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[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1485175867' post='3221741'] Nice to see you open to discussion as always Blue. [/quote] Actually, I'm always open to discussion and my mind and positions can be changed if someone has a strong argument. For example, I'm learning that the young kids taste in music in the UK might be different than the kids over here in the States. Blue

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1485178737' post='3221778'] Anyway. Back on topic. You may enjoy this one too Blue. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSDSand-6IY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSDSand-6IY[/url] Gene Vincent on UK tour 1969. Touching, sometimes funy and other times quite sad documentary. The Teddy Boy thing was quite big until the late 70s I would say. Then there was a Rockabilly revival as it was fading out. [/quote] I will definitely check it out. Blue

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1485177874' post='3221764'] Just had a look Blue, Aerosmith are the headline act for the last night this year, kids into rock and older bands are not just the exception at all. Approx 110 thousand people over three days. [/quote] Bands like Aerosmith, Macca and The Stones are exceptions Young kids will go to those shows because it's a huge pop scene. You won't convince me they are hard core fans. Blue

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1485177708' post='3221761'] I'm thinking the kids in Milwaukee are different to the ones here? Bands like Sabbath and maiden are still a big deal here to younger fans, concerts like Download Festival are mainly frequented by younger folks afaik. [/quote] You might have a point. In Milwaukee the kids are listening to electronic stuff, Bruno Mars, Ga Ga and Hip Hop. The young hipsters are listening to all sorts of Indie bands. They are not listening to 70s Rock. Blue

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1485176103' post='3221745'] My kids love Led Zep and are massively jealous that I got to see them play live, and are certainly not the exception amongst their peer group. [/quote] Then your kids and their imediate peers are all exceptions. Unless kids are completely different in the UK. Generally speaking young kids are not nto Led Zeppelin Blue

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1485162899' post='3221551'] Malcolm McLaren made a few bob on his Rock n Roll stall flogging t shirts. Superfan Jesus (he wore Jesus sandals) who is pictured grooving to the MC5 was at loads of the punk gigsI went to in the late 70s. Here's some nice background about the event. http://www.paulgormanis.com/?p=10612 [/quote] Nice article, and concert promotion poster. Blue

It's not easy to find people to play with and it depends on what your looking for. I've been lucky enough to be in a gigging bar band for the past 5 years. We play between 60-65 shows a year. If I was looking for guys to play with it would be extremely tough as I am only interested in playing for $$$.But, I have done a few charities. Blue

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1485123628' post='3221424'] Bizarrely Wilko Johnson & the Feelgoods were the backing band for Heinz. [/quote] Ok, cool. Someone tell me a little about Heinz. Blue

[quote name='Raymondo' timestamp='1485122068' post='3221411'] In 1972 I was fifteen and wouldn't have wanted to go and see that concert if you paid me ...I was into Budgie,Led Zepplin,Black Sabbath alongside Bowie,T.rex and the glam rock stuff. I realise that Rock and Roll was tremendously important In the way music developed.....I did see Chuck Berry at Buxton....but it was "old music" to me and I wasn't interested. [/quote] This thread really wasn't intended to generate anyone's interest or approval. It was really about my observation of how serious kids in the UK took rock & roll. The headliners here had careers that had peaked long before 1972. That music was before my time also. I just happen to have a keen interest in rock & roll history. Yes that era of rock & roll was tremendously important. Looking at Little Richard in this film tells me at some level his appearance and costumes had some influence on glam rock. Every generation has their shot. Do you know what Led Zepplin is to teens today? " Old People's music or referred to as music my parents or in some cases my grandparents listened to.They have no real interest in it. Now, someone here will debate me and say, " my kids love Led Zeppelin" If they do, they are the exception. Blue

Little Richard was, well, simply put "One Step Beyond Outrageous" Blue

I'm fascinated with this concert film. https://youtu.be/i_0l1zxNeKg I was a Senior in High School in 1972. My take away is how serious you guys take Rock & Roll. Obviously a good thing IMO. I am not sure why. It might be because at the time we took it for granted and it was harder for you guys to access. It looked like such a cool show and must have been a lot of fun. It also looked like an event where you could get in trouble. I wish I could have been there. You can get the point of the movie from the first few minutes in the opening scene. Comments please. Blue

Live rock music whether pubs or larger venues. Look at the audience in footage from rock shows from the 60s & 70s. A much more gender diverse crowd. Lots of women at those shows, it was great. Now it's mostly dudes. Blue

If he's serious, and only you know that, take the plunge and buy him something nice that he will appreciate and take care of. An American Standard Jazz or P would be nice. He'll grow into it. Blue

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1484929105' post='3219823'] Nope.... bands saying yes to these gigs.... I was agreeing with you [/quote] Thanks understood It's a tough call and several different circumstances and ways of looking at it. Blue

[quote name='josie' timestamp='1484870432' post='3219380'] For my 60th birthday party I organised a charity concert for an excellent local special needs school. I hired the Garrick Theatre in Stockport, Kyla Brox opened and Virgil & the Accelerators headlined. All three asked for half normal price, which I was happy to pay. Musicians, venue staff, family and friends all had loads of free food and a tab at the bar. Punters bought tickets and heard great music. I got sponsorship for most of the expenses and sent every possible penny to the charity. Everyone was happy. The musicians thanked me for how well I had looked after them, but it seemed to me just what one should do. Musicians are important and should be looked after well. Especially as guys of that caliber were doing me a favour by coming at all. let alone at half price. [/quote] That's cool, I've seen some questionable events where the organizers want bands to play for free and then go out of their way to make things difficult for the bands. Blue

Here's another part of charities I take issue with. The headlining band gets paid but not the local support bands. Now I've played no pay charity gigs, however it was because little to no travel involved, the chance to play to a large crowd on a large stage with big lights and sound. And the fact that it's fun. I never got into buying into the "exposure" BS. We know what we are, a regional bar band. Blue

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1484859301' post='3219246'] .....and there's the problem. [/quote] What's the problem, bands saying no? Bands not willing to say no? Blue

I've been gigging my G&L ASAT bass with active pre-amp lately. I really like it, solid and quiet. I had one if those a active Fender Jags, noisy as hell. I got rid of it. Blue

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1484845023' post='3219047'] I'm often baffled by the fact that they pay a 17 year old to collect the dirty glasses, but expect a highly trained and competent musician to work for nothing. Note the use of the word work, because that's exactly what you're doing, working. [/quote] If enough bands start saying no, these events will start paying musicians. Blue

I think the band that would have the most difficulty are those losing an outstanding exceptional drummer. Blue

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1484612604' post='3216920'] Find out how much the charity gets out of this. I would not be surprised if their percentage was lower than the promoters! Edit: I'd pass and give your money directly to the charity. [/quote] Unfortunately this is a valid approach. Charity events are like anything else some are on the up and up and some are questionable. Get a therough understanding on how the event is organized and managed. In some cases it's only musicians that are donating their services for free. I can only speak for US charities and benefits. Blue

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1484751240' post='3218085'] I am actually looking for a drummer, and have an ad up on here. Whilst looking through Gumtree for a suitable drummer i came across a guy who was just getting back in to drummer after a few years break. Sounded ok, fairly local and seemed to know whats what. Then i noticed his ad said he had cymbals and should have the drums soon. I didnt bother contacting him. [/quote] I wouldn't have contacted him either. Cymbals and no drums,raises too many red flags. I wouldn't start making inquiries until I owned a proper kit. Bass player available. I have strings, will have a bass soon? Blue

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1357768207' post='1928230'] I've owned a standard Squier Jazz made in Indonesia in 2001, a Japanese Squier Jazz bass made in 1994, A Geddy Lee Fender Jazz Bass made in Japan in 2004, and a 62 reissue Fender Jazz bass also made in Japan in 1996. Both the Squiers were the equal of the Fenders in feel and sound. And there wasn't much between them when you compared quality of construction. These days most Squiers and Fenders are made with computerised lathes, so you can make them anywhere in the world you can transport your machinery. The biggest difference is price and that is down to labour costs - you can pay a worker in Indonesia or China a lot less than you would in Japan or the States. [/quote] You can't lose with MIJ Fender or Squires are both cool. Blue

I have a pair of real Beatle Boots.Black with Cuban heels. Only worn once.😀 Blue

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1484682692' post='3217506'] May be worth stipulating that applicants must have good quality kit, then [/quote] That's not a bad idea, however it's a bullet point that I would make an exception on. Blue