any case he clearly never played it the same twice. More important to decide what parts [i]are[/i] important to copy, the "I'll tip my hat" section is in my mind important to get right, and then attempt to understand in a general way what and how he is playing - pentatonic and blues scale phrases abound.

There are those that question the true perpetrators of 9/11. There are those that question the 1969 moon landing. And, as 16 pages show, there are even those that question the profound effect The Beatles had/have on popular music.

I'm currently a guest at Warwick Bass Camp, sitting in a room spending the day with the likes of Abraham Laboriel, Billy Sheehan, Lee Sklar etc, and thinking of this thread, asked them how important they felt The Beatles were to them and music in general? They all looked at me as if I was mad. A Laboriel said, "It all changed with The Beatles". That was pretty much the general consensus.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1441196444' post='2856820'] Very good points. I am thinking that the problem isn't what I thought it was. It is the lack of an arrangement that is the issue. When I do function gigs, I am often presented with a chord chart that says F, Bb, C7 etc and then, occasionally, not always, something like 'Funky', or 'Shuffle'. The band never rehearses but just launches into a version that is based around some sort of shared consensus of what the thing kind of sounds like nearly. I have an idea of the bass part (from a distant recollection of hearing the tune once on a radio or even just on some concept of what 'Funky' or 'Shuffle' means) and everyone else has a nearly but not quite concept of the tune in their own mind. Because the end result is inevitably a poor approximation of the original, it sucks. [/quote] Sorry Bilbo, I'm missing your point! You seem to be saying that bands that don't rehearse and rely on charts only produce "a poor approximation of the original". Quite obviously, the same said band [i]that rehearse[/i] would a make a better fist of things! Are you just saying that the musicians that you're involved with don't rehearse, and that you're not enjoying it for that reason?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1441206354' post='2856931'] [b]1.TBH I would have thought that most of the bass players on here have far more musical talent than me.[/b] [b]2. Also until people started to make a big deal about that part I wouldn't have considered it really important to the song, and so if I was playing it in a band that didn't have a keyboard player I probably wouldn't bother with the part at all.[/b] If you really think it needs to be included perhaps get the singer(s) to do it? [/quote] 1. Quite possibly! Yet they didn't feel the need to call the OP (or other contributors) out on it. 2. That all depends on the policy of the band... maybe their policy is to get as close as possible to the original - In which case, being a significant hook, the vocal tracking the bass is pretty important.. Or, maybe the band do their own interpretation, in which case maybe the da-do-dos wouldn't be so important.

Hows about actually singing the da-do-do, da-do-do's yourself? Shouldn't be too difficult, and (in theory) should be as tight as f***. Even if your voice isn't great, providing you step forward, do it confidence, and with a big smile on your face... punters can be very forgiving. Hey, maybe even get the audience to sing the part with/for you. Nowt wrong with a bit of audience participation. They'll love you for it. [quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1441115400' post='2856131'] know what you are saying, but i just play it with no effects. P bass. Ive had no complaints. People definitely know what it is as soon as i play the main lick. Crowd only really care about the vocals anyway dont they?? [/quote]Ooh, controversial! I think in this case the da-do-do vocal sample tracking the bass is an important hook of the song.

There's probably all sorts of the normal, and not-so normal, studio jiggery pokery going on with the bass. However, the overiding audible effect, is the [i]"da-do-do, da-do-do" [/i]vocal tracking the bass - difficult to emulate from an FX unit. I used to have a Boss board that had vocal vowel fx - if yours has that feature, maybe give that a go.

Hazel O'Connor's little known 1981 cover of Lou Reed's [i]Men of Good Fortune [/i]has several basses: 2 simple contrasting basses in the verse, and instrumental sections that feature multi tracked basses. I'm not sure that they really helped the track

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1439653624' post='2844714'] Do you have to play "Rhythm Stick" in a gigging band? If not then why beat yourself up over not playing it properly? [/quote] [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1439658157' post='2844771'] Find something else to play, move on and come back to it in a few months. [/quote] I've always lived my musical life by the philosophy, "nothing will beat me". IMV Twincam is right to agonise over it, he wants to be a "well rounded" musician. Stick with it Twincam, ambient's idea to break the bass line up into shorter segments is good. Start at a slow tempo and gradually increase. It may take several weeks to get it sounding anything like slick, but as you practice and generally improve your chops, so will your rendition of "Rhythm Stick".

My guess? It's either an attempt at dampening the open string to sound more like a fretted note, or to prevent the part of the string behind the fretted note from buzzing. Either way - bordering on the neurotic IMV

[quote name='Slipperydick' timestamp='1439054490' post='2839701'] Whether it was [b]great marketing or luck[/b], there was something for everyone on Beatles LPs. Yellow Submarine, When I'm 64 etc. [/quote] I think you may have ommited something... oh yeah... the hugest dollop of talent!

Slag off arguably the most important album of the last 50 years - mention the new album out in September - Job done! I don't believe for one second that Keef actually thinks that.

[quote name='MarkW' timestamp='1438727725' post='2836811'] I must admit I have never been able to stand Cilla Black's voice, and have often used the fact that my father-in-law thinks she's fantastic as the absolute benchmark of his abject lack of musicality. Seriously, I've heard more melodious noises when I've trodden on the cat. [/quote] Shame, that in a thread titled "Cilla Black RIP" you felt the need to post the above! [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1438729149' post='2836822'] "Slipped and died love" ? [/quote] Disappointing! RIP Cilla

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