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The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
No, not a silent stage. I originally set this up as i was feeding the mic in to my personal mixer, so it was just for me. I couldn’t get a mic off our main desk to my IEMs at the time, so only had strange sound and my keys in it. Back then we had 3 floor monitors so the ambient mic picked up enough of the stage sound. When we got the XR18 i stopped using my mixer and use the mic through the xr18 going to Aux only. Two other band members now use IEM so they also share the ambient mic, but we also have two floor monitors for the luddites that don’t get the ambient mic. Now the ambient is just for drums (minus the kick) and that comes from a small Roland recorder that’s fed to the XR18 as a stereo signal. -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
Tell the drummer to listen and not talk 😂 A couple of mics or a small recorder places on stage, only going to the monitors will work, but im sure the vocal mics will pick most of the chatter up on smaller stages. -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
No, just on all the time. I didn’t get it for talking, but to make me feel more like I’m in the room without the isolation feeling. Most of the time i get enough talking through the vocal Mics so i can hear what people are saying. This was purely for ambient noise. i don’t use it anymore as everyone now goes through the mixer, other than drums, and that’s picked up with my digital recorder placed in front of them. I guess that’s now the ambient part of the set up. Now I’m used to IEM’s i don’t get that isolated feeling anymore. -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
I was using the Behringer B-5 for a while. This worked really well. You can’t also get the C-2 which are smaller, as a pair for about the same price if you want stereo or to use either side of the stage. -
Yeah, obviously made at a much smaller budget than the ones they copy.
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Thats the exact one we have. Been very reliable.
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My drummer uses one of those as his floor monitor (won’t use IEM’s). It sounds very powerful but not as clear as my Yamaha DBX12 (which i don’t use anymore). Both are more than good enough for this job though, as ok has you don’t push them too hard. While some will hate the idea of a Behringer mixer being mentioned, they are very good value. My old band brought one in 2011 and my current band was using up to last year without it ever failing or having issues.
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It’s very easy to get caught up in the gear obsession on here and other forums. There is always a lot of good advice, but people that have progressed to a higher level seem to find it hard to put themselves in someone else’s shoes and can’t think at a lower level. I’m sure we have all gigged with bare minimum in our lives, and see bands still doing that even now. It’s a tried and tested way of doing things if you're on a budget or don’t want all the extra cost and complications that come with getting more advanced gear. No band needs a digital desk like the XR18 etc, even though it’s a real eye opener when you do get something like this. But we all survived well enough before they came along. Personally yeah, I’d never want to go back to an old style desk if i was in charge of the band, but having done well over 1000 gigs with nothing more than a small desk for vocals/kick and a bit of bass (before moving to keys and needing a better system) i can see that it’s not essential to go for a more advanced set up. A couple of mid range powered speakers and a no frills desk will do well enough.
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Gigged almost every weekend for 15 years like this. Never did us any harm. Im sure we could have sounded better if we had all gone through the PA, but you don’t get that many repeat booking and glowing reviews if you sound crap.
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EXACTLY what i have to do all the time. Our bassist tends to use the volume knob on his bass to go quieter and very often forgets to turn back up (doesn’t grasp the use less force in your fingers technique). Very frustrating, but these days i monitor his level on the mixer and will turn him up FOH if i feel he has dropped too low (plus the on stage level will go down as an indication)
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Yeah, i get that. I have a full mix in my IEM’s and do quite often need to ride a guitar fader or two. I also have an iPad with Mixing Station sitting on my keyboard so i can keep an eye on things, but its more things that i don’t need to be worried about. Ive been on and on at them for a couple of years to try and sort their levles out, but its still not even enough for me to not worry about it.
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I’ve finally got all my band to all go in to the mixer (other than most of the drums). This was mainly for those of us using IEM’s. When i played bass i always went through the PA for more dispersion, especially in a packed room. I have run the band through our PA a couple of times and it sounded really good, but those were just me experimenting at sound check. My worry is that my guitarists have a habit of turning up during the gig, and with no one out front keeping our mix in check i can imagine the guitars through the Pa could get overwhelming. It’s bad enough the on stage levels going up. I’m working on it, but it’s a work in progress.
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The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
My guitarist brought my Lekato’s off me and has no issues so far (that i can tell). With 3 of us using the 2.4 band we did find that the singers Xvive needed to use a different channel as she said hers had cut out a couple of times, but things seem to be working well so far. I’m always a bit sceptical when they say ‘no issues’ as they are the type of people that would probably not notice a drop out if they had one, but as long as they don’t pipe up it’s all good. I just saw that UR have a new line of universal fit IEM’s. Prices seem reasonable i guess. -
Zoom H series with 32bit float. Now in the UK
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Accessories and Misc
Those are the 3 things that will make me want the new H4 over the old H5. -
Ive been researching getting a H5 or H6 over the past few days, mainly to use as an ambient mic on stage and to use close to the drums so i get a decent recording of them. Pretty much decided on the H5 and then i saw these new ones. All the new range have 32 bit float and the new H5 has a much nicer screen. Also BT controlled. Quite ugly looking though (IMO). Still not convinced i shouldn't get the old H5, but might wait and see how these do in reviews.
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Have you tried smaller IEM’s? I was in the same position as you last year. Not a song when buy where i wasn't find doing with my right ear. I just couldn't get it to stay in snugly. I have very flat ears. I tried a pair of Sennheiser IE100 Pros and couldn't believe how snug they were. I still used memory foam tips as i dont like the other types, but i can easily get through a gig or 4 hour rehearsal without having to touch them. I upgraded to IE400’s as they have a bit more body to them, but i have no itch to go custom anymore……well, not this week lol.
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Do you subscribe to any Bass magazines?
dave_bass5 replied to MikeTheMisfit's topic in General Discussion
I don even subscribe to the bass playing ethos 😂 -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
I also prefer X-Air, but can only run it reliably on the old ipad. Saying that ive not really spent much time with X-Air, and while i still struggle with MS, its been rock solid. Id probably want it on as a back up, but dont want to buy another license. I do have a second Apple ID that i just use to link work and my main one, so i could use that. The main issue with the old ipad is length of time the battery lasts. It can last a gig but i dont want to be worrying about it (and dont want to be thinking about having to keep it charged etc). Both my ipads have headphone jacks, so i run one or the other in to 17/18m for music, but i do have a stereo BT receiver as well that i can use. I also use my iPad Pro with Logic on it to record the gigs, so thats something else ii have to keep an eye on. -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
Yeah, the thing putting me off is i dont really want yet another tablet, and im so ysed to ipads. I also have an old iPad Air gen 1 that runs MS well enough, but again it’s linked to my account. I have a licence for MS that is linked to my account, and i have an Apple music account as well, so my ID needs to be on the ipad. -
The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
I use an ipad 9 for Mixing station. I was thinking id like to get an Android tablet though, as ive handed my ipad to a mate a couple of times at gigs to mix us, and while i trust him, it means he has access to my private stuff on it as its logged in to my Apple ID (i use it for music playback as well). -
Mixing IEM's - share your knowledge/experience here please
dave_bass5 replied to JPJ's topic in PA set up and use
Since getting our XR18 I make sure everyone that needs a mix does their own, either using MX Bus or Monitor mode in Mixing station. I have my iPad controlling mine and FOH, but I can keep an eye on everyone's mix, but of Cours ei don't touch them as I have no idea what the mix is like. I still get calls of 'I can't hear the reverb' or 'I need more guitar', but I shrug it off and tell them that's their job, not mine. My mix is of course stereo, and I have a stereo digital recorder feeding the ambient in. I tried one of the mono mixes once, didn't like it and I'm surprised no one in the band has mentioned it. maybe I'm just used to stereo. As much as I really like Mixing Station, MX Bus seems much better for the monitors. it's a lot cleaner and works better on phone screens. -
Pretty much my route to IEM’s as well. I’ve got an unused Yamaha DBR12, love it but it’s mono and i was getting a few issues, i got a B205D that i didn’t like so exchanged it for a B207D ( much better sounding than the 205) but still didn’t get what i was happy with so don’t use that, brought a couple of small mixers on the way, and was happy with the Mackie i got, but it’s now gathering dust with the other bits as I’m now fully IEM’d up with our XR18. Should have just got that in the first place.
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The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread
dave_bass5 replied to EBS_freak's topic in Accessories and Misc
You can even route a pair to the headphone/monitor, although they do have to be as a pair of 1/2, 3/4, 5/6. Are you sure the Aux outs get disabled when using them through the headphones on the XR18? I haven’t tried it but i don’t like it if they do.