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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1449498386' post='2924043'] Don't listen to Jaco in isolation, but in context. Here's a few; there's much, much more... Jaco Pastorius – bass on "Coyote", "Hejira", "Black Crow", and "Refuge of the Roads" (... [i]but the other tracks are ace, too..![/i]) 1. 0:00 - Coyote 2. 05:01 - Amelia 3. 11:02 - Furry Sings The Blues 4. 16:09 - A Strange Boy 5. 20:28 - Hejira 6. 27:09 - Song For Sharon 7. 35:47 - Black Crow 8. 40:10 - Blue Motel Room 9. 45:14 - Refuge Of The Roads [media]http://youtu.be/6If65D_DXS4[/media] Don't listen to the bass; listen to the music. [/quote]You just stole my thunder! Jaco's best bass parts were on Joni's stuff; Hejira, Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, Mingus and especially the live Shadow's and Light - particularly the achingly beautiful reworked run out to Hejira.

A reunion would be very lucrative I'd imagine - especially for Ticketshysters! Anyone else spot the pic with Neil Sedaka that they re-used later in the program with him airbrushed out?

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1449500542' post='2924093'] The way ES refers to GG as Gouldman and not Graham seemed to indicate an undercurrent of tension. I liked the program, I learnt some stuff and it was good to reconnect with 10cc after many years. Back when I had vinyl, one of the best albums I had was their, Live and Let Live; stunning. [/quote]Yes I thought not referring to him as Graham was poor regardless of any bad blood. I know Gouldman now tours as 10cc as the only original member.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1449480327' post='2923762'] My point is that his bass work isn't current now and neither are his songs. Some people would say he never did anything after the Beatles.. I'd agree. Respect him for his valid output..but I reckon that stopped in 1969.. Nothing wrong with that and he has a body of work that will last for many many more years but things move on. Would you go and see him now..? or put on his Beatles records.. or neither? [/quote]I'd say this post isn't current or valid.

[quote name='Matt P' timestamp='1449508268' post='2924180'] I'm wondering how much he paid for it? either he bought it for peanuts and wants to make a huge profit or he actually paid many hundreds for it and is now trying not to lose all his money, I think it's worth 150 quid tops and that's mainly for comedy value, unless he finds some poor sucker that's taken in by his sales banter then he's stuck with it forever. if we do end clubbing together to this then I'm in for £20 provided that it ends up in flames (with a youtube video for proof) it would be worth it to never see it again Matt [/quote]Yeah but he might be making them!

[quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1449168831' post='2921299'] I need one! Second year with no gig in the diary yet. I'd much rather be gigging than sitting at home watching Jools Holland. [/quote]They'll be recording the Hootananny around now

[quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1449339511' post='2922772'] In this case there is no charge on the door. We will get a cut from the bar profits however, but I think we can expect to go in and make a (smallsih) loss. [/quote]Not that old 'cut of the bar profits' gag

I like that.

I like Sometimes - great bassline and lovely octave underneath them. I believe he played on the early Jamiroquai albums.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1449326113' post='2922646'] You might wish to listen to the new Steven Wilson remix - out both in stereo and in surround 5.1, IMS. By large his remixes get rave reviews, and fans report they finally can hear everything. Google will tell whether that goes for Relayer as well. AFAIK, he's done several albums by each of the following: - Gentle Giant, - Jethro Tull, - King Crimson. - XTC, - Yes. [/quote]That's interesting. Fragile had an excellent eq but certainly TFTO was dreadful - like listening through a sock draw with no dynamics. And Fish Out of Water was as bad.

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1449317077' post='2922505'] With respect, that's absolute rubbish. Nobody does everything well. If that's what you're saying, I think the possibility of seeing him try to solo like Stu Hamm or play in a progressive band like Tool, or slap like Mark King would be enough to dispel the thought that he can do everything well as I'd imagine it'd be a bit car crash. He does several things in the terms of playing well like most of us. But nobody, does everything "well." Not McCartney, Pastorious, Clarke, Jamerson, Entwistle, King or any other iconic bass player you can name can do everything well. They have their niche areas in which they excel (or not dependent on whether you like their style or even their music), but nobody is all things. McCartney isn't any different in that respect. I happen to like his playing, before anyone asks. [/quote]Who the f%&k is Stu Hamm? McCartney never needed to play like him, he was busy writing and performing some of the most iconic music of all time. In the records of a hundred years hence I doubt Stu Hamm will feature. Get a grip!

[quote name='rk7' timestamp='1449318272' post='2922527'] Silly Love Songs! Epic, one of my faves. thank you please Rk [/quote]+1 - a joyous bass line, and dead easy to play too - unless you're singing over the top of it!

Well done for posting this. Nice to see a documentary respectfully getting the facts right. And I absolutely love 10cc!

Yes, Nous Sommes du Soleil, where it builds in semitones and then fades to bass, Mellotron and guitar.

[quote name='BassBus' timestamp='1449401216' post='2923136'] As soon as I read the title of this thread one song came to mind, Steve Hackett's Shadow of the Heirophant. All the more poignant that he is still alive and able to play it. [media]http://youtu.be/6SEgJtq2JjU[/media] [/quote]You sir, have taste!

Maybe it's all just self perpetuating, his raison detre?

[quote name='FlatEric' timestamp='1449232849' post='2921783'] This has been interesting reading! Two for me. Sabbath (big fan) late 70's, just dreadful!!!!!!!! The Bonus - Van Halen were the support! They had only done a few gigs in the UK - Bar was full, Eddy struck up - Bar emptied VERY QUICKLY! What a mistake putting them on - poor old Sabbath were not in the same league. Ozzy - Hic! Bill fell of his stool. Not good. Thin Lizzy (massive fan - saw them in the 70's) when Scott was the only original member, Rock City. Just truly awful! There seemed to be a lot of people on stage, the drummer thought he was Animal, from the Muppets, The whole thing was just too busy and to make things worse a couple of "I hope you are up there and you are enjoying this Phil" What??? Really glad to get out of the place!! There, rant over. [/quote]Pleased to hear Lizzy (sic) fell on their arses - Lizzy with only one 'classic' member and it ain't Phil?

[quote name='Bigjas' timestamp='1449222399' post='2921623'] It was really strange Ubit, Kelly picked this person out in the crowd and was making a big deal out of it. Obviously having a bad day? I can't see the problem with taking pictures. Jas [/quote]Short person syndrome

Driving home from work in the gloom today and I put on The Gates of Delirium; chords, almost dissonant notes and the whole Chris Squire kitchen sink, but at no point did it sound over the top. We all respect him as a bass player, but it made me realize what an awesome musician he was; dropping superb bass lines into stuff his virtuoso bandmates were doing.

Right all you eBay hawks, joking apart, WTF is going on with this sale? A piece of crap at a ridiculous price. Apart from the guy actually being mental, is there some kind of fiddle going on?* *No 15-string fiddle jokes please.

It was nice to see Ian Paice in Macca's band (along with David Gilmour) many years ago.

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1448787995' post='2918059'] I am a massive fan of their early stuff. MkII was the lineup I favoured although I didn't ever see them live then. For my money Gillan's voice was the best of the bunch in the early 70s and 'Made In Japan' (the gold one) remains one of my favourite albums to this day. I saw them live for the first time on the 'Burn' tour - Coverdale and Hughes weren't so bad either but I always thought there was something magical about the chemistry of mkII. Saw them again in the early Morse years by which time Gillan's voice was completely shot to pieces. They also, rather churlishly imo, left out all the stuff from the years when Gillan was absent. Having said that I think 'Ted The Mechanic' is a very strong song and Blackmore couldn't have touched that. [/quote]My introduction to Purple was via Mk.II; Made in Japan, Machine Head, Who Do We Think We Are (quite underrated), but I only saw them on the Burn tour and they were blinding. Sadly it wasn't to last.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1448809836' post='2918285'] You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time... [/quote]I think he's a genius but that's a very valid point.

Genesis Archives 67-75.* Genesis Archives 75-92 - I'd use Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance hung up to scare birds off my small plantation.* Joni Mitchell - The Hissing of Summer Lawns. A-ha - Scoundrel Days. Led Zeppelin II. Level 42 - World Machine. Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings. David Bowie - Let's Dance. Lord of the Flies - great book and very appropriate. A tooth brush. *Yes I know it's cheating.

I like the half fretless concept.