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If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1437653506' post='2827872'] downer I've never tried mine with a different amp, (although I do tend to bypass the pre-amp these days) so I'm interested to see what you think [/quote] Me too. One thing i probably didnt mention was i was also using my Darkglass VMTD. Of course i use this with my MB heads as well but it was almost like all the planets were in alignment :-) [quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1437656283' post='2827913'] Nope. Never needed it. I dont know what the technical term for it would be (possibly dispersion?), but when i first got the cab i tested it with a friend playing my bass through my set up. I was amazed how clearly i could hear it, and so equally ( as in it sounded the same at every position in the room to my ears). The volume is not an issue either, but that might be down to the amp used? I use a EBS TD650 and its never gone above 11 oclock on volume and 9 oclock on drive and gain. If you ever come down my way your most welcome to come and have a go. [/quote] Thanks for that. It does seem like the Retro is the way to go. I like the idea of the tone staying pretty much consistent. I know with my 1212L the on stage tone is very middy, but out front into the room it changes quite a bit. Both are good and work well together but at sound checks i dont tend to wonder too far from the centre of the dance floor. Knowing the tone will be quite close at the back without needing to go out and walk amongst the [s]unwashed[/s] social club members will be a god send. Hmmm, very, very temped now. -
[quote name='Noisyjon' timestamp='1437236525' post='2824620'] Anyone got hold of one yet? Thomann have the ETA at 7/8/15 and a price of €542 ~£376 at the moment... Having a bit of GAS for one of these through a Barefaced Retro Two 10 [/quote] Well the Retro two 10 is right at the top of my new cab list, ill probably be ordering one very soon, and now i have a new amp list, with only one amp on it lol.
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If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1437647837' post='2827786'] did you manage to try your head through the peavey cab? [/quote] Unfortunately the combo was in another room last night. I had to use a huge Marshall 2x15 cab with my MB head. Horrible experience :-( -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks for the reply. Do you have PA support? -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
No, i dont think thats the answer. Ive used a few different amps with my 1212L and ive never really got the tone i hopped for. The 1212L has its own tone and this is what im trying to get away from. Ive used the head with other cabs at the studio recently and its more than capable of giving me the tone im after, even with different cabs. Actually i'd say its more a tone im trying to get away from than actually knowing what im looking for if that makes sense. Most of the cabs ive used at the studio have been more traditional sounding, and thats more what i want these days. Im taking my head tonight so hopefully i can hook that up. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks Frank. Good point about the finances, although I'm happy to not compromise too much. I must admit the idea of the retro two 10 is very appealing. If it can keep up with the band (and I'm sure it can) it seems perfect. As my head puts out 500watts at 4 ohms it seems a perfect match, and I like the idea the impedance of the cab can be changed if I decide to add another. Most of our gigs will be social clubs, the usual wooden stage bored audience kind of gigs. My head never struggles and I'd hope that would still be true with the new cab. I've got a lot more research to do still, some very Interesting suggestions in here but the retro two 10 seems to appeal the most. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1437492783' post='2826509'] I absolutely love my TNT 15" combo. I wonder how much of the sound you love is coming from the speaker, and how much from the amp? Or are you plugging your own pre-amp into the effects return on the peavey? [/quote] It was all coming from the combo. I was going to try and use my F1 but in the end the tone i was hearing (with everything flat) was just perfect. Of course this was in a dead sounding rehearsal room. Back there tomorrow night with a 5 string, just to see what it can do. I did try and lift it and, well, its not something i would consider buying. Its not un manageable but the days of me carrying something that heavy around is long gone (unless you count the bloody PA and guitar amps i still have to carry:) -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1437483108' post='2826367'] From our range it sounds like you might be best served with a Retro Two10. It'll certainly be loud enough! [/quote] Hmmm, i hadnt even considered that but from your web page it does look like it should be ideal. Freq range seems nice and to be honest i like the idea of two drivers over one. Not based on anything other than ive never found a single driver cab has worked as well for me. Never tired 10's though. Thanks Alex, i might just end up with one of these. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1437421504' post='2825900'] I run my compact with a Reidmar and I can get very Chris Squire trebley if I need to with that combination, not that I have the chops you understand, but its there alright. Not tried a MB head so can't comment there. Also the Reidmar is plenty loud, 2 guitarists with 50W 4x12 Marshalls and I still get myself heard! [/quote] The Markbass head is a bit more polite by all accounts. It's a perfect match with the 1212L, as the cab helps add a bit more punch to what sounds to me like quite a flat and even tone. These days I can't imagine using the head without a preamp like my Darkglass or Sansamp, they just bring everything to life. I don't go for really bright tones but a nice bit of clank is sometime welcome. As I'm trying hard to not use a pick my basic tone has also changed, maybe the 1212L will be better without the pick. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Cheers John. Two cabs is not an option at the moment, I just won't have space in the car. It does sound like a 212 might work for me. I'll do some more reading up on this brand over the next few days. I do like what I've read so far about these and the prices seem reasonable. It's dawned on me that maybe I'm worring about nothing. As loud as my 1212L can go I'd never really needed to push it hard, so even if a replacement cab is t quite as pokey that might not matter. Luckily I'm only fighting against an un amplified drummer who prefers cymbals over skins to make his racket. Good point about the Berg's weight as well, although as the weight is specified I can make an educated guess as to if its going to be heavier than I care for. I don't really consider the Markbass F1 as a pokey head. It's loud but quite a flat tone. It's does the job of course. As soon as my Yamaha sells I'll be in a better position to go ahead and get a new cab, hopefully by then I'll have settled on something.......and then sell it 3 months later and go back to the 1212L :-( -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
I've never heard of TKS but I'll go and look In to them now. Thanks for the heads up guys. I do quite fancy a Berg NV115 as well and theres a used one going for £550 at Bass Direct. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Actually my mind WAS made up but it's now open again, so thanks for the reply and I will go back and have another look. -
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Price now £310. I got the above bass just under a year ago from the Yamaha shop in London. The cost was £540 Here's what Yamaha say about it (and its all true) [url="http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/el-basses/trbx/trbx505/?mode=model"]http://uk.yamaha.com...505/?mode=model[/url] Ive used it quite a bit but recently its not getting out much, due to my Sire V7 taking over the role as my main 5 string. Its in very good condition. I cant see any scratches or marks on it other than one small (3-5mm round) dent in the finish with ill try and photograph on request. Its not noticeable at all unless the light is right, and its on the back right down by the CE markings. No buckle rash either. Its been well looked after. Its quite light for a 5 string, and shorter than my P and Jazz basses. Handy for travelling light. I love the tone from this bass. Its a bit bland ut this works well for me as it fits in with most styles. The B string is usable, but not cant compete with a longer scale or higher quality bass. It works for me but i know B strings can be quite subjective. Although the bass doesn't come with a bag from Yamaha ill put it in a Thomanns padded gig bag. As above i dont want to post this. Its more a question of finding the time and packaging as much as it is about wanting the buyer to be happy before taking it. Im looking to fund a Barefaced cab so no trades wanted, im sorted for basses any way. and the gig bag [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_elite_gigbag_electric_guitar.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...tric_guitar.htm[/url] Cheers. Any questions fire away.
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[b]EDIT: Price dropped to £310 to reflect what i need to get back for a new cab.[/b] I got the above bass just under a year ago from the Yamaha shop in London. The cost was £540 Here's what Yamaha say about it (and its all true) [url="http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/el-basses/trbx/trbx505/?mode=model"]http://uk.yamaha.com...505/?mode=model[/url] Ive used it quite a bit but recently its not getting out much, due to my Sire V7 taking over the role as my main 5 string. Its in very good condition. I cant see any scratches or marks on it other than one small (3-5mm round) dent in the finish with ill try and photograph on request. Its not noticeable at all unless the light is right, and its on the back right down by the CE markings. No buckle rash either. Its been well looked after. Its quite light for a 5 string, 8.4lbs, and shorter than my P and Jazz basses. I find its the easiest bass i have for travelling. I love the tone from this bass. Its a bit bland ut this works well for me as it fits in with most styles. The B string is usable, but not cant compete with a longer scale or higher quality bass. It works for me but i know B strings can be quite subjective. Although the bass doesn't come with a bag from Yamaha ill put it in a Thomanns padded gig bag. As above i dont want to post this. Its more a question of finding the time and packaging as much as it is about wanting the buyer to be happy before taking it. Im looking to fund a Barefaced cab so no trades wanted, im sorted for basses any way. and the gig bag [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_elite_gigbag_electric_guitar.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...tric_guitar.htm[/url]
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If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks Lozz. I agree about the MB bit, the Eq does seem a bit limiting although i cant say i actually use it much. The MB/1212L combo just seem to work together well. I used to have a SA450 for the extra EQ options, but found i hardly ever touched that either. Im not use what freq's the VMTD uses but it seems quite bright. Its not really a deal breaker if im honest. Most of our songs are 50-s 70's covers so most of the time i have to back off the tone a bit on my P bass. I just dont want to find the SC to sound muffled all the time. I like a bit of new sting zing sometimes. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks for the suggestion. I had a look on their website but i dont really want a cab with a horn and/or tweeter. I have the tweeter turned off in my 1212L. I dont need to cut through much, i just need to fill out the low end but still keep definition. The band im using it with is just guitar (18watt valve combo), drums, bass and vocals, with a 300watt (ish)vocal PA, so i wont have any issues cutting through, but im dont want to find i have to push my amp or cab at larger gigs. Can i just ask those that have or have used the compact, can it get bright if needed? I dont mean sizzle, but for some songs like the Jam ones i do turn my DarkGlass VMTD Distortion up a bit, will this still be heard clearly or is the top end a bit more subdued? Ill be using my MarkBass F1 which doesnt have a very powerful EQ, although i dont find that an issue as i dont really touch it. Im pretty set on the BF Super compact now, and ill probably do something stupid like order one before the weekend is out. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks for the replies. It does sound like the BF Compact will do exactly what I'm after. I've just looked on their website and can just about afford the Super Compact. I agree about the mid spike in the 1212L. It's nice to have for getting me out In to room but can be bloody annoying sometimes, and yes, definitely not a traditional low end. My worry was purely based on an uneducated theory about how can one 12" speaker be as loud as 2. Ive also had very lightweight cabs and they have ended up jumping around the stage, because there is no heavy amp on top. Ive never gone over 11 o'clock on the master so I know I'm never actually pushing my 1212L, but that mid spike certainly helps me keep the master down. It seems like most off you have already gone through this transition though so I'll take it as read that the BF will work perfectly. I know Alex really knows his stuff so I shouldn't really have worried. I'll keep an eye out on the classifieds as well. It's not something I want to get now, we only have one gig booked, but if the new band does take off (and we have been promised work from the old bands ages to) then a BF compact or super compact is on the cards. I must admit they do tick every box. Cheers all. -
If i wanted to get rid of my Schroeder 1212L for a 1x15.....
dave_bass5 replied to dave_bass5's topic in Amps and Cabs
Yes, a Barefaced cab has been on and of the cards for a few years. They do seem very expensive if new but I have seen one or two recently that have spiked my interest. I'd like one of the smaller ones though as space is at a premium, but they just look so small that I'm not sure if I can believe very the description. I think I've gone over this before in another thread, the Barefaced vs 1212L question, but now I'm ready to try something else. I'm trying my hardest to give up pick playing. I'm in a new band with a new sound so I think I might as well get a new sound as well. It's using this TNT combo that's really opened my eye, or ears, to what I'm missing. Building something is not on the cards. I'm useless at all that, don't have the tools and don't have the time. Mark. If I ever do get rid of the 1212L you have first refusal, but like you,say, this could drag on and on lol. -
......What would be a good replacement? Ive had the 1212L for a good few years and have no issues with it, but recently ive been using a Peavey 1x15 combo at rehearsal s and love the tone. Im starting to think the "quirky" Schroeder tone might not be getting me the best tone from my basses. Over the past few years ive tried other cabs, Mark bass (never again), Epifany UL212 (too soft sounding) and UL 115 (best cab ive ever owned but lacked volume) but always seem to go back to the 1212L. Ive never needed the amount of volume it can handle, but ive always felt safe knowing ill never run out of steam. The 2 UL cabs needed me to push my head too much for a couple of big gigs i did. I went back and did the same gigs with the 1212L and it was much easier with this cab. I apreciate the 1212L is very pokey though, but not a traditional sounding cab, and this is what im after now. So, now id like a smallish, Neo type 1x15 (must be light weight, im not getting any younger or stronger) that has a nice low end and will match up with my Markbass F1 and P or Jazz bass. Something a bit more traditional sounding. I suppose it need to be rated at 400watts or so. I dont use FX's and dont slap, and im just playing wedding type covers. Price is a consideration, id say up to £400 would be perfect but the budget might be able to go a bit more for the right cab. Ideas, thoughts appreciated. Two cabs is not an option, and my rig supplies all the bass at gigs so PA support is also not an option. Happy to go second hand if i have to. Ill keep the 1212L so i can afford to make a mistake although id rather not. Cheers.
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Wow, this is my old bass. Never thought I would see this again. A bit of background. I brought this new from the Gallery in 2009. It did come with Hanson pups but I was never happy with the tone. I decided I wanted a P tone but loved the look and feel of this bass. So I got the Gallery to put the Nordstrand P in. I got a blank pickguard from Simms and the Gallery did the rest. After i realalised the bridge pup was going to buzz when used on its own I put the Norstrand bridge pup in myself. Still didn't get on with the tone so reluctantly sold it. All in I paid £1600 or there abouts. I've always regretted selling it but, the time just isn't right to buy it back at the moment. Good luck with the sale. The asking price is pretty amazing for what the buyer will get. Edit: Actually the original pups were indeed Aero's and not Hansons.