Which is why I actually pay attention to this thread, when the moaners start moaning about an act I start listening exactly because they all sound like my Dad who moaned about Bowie, Roxy Music, Sparks in particular and M with Pop Muzik. Naturally he hated anything punk. What in particular set me off on this relationship with this thread was the negative reaction to The Good, The Bad & The Queen after their appearance on Jools Holland, I didn’t pay that much attention when they were on but all the negativity made me watch again, loved it. As far as I’m concerned all the ‘they can’t play/sing/ it’s a racket/lift music/noise’ grouchy Dad brigade can keep the moans coming, one of the better indicators of quality in my book.