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[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1455574146' post='2980444'] Blue, if it's so huge and diverse why do you keep accusing people of not getting it and at the same time claim that only certain people who were there can get it? It makes no sense.[/quote] I have never been accusatory. I have merely given my opinions. But good point none the less. At this point in time I guess I don't care who gets it or doesn't get it. Blue

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1455564297' post='2980287'] Yes They stood on a stage and sang, then they sat in a studio and sang. [/quote] My ears heard more than just singing. My eyes saw a lot more than a band Very few can't stand in their shoes. Good luck Freddy Blue

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1455570489' post='2980389'] Can't remember the exact year but I think it was possibly on the back of Wings' success around 1977/78(??) that the entire Beatles 7" catalogue was re-released in batches, in pseudo reproduction pic covers. Many of them hit high in the charts, I remember buying "Get Back" and one other, I forget which. They did little for me but my brother was hooked (too young to remember any of it 1st time around) and went on to become a Beatles expert, with links to some of the members. [/quote] Cool story.😊 Blue

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1455579021' post='2980488'] Come on! Now you're being plain daft - rock and roll, even with the Beatles' undoubted contribution, is just one narrow aspect of the wide range of artistic endeavours. Look, I get The Beatles. I've got all their albums. I listen to them regularly. I agree they had a massive impact on rock & roll and have been hugely influential. But they are most certainly not the be all and end all of musical innovation, never mind wider artistic innovation. All I'm saying is try to keep things in perspective. Perhaps it's a cultural thing [/quote] I never said they were the be all and end all of music innovation. But now that you mention it, they we're and are certainly high standing members of that club. Blue

[quote name='Wonky2' timestamp='1455583109' post='2980509'] Their diversity and continual evolution is what kept them contempory. They started as a rock n roll covers band and quickly progressed ,marketed as a boy band playing pop music, progressing on to the likes of peper, revolver, abbey road, tracks like helter skelter, i want you shes so heavy, blue jay way , mother natures son...all a millionmiles apart, all crafted works.... I suppose its important to look at what else was going on musically at the time as there was alot of equally great music, but not so many with such consitancy in quality and most influenced by the ground the beatles had laid down before them.... Not the be all and end all, not compulsory, but undeniably good... Rock n roll..... To start with, but so much more before the end..... Maybe im biased, my mum knew mcartney well growing up in the next street to him..... But ask her, she preferred the stones [/quote] I like this post, it just makes sense. Blue

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1455574430' post='2980447'] I think maybe you don't understand the English ... which means you don't understand The Beatles. Listen to Lennon: God is a Concept by which we measure our pain I'll say it again God is a Concept by which we measure our pain I don't believe in magic I don't believe in I-ching I don't believe in Bible I don't believe in Tarot I don't believe in Hitler I don't believe in Jesus I don't believe in Kennedy I don't believe in Buddha I don't believe in Mantra I don't believe in Gita I don't believe in Yoga I don't believe in Kings I don't believe in Elvis I don't believe in Zimmerman [b]I don't believe in Beatles[/b] I just believe in me, Yoko and me, and that's reality The dream is over What can I say? The dream is over Yesterday I was the dreamweaver But now I'm reborn I was the walrus But now I'm John And so, dear friends, You'll just have to carry on The dream is over [/quote] Rubbish Blue

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1455569938' post='2980381'] Yeah - but you gave us Stax and Motown - your job is done! [/quote] Yeah, pretty cool. Blue

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1455564297' post='2980287'] Yes They stood on a stage and sang, then they sat in a studio and sang. They didn't invent a cure for cancer or instigate world peace. They were just a band. Even John Lennon himself said so. [/quote] That was just John being humble and polite. Blue

[quote name='rushbo' timestamp='1455567652' post='2980341'] Blue (and any other concerned parties) can rest safely in their beds, knowing that The Young People still like the Fabs. I've been in Music and Media education for 17 years and of all the kids I've taught, by far the most popular band was The Beatles. Of course, they still enjoy contemporary music, but Beatles music and legacy has a really appealing and enduring quality. I am incredibly biased as I am a massive Beatles fan - I've always tried not to brainwash my pupils, but sooner or later, those students with even just a passing interest in the contextual history of Popular music will find themselves drawn to those lovable moptops. In the early-mid seventies, during the "Beatles Hangover", most of the world was over the Beatles - after seven pretty intense years everyone needed a break. It took Lennon's murder to jolt them back into the public eye and when the "Anthology" series came out in the 90's the Beatlemania industry was fully established. Liverpool should be proud of The Beatles - they changed Pop Culture forever. You may feel it's overkill or exploitation, but almost every town, city or country has it's own tourist industry and the "official" Beatles stuff - The museum, the "Magical Mystery Tour", the National Trust houses, the Beatles convention are done superbly well. It's there if you want it. It's not compulsory. [/quote] I'm going to make it to Liverpool someday one way or the other. And when I get there I'm going to kiss the ground. Blue

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1455564097' post='2980283'] It's called "the grass is greener on the other side" Blue, I'm sure the americans laugh at us limeys lapping up cowboy and indian novelties made in Thailand just the same? [/quote] Am I missing something or are you really saying The Beatles legacy is the same as novelties made in Thailand? Blue

[quote name='Freddy Le Cragg' timestamp='1455564297' post='2980287'] Yes They stood on a stage and sang, then they sat in a studio and sang. They didn't invent a cure for cancer or instigate world peace. They were just a band. Even John Lennon himself said so. [/quote] Well they were a lot more than a band to me. I still don't get the negativity and the dumbing down of their place in history on bass chat. Sad as far as I'm concerned. Blue

It's official; BC is really convincing me the whole Beatle thing has always been bigger and more important to us baby boomer yanks than the English. With all the negativity I can't help but wonder if The Beatles did something to the English I don't know about? Blue

The Rolling Stones Live Always the same,top notch. Blue

I don't like the clip ons. I'm big into cool vintage bass guitars and their stage presence. The Clip Ons can ruin the integrity of the headstock. Just looks goofy to ne. Blue

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1455356029' post='2978346'] I've always wondered how old you are... You've never mentioned it before. [/quote] There are new members that might not know my age. Age is a factor in many BC discussions. I wish more members would include their age in their posts and threads. Blue

Been playing in bands since 1966. While I describe myself as a " 70s New York Style" bass player, I'm still listening and learning new stuff. In my opinion if your listening and learning your modern. Blue

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1455530581' post='2979814'] (grin) 71 and retired a few years back from pro playing. I now have a fender copy of my original 62 precision because I can finally afford a decent instrument again, playing through a modern lightweight amp and cabinet because I couldn`t lift the old rig into the back of my estate car any more. Gig so irregularly these days I actually wound up with two blisters on my first and middle finger, right hand Saturday night. DId I mention I had to give up all dairy foods because my voice crapped out after years of abuse? Saturday night was also the first time of singing in earnest for eight months... sore throat hurt like hell Sunday morning. Am I a modern player? Hell NO! Do I still enjoy it? Hell YES! [/quote] You see, this is the kind of post I love. Listening to guys that "get it" Blue

Checked out your video clip. As you know, I never comment on clips unless I have something nice to say. Loved the clip and the vibe of your trio. Nice job! Blue

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1455526473' post='2979733'] As I said, I count myself as a Beatles fan and certainly accept they were, and are, hugely influential. But Dad's post is an excellent reminder that the arts are gloriously wide and diverse and, for my money, anyone who latches onto one artist or band as 'a way of life' is seriously depriving themselves with such a narrow outlook. It's also a recipe for artistic stagnation. [/quote] 4 string, it's not narrow, it's huge and diverse. My Beatles ideology is a recipe for pushing the envelop and unlimited expansion not stagnation. Blue

Time period and location is crucial. I started playing bass guitar in 1966 with my first band. I grew up in a medium size town in New Jersey of about 35,000 and about 15 mins outside of New York City. Everybody was in a band, and everyone wanted to get really good.So many kids were playing after they saw The Beatles in 1964, if you wanted to be in band you could find one very easily. Blue

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1455493524' post='2979650'] I count myself as a Beatles fan, though Liverpool is one of the few cities in the UK I've never visited. I stayed in the Amsterdam Hilton once and noticed that the next door room had a brass plaque on the door stating that it was the room in which John & Yoko staged their 'bed in' for world peace (or something similar). I'm a bit too young to have seen the Fabs in concert but from the films I've seen they weren't great musical experiences so I don't feel I missed much. [/quote] You missed the biggest part of rock & roll history there is. And the band that laid the foundation for all subsequent bands. You have to understand The Beatles were a way of life. I feel so sorry for folks that are too young to understand The Beatles and that time period. Blue

I poo pooped the whole thing until I watched Brunos clip. Even though no one was actually playing live, I have to give it to Bruno for his ability to capture that 70s funk groove. If you were listening they through in 8 bars of James Brown's "Super Bad" Blue

[quote name='Fitz666' timestamp='1455094086' post='2975714'] The Metalica gig from the night before "too heavy for halftime" was soooo much better.... Enjoyed the game as well. [/quote] Better, how can you say better? The genres are completely different. I think you mean you like metal better than pop. Blue

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1455382179' post='2978674'] Sorry but I massively disagree. I nearly quit 6 months after first starting bass. I had lessons for a few weeks and then my teacher broke his back... I lost interest and became bored of the instrument. Fortunately, I got put in touch with a new teacher who was great and really inspired me to play better. The last 15 years have been a blast. [/quote] You took a break, you didn't quit. If anything you were only temporarily out of it. I say, if you don't like rock and roll or people the whole band thing won't be much fun. And while I still maintain it's a business, if your not having fun, get out. Blue

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1455457042' post='2979216'] I would disagree, especially in bands where you have to travel and spend a lot of time with other musicians and have a pretty direct relationship with your audience. It might be different for film actors, but the same definitely applies to the theatre. I know a very good drummer locally with a decent CV who no one will play with any more, basically because he is a bit of a sociopath. People have put up with him for so long because he's good, but now people have had enough and no one will touch him. [/quote] I mean ,it's why I love it. I love interacting with people during breaks.I especially like meeting new couples that come to our gigs. I introduce myself, thank them for coming and sticking around. I also ask how they found out about the band and get them on our mailing list. Remember, as I always say, "It's a business" We don't play university frat houses. We play 70s rock and blues to the 60 plus crowd whose heavy drinking days have been long gone. Blue