dave_bass5

I got a MXR M82 last week, as well as a B1-FOUR, so this is is how ill be playing Groove is in the Heart. Still got a bit of tweaking to do with the M82, and also figuring out how to use my Zoom R8 recorder properly (not had it long). B1 patch is the stock Motown patch. Drum track just one of the R8 built in rhythms, ive not had time to get to grips with it yet. Filter Test.mp3

I must admit ive not used mine since Thursday. Just seen too busy. i pretty much agree with Bas over everything he has written, although I’m not explored it as much yet. i cant comment on the HPF, as ive not used that yet. I not need it as it seems my Paradriver has a HPF built in, which should be enough. Ive never needed a HPF in all my years of playing, but i did get a Thumpinator a while ago to see what it did. Ill keep hold of it for now though. I did get a MXR M82 filter this week, and on first play i didnt think it was as good as the M-filter or A-Wah effect’s in the B1on. Unfortunately the M-Filter has been dropped from the B1-Four, but i do like the A-Wah still, and again, I find its better than the M82. The M82 has a very powerful freq boost as the filter is closing. I’m sure i just need to get used to the knobs, but i don’t find any of the Zoom filters to be as pronounced, they seem smoother and more consistent, and so may well be the way forward for me as a one box do it all (other than my Paradriver) Ive not yet plugged it in to a computer, might do that in a while and see what’s what. Ive not used my B1on with a computer either. I find the patch creation fairly easy and for me its all about getting a nice clean solid tone so i wont be playing much with the synths/delays’ etc. Ill check out that sound file in the other thread now 🙂

Yeah, the drum section has been much better implemented over the previous Bxx units. As i pointed out earlier each knob controls a different parameter. With the B1on you had to scroll to each parameter, press enter and then you could adjust it. A bit long winded. Ive only every used the looper on my B1on once, and it was pretty cool but not something i would use again.

Sorry, just seen this. Thanks for the info, thats good to know.

Could also be DPD that delivers, who are a lot more reliable IME

Yeah, wonder why Lol.

I take no responsibility if you don’t like it lol

Bas, good write up. Glad someone did it. As far as number or patches go, I’m glad they kept the number down. As you say, a lot of the stock ones are a bit naff, so it’s better to overwrite them rather than to have to keep scrolling past them IMO. i struggle with too much choice, so not having all the slight variations that the B1-on and B3n have is a blessing. I think with the previous units Zoom put too many only slightly different patches in, and it made settling on just one harder for me, and time consuming jumping between them. I can see the Four will be less of this, as ill make up the patches i want and won’t be tempted to keep trying others. Definitely a lot of the B3n patches that I’m used to are missing, but it will be fun re creating them i guess. Ive never used the software before and will try to do it all on the pedal itself, that way ill get a good knowledge of how it works, but ill also give the software a look. I wonder if B3n patches can be loaded in to it (doubtful).

Yes, i hear that as well with the B1-on. As you say the sound seems more digital at the end of the note. There is also a high end boost with most of the patches. Because i play with a pick its more noticeable. I don’t mind it because I’m only playing at home, normally along to a YouTube video so it gets masked To my ears the Four has less than the B1-on on all the above. Obviously drives etc will produce noise but there was no hum or hiss when not playing, and the notes just seemed more ‘real’. Ill try it ion a PSU tonight as well, but i have no intention of using one with this device.

Ok, ill do it tomorrow. I make that 6 boxes

I did actually take a shot with not only the 60B in it, but also my R8 🙂 Seeing as you had done the 60B i didnt bother posting it.

Forgot to post this earlier.

Product Red as Apple would call it....and then charge a premium for it lol.

I thought I had already said it sounded better, but if not, then yes, it sound better 🙂 No need for my B1-on anymore, but will give it to my son, who also has the G1-on.

When you hit edit the first 3 knobs relate to the first 3 parameters in that effect. The 4th knob takes you to the next page of 3 parameters. If there are only 4 parameters then all 4 knobs are used.

Nice one Bas. Mine will sit on the bed/couch when i use it at home so i the expression pedal wouldn’t get used. Ill get a shot done with the B1-on soon. The B1-on seems a bit wider but both are pretty similar. I just had a quick play with mine. I love it. The tone seems strong and no noise that i can hear. Definitely a bit more kick to the tone over then B1-on. I also love how those knobs have direct control over the drum machine. Instead of having to scroll though Pattern/BPM/volume etc, before you can adjust it each of those knobs now control ther relevant parameter directly. More than worth £68 IMO.

Im sure there will be a small influx of Zoom boxes over the coming weeks/days 😉

I agree about the foot switches as well, and it would also help spread them out. I hated my B3 because of the closeness of the switches, although the B3n was a bit better. Ive still not played through the 4 yet, but i have played with the switches and settings etc. im very impressed at what Zoom have accomplished. The main knobs on the front adjust overall Bass/Mid/treble/Master Volume, and are active all the time. This is very handy and not something any of the previous Zoom boxes have (AFAIK). When you go in to patch mode each of the 5 buttons correspond to one of the 5 effects, so you can turn each effect on and off using just the button (or foot switch) without going in to any menu or selection routine like on the B1-on. It all just seems more intuitive and less button pushing and scrolling around menus. Very happy so far.

i cant really use a rig in my flat, so always go for the headphone option. it suits me and means i can practice anywhere, and also play my ipad though it. Saying that, i do occasionally plug whatever im using (Zoom/Spectradrive etc) in to my Bluetooth speaker, via a cable, and that sounds lovely. Very punchy and loads of bass, without the volume id have to go to if using a rig.

I have to say, im pretty pleased with the price. Considering it was delivered free by DPD the next day thats pretty good value.

Sure, ill do it tonight. Ill line it up with the B3n and B1on. Its a bit smaller than i imagined, which could make it tricky for live use. Thats fine for me as i didnt buy it for that, even though i had been thinking of using it live. The overall feel is nice, it seems a bit more robust than the B1on. the plastic feels very sturdy. its got a slight roughness ot it which makes it feel less plastic that the B1on. This is my size 11 foot.

FIRST!!!!!! 🙂

I love the ability to turn on and off individual effects in a patch. Very handy

Agreed. A lot of the big companies also have eBay outlets. Ive never used one before but at £69 it was worth a shot. Just got an email to say its been posted so we shall see. I noticed GAK have the guitar version in stock already.

Yeah, or maybe something more technical like 'Why use a single pick when you have multiple fingers' 🙂