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dave_bass5

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  1. [quote name='stevie' timestamp='1460128093' post='3022890'] I would agree with your two advisors that a cab with a midrange driver could solve your problem. Personally, I'd never consider a cab without one. I've no experience of the Vanderkley, but I would certainly give it a try. I thought Barefaced made one, but I've just checked and it must be discontinued. [/quote] Yeah, whatever happens with the BB2 I do intend to try one out. Might have to go on a road trip to Bass Direct.
  2. That all makes perfect sense, and it agree, what works well in isolation doesn't always work well in a live mix. When I got my Darkglass VMT I was horrified at the loss of top end (compared to my VTBass) and the middy tone It produced, but it a band context this actually helped me with getting heard and the tone became more focused. I play mostly with a pick, but am trying to play more finger style. I do find things sound better with fingers, there seems to be more substance to the notes. I think your's and the other comments have made me realise I need to put a bit more effort in and try and sort this out without spending more money, or maybe I should get a Big Twin II instead :-)
  3. [quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1460120670' post='3022786'] Suppose it depends on what sort of colouration you want - some speakers really add a lot to the sound when they start to get to the cone breakup stage, you can never really get that from any sort of EQ. If you want particular dips and peaks in the frequency response, that's a whole different ballgame, and how the EQ bands line up with the cab response anomalies can be great, or in some circumstances just unworkable because you can't adjust the offending frequency sufficiently or end up messing somethin else up. If you haven't already tried it, maybe try going into the FX return and experiment with the different amp/cab sims on your 60B - the frequency responses of the zoom sims is well documented, and if you find something you particularly like it might be useful to point you in the direction of what you are looking for (or might offer you a solution you like with what you have already). [/quote] Thanks again. I dont use my 60B live anymore but it's a good suggestion. I do think I have a great tone already, it's just that it's not really translating out in to the room. I really can't turn up any louder as its getting painful. Maybe it is just an EQ issue, or bloody drummer issue, but I can't boost the mids anymore at this volume. When I started this thread I was really asking about the 15MN6. It's a cab that interests me and although it might not be any sort of cure, I'd like to get some impressions on it. Even if I didn't have any of these issues I'd like to give one of these a go at some point.
  4. [quote name='funkle' timestamp='1460118715' post='3022754'] Alex and Subsonic offer reasonable advice. What goes into a BB2 is largely what comes out of it, at least IMO when I tried one. About as pure a cab as ever I have heard. If you stand further out front and fiddle the mid EQ a lot, you may get the punch you need. I don't want to teach you to suck eggs, you probably have already done this, but the EQ you have available may be the limiting factor. [/quote] Cheers. I do admit there are many things I haven't tried, and I'm in no rush to change cabs, but I would like to explore other brands as well.
  5. Thanks. The two amps I've used are a Markbass F1, with and without VTBass/DG VMTD, and my new GKMB800, with and without VTBass and Darkglass VMT. I stopped using the 1212L around Aug last year, so i don't have that tone in my head anymore, I only brought it up as I had been using it in the same studios as the BB2 without the same effect. I know the 1212L is like a sledgehammer when it comes to mids, and doesn't sound as smooth or as deep as the BB2 I've seen those GK figures, although I thought it was 11 o'clock on the treble and bass for the MB800, and I do find I use the low mid a lot more than the low knob. I don't use the contour as I don't like scooped tones anyway, and I'm certainly not hearing a scooped tone when up close. Maybe it's the fact that the BB2 is quite neutral, maybe for me a more coloured cab will work better. This is not a reflection on the BB2, just a personal preference. In the 20 odd years Ive been gigging I've not gone through too many cabs, but if something isn't quite working it's just time to move on.
  6. [quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1460115144' post='3022704'] EQ is a personal thing - it depends on the player, the bass, the amp, the cab, the venue, etc etc. Where the knobs are pointing is irrelevant (same with the gain/volume knobs). If your tone is right in the context of the mix then it'll be right out front. If you judge your tone in the context of being much closer to your cab than to everyone else's amps, you'll be hearing yourself much louder in the mix than you'll be out front, which means you're more likely to tend towards a tone that sounds great soloed but may not be appropriate for sitting correctly in a properly balanced mix. One of the best things any bassist can do for their sound and the band's sound is to stand further from their cab, so they can judge their tone in the mix more accurately. [/quote] Thanks, yes I see what you are getting at. My problem is I'm too loud where I'm standing and sometimes can't stand any further away.
  7. Thanks Alex. I understand point 2 but not point 1. Do you mean the EQ is set wrong? I tend to use an almost flat EQ, with The lows backed off slightly, as I find the BB2 has a lovely low end but can overpower the mids. As far as turning up, I'm now at volume levels where my wireless receiver is falling off the rig. In 13 years off gigging this hasn't happened until recently where I have been turning up. You could be right though, maybe I just need to go louder and stand further way.
  8. There is a discussion about that video over on Talkbass. A lot of people think it's pretty meaningless.
  9. This is true, but id suggest that some cabs do what they do better, or in a more pleasing way than others, even the the less coloured cabs. Ive found over the years that it is indeed the cab that can make the biggest difference to the final tone. Edited to say, rather than make the biggest difference, maybe its more stopping achieving the tone you have in your head.
  10. Im looking at replacing my BB2 with a Vanderkley 1x15 (maybe, its first on the list). Ive never found any cab or rig to sound bad at low levels, even turned up in a shop. For me the only test worth doing is with a band. Once the drummer starts i then gauge how well things are working. So yes, recommendations are good but you cant beat a real test to see how things work. I find a lot of recommendations are also based on low level playing, or with PA support. Not always helpful to those needing a cab to do it all, although better than nothing.
  11. I stand by my comments, i just thought my post didn't really add to the original topic much.
  12. Sorry, I've decided to delete this post (I know it's been seen already though). I thought about it and don't think it added anything to the original topic. Let's just say I don't think BF is for me after all, and living proof that not everyone who buys one keeps it.
  13. Ive had my BB2 for a few months, and its been the best sounding cab ive ever owned. Recently ive started to notice the tone when up close is way more punchy and articulate than, say 10ft and over from the cab. This is in rehearsal rooms as well as gigs. I was very used to my old 1212L, and although tone wise that wasn't up to the BB2 it had more out front punch. Volume isnt an issue, in fact for the first time in my playing life things are falling off the top of my rig, but i feel im still missing something overall. Its not a complaint of the cab, i love it, but i think i have to keep moving on and trying other cabs. The 15MN6 has been recommended to me now by two people, so thats probably next on the list. Adding a second cab is not going to happen, as ill have to sell the BB2 to fund another cab anyway. I dont want this thread turning in in to a BF pro/against thread, i have no real complaints with this cab, its just probably not quite the thing i was looking for when i started a thread last year. i really want to know more about the 15MN6 and how it compares to the BB2 at gig volumes, without PA support if possible. Cheers.
  14. [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1459766196' post='3019266'] It's not a pad, they're expecting different impedances. As I wrote above. Active basses have low output impedance across all frequencies, but passive basses will have differing impedances depending on the pickups and frequencies. [/quote] Yeah, i meant it has the effect of adding a pad.
  15. [quote name='peted' timestamp='1459756577' post='3019144'] If you're clipping and distorting the input stage of the amp switch to the 'active' input. This doesn't relate to whether your guitar is passive of active, though if active and you do a lot of boosted tone shaping in your guitar you're more likely to need the active input of the amp. [/quote] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]We dont know if it was clipping or just not a good tone, but if it was clipping im at a loss to figure out how the passive input was fine but the active (assuming its a pad) wasnt.[/font]
  16. [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1459713962' post='3018927'] Eh? [/quote] Over in the USA the laws of physics don't seem to apply. Let's just say some people tend to exaggerate over on TB, a lot more than they do here.
  17. [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1459706245' post='3018791'] Would it keep up with a shed-building drummer..? [/quote] Only if you are Talk bass ;-)
  18. [quote name='Tony p' timestamp='1459677826' post='3018503'] Hi , I played a festival last night, turned up, plugged my active bass into the active input of the supplied bass amp and it sounded like a bag of spanners, sound guy comes over and says plug it into the passive input, did that and it sounded like a bass again Can someone more enlightened than me explain what the effect of active into passive is? Ps we only had 20 mins in between bands so I didn't have time to play about with settings etc as I had my semi accoustic guitar to sort aswell..... Cheers. [/quote] I'm not sure what a bag of spanners sounds like when referred to bass, but to me it sounds like the input might have been buggered. As others have said, it's normally a pad, so should give you a lower volume. As the passive input seemed ok I'd say your bass wasn't putting out a hot signal. Can't think of any other reason.
  19. Ok, I think I know the cause, as the iPad isn't grounded and neither is the PSU I'm using for my VMT. Touching the stings or hardware cures it but that's not ideal. So, can anyone suggest the cheapest option to earth this set up? It's only for occasion bedroom practice through headphones, so buying or using a small desk isn't an option. I do have an old DI box (and a VTBass DI) but I have a feeling that would fit need to be hooked up to something else to be effective? To be honest I'm not bothered about using the VMT, i might never do it again (with the iPad), but I'd like to know if it's something very easy to sort out.
  20. [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Ive just gone back to using a Darkglass VMT, although ill never get rid of my VTBass DI.[/font] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Although ive not used it at gig volume yet im hoping the VMT will be a bit more versatile than the VTBass, due to how the Era and drive knobs can be tweaked without a jump in output level. To me this is a killer feature, and one i missed immediately when i sold my VMTD last year. I dont need full on distortion, nor really over drive, but i like how the VMT can change the overall character of an amp. I want warm and tick, but also thinner and more articulate during my sets. It does have a character of its own, and if im honest i prefer the VTBass with my Markbass head, but the MB800 is cleaner and punchier and i feel it can take a small hit on the brightness scale. To my ears the VTBass is just a bit too lively with the MB800 for what i want.[/font]
  21. Its more to do with the fact that im now using a decent full range cab, that has proper lows. The bass is just a passive P bass, and the pup is arranged so the E is backed off a bit. I guess i should have said fullness of the E string rather than volume. In the past ive been using a Schroeder 1212L. Nice cab, very mid heavy so never really needed EQ much to get me heard, but lacking any real low end. Now im hearing this low end and i just need to back it off a bit on the amp to give me a more even tone across the strings. Ive never had to back off the lows with the 1212L, so its never been an issue. I think it was the lows overpowering the tone a bit, so i would turn down until the lows felt right, whereas i should have been backing the lows off and not going quieter. Im still getting used to having a full range cab, and realise i need to start using the EQ and not rely on a mid heavy cab to get me heard. Lowering the low's on the amp, and upping the low mids a touch seems to work well, at least with my new MB800.
  22. [quote name='neilp' timestamp='1459355554' post='3015761'] I think he meant getting paid direct by the brewery... [/quote] Ah yes, on second read (without the boss looking over my shoulder) I can see that now.
  23. [quote name='bassjim' timestamp='1459352721' post='3015713'] local pub landlady to me: "loved to have your band on here but we only pay £150.00-£200.00 for a band. its all we can afford". what a load of old sh*t. Brewery pays £300.00 and I know cause we play at another venue owned by the same brewery. guess whos' pocketing the difference then!!??!!. Obviously told her we wont want a gig there any time soon (its a shithole anyway) [b]Getting paid direct is a good thing when it comes to these types[/b]. [/quote] Im not sure i follow. If you get paid by the landlord you get underpaid if the brewery normalcy pay £300, wouldn't you get more by dealing with the brewery rather than direct?
  24. I work almost 20 days a month before i see any wages, i cant see the big deal with not getting paid on the night for gigs. Lost's of function bands work this way, as do most legit employers.
  25. [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1459166554' post='3013997'] I'm getting better at finding a balance with my new SC's. They sound very different to my Bergs but I'm getting there. [/quote] Im finding the same thing going from my never not loud enough 1212L to my Barefaced BB2. Im finding the low end is so big that im basing my volume level on the volume of the E string, and then finding the rest of the bass isnt loud enough. Ive even mythologised to the band for being a bit loud after a gig, only to be told by all of them that they couldn't hear me most of the time. Im now working on having the lows back off a bit (never done that before), low mids up a bit and volume louder than i feel it should be. Seems to be getting there. It also doesn't help that when we sound check everyone else backs off a bit, doesn't put any effort in to it. Then when we play its louder, except i dont tend to turn up during a gig as i do base my level on sound checks.
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