dave_bass5

I had one of the original JV serial number Squiers but sold it (well, traded it in at the Bass Centre) a few years ago. The guy in the workshop, (Chris) told me that it was the neck thats the valuable part, apparently they were made in the same factory as the real Fender necks. For what its worth i got £300 trade in, and this was for a bass that cost me £199 but had all the hardware changed to gold Schaller (well, it was the 80's) and a different pup in it. I think the next version is the SQ serial number, not sure what they are worth. My view is that while the basses have definitely gone up in value, from their initial price, they arent worth stupid money like some people have been asking for. The competition in this price area is huge and you can get better basses for less money now. Then again, if some one wants one they will pay for it.

Ive used a BDDI most of last year and this year, until i got my Streamliner. I love the BDDI/MB tone. Unfortunately i dont use my CV Jazz bass much these days as it has my CV P neck on it but its nice to get it out every now and then.

[quote name='dan670844' post='1310535' date='Jul 20 2011, 05:00 PM']Yes I also had a typo bleeding Ipad too clever...... I found that with the 84's too, but they are great for Dubby type choones I sometimes cover and three piece kind of power trio band I am in. They fill out the bottom in the music, they have a big low end wack and loose no definition. I have not found that with any other pickup everything else always goes muddy.[/quote] Yep, im on my iPhone so typing with a finger tip while walking. I think my main issue was the bass rather than the 84's. Ive had the same set of pups (84's and 74's) in both the CV Jazz and a HW-one Jazz and they sounded a lot more articulate and open in the HW-one. To be honest i really only noticed a small difference in the CV between the 84 and 74 but it was a nice difference.

Ive just noticed a typo in my post. It should have read "When i put [b]84[/b]'s in my CV Jazz i felt it was a bit too dark" and not 74's.

[quote name='lobematt' post='1310380' date='Jul 20 2011, 02:58 PM']Cheers bro, just sent him an email now, the 74s sound like they could be winners, are they the same price as the others?[/quote] Yes, same price (or at least mine were). I had the 84's and spoke to Andy about not really liking them and he said send them back and he will post a set of 74's out. All he charged me was a bit of postage to get the new ones out to me, he even had them waiting for me before the 84's had arrived back. Great service. Right, this thread has again reminded me i still haven't put my Thumper back in my CV P. Ill do that tonight.

[quote name='lanark' post='1310309' date='Jul 20 2011, 02:05 PM']When the bumf says it's a dark thick tone - what exactly does that mean? I have a Squier CV Jazz and could do with a bit more oomph and definition at times. I play in a salsa band so I want a woody, upright kind of sound - so I've installed flats, but I'm wondering if replacing the stock pups with a pair of Wizard 84s might help. I can't find any you tube vids of people showing off their new Wizards so I can't tell what difference it might make - I don't want to buy them and find they're the opposite of what I wanted.[/quote] When i put 84's in my CV Jazz i felt it was a bit too dark. To me this means too much low mid bump and lack of sparkle. I felt i lost some definition in the harmonics. The bass itself is quite warm sounding IMO so this didnt help (the same pups in my HW-one sounded very different). Have a word with Andy and ask about 74's . These are in the middle of the 84 and 64. Still with a nice low end thump but with more going on up top. Im also playing weddings/functions etc and i find they work well with this bass.

[quote name='aldude' post='1310021' date='Jul 20 2011, 10:03 AM']I sometimes have a problem with gigs that just don't sound right. The consistency - or lack of that you have experienced - concerns me. Have you tried something like a Gramma pad? That might help.[/quote] Yes, i always use a gramma pad. To be honest ive always found an inconsistency with whatever rig i use, after all, no two rooms are the same. My problem is the lack of EQ to correct it, plus my cab isnt the ideal partner for this head (apparently). I have no idea if my F1 would have copped any better with the poor sounding gigs, and ive had many poor sounding gigs my other heads so maybe im over reacting. What i can say is that every Marquee gig ive done (6) with the GB its worked perfectly, plenty loud, great chunky tone and good solid low end, and this is whats keeping me with it. Saying that, i doubt ill have many more of those after the wedding season finishes. If i keep the GB ill certainly be looking to get a BF compact to replace the 1212L.

[quote name='aldude' post='1309586' date='Jul 19 2011, 08:12 PM']Thanks all and food for thought certainly. Dave, I notice that you happen to have your Streamliner up for sale. Send me a PM if you still want to sell and I will certainly consider yours![/quote] It is still for sale, all the details are in the add. To be honest I keep changing my mind so I'm not actively pushing to sell it now, I'm just going to see what happens but I'd anyone does want it I'm happy to sell. It's a great amp but quite a bit different from my usual MB heads. When it works it works very well but at some gigs I'm finding a more solid state amp works better, especially one whith more EQ for the trickier gigs.

[quote name='retrohelix' post='1309351' date='Jul 19 2011, 04:53 PM']Opinions like the ones expressed here seem a little silly, when she could probably outplay most of us at any given genre. *edit: I didn't mean that. I just meant... imagine yourself on stage next to Tal in front of Jeff Beck, and you're asked to take a solo. She's definitely on it. What does your opinion matter at this point?[/quote] Well ive already stated i think she has talent, its the music i didnt like, and yes, she could outplay me with just one broken finger but so could most people on here. I've heard some fantastic playing from members on here that have been much more enjoyable but that doesn't make Tal's playing any less impressive to others. I admit i do have a problem with virtuoso bass playing like in the video posted, i think its boring, and clichéd, a bit like slap. And i count Jaco, wooten etc in with that lot as well, just so you know where im coming from.

Looking forward to it. This might be the push i need to get one as well to replace my 1212L

[quote name='4000' post='1309291' date='Jul 19 2011, 03:55 PM']What depresses me most (and I've been guilty of this too) is the negativity that is always expressed when someone posts a clip of a player they like, be it Tal or anyone else. Enjoy. Or don't. It's that simple.[/quote] Thats called having a different opinion and if people dont want other opinion (and im sure they do) they really shouldn't post on a public web forum.

Thomanns have these in stock now but the price is £867. Thats about what i paid for a MIA this time last year. Its also £200 dearer than the 50's version.

She can certainly play but that clip, at least, left me feeling just how bland that type of playing it. She is a women so she stands out a bit from the crowd (fact, not a sexist remark) but her playing doesn't. She is certainly no Gail Ann Dorsey IMO.

[quote name='Green Alsatian' post='1309096' date='Jul 19 2011, 01:27 PM']Probably the shop mentioned in this SOS article. I had a Crumar Bit One and had wondered why some of them on eBay were labelled 'Chase' until I read the article: [url="http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug98/articles/crumar.html"]http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug98/articles/crumar.html[/url] I don't know the shop, being a Northerner.[/quote] Yes, thats the shop, i also had a Bit one from them. I was mixing up the name of the manufacture with the name of the shop. Cheers. Another bit of my past has fallen in to place.

Wasn't Chase a Synth shop down the side of Euston station, run by an Indian chap? Oh, ugly basses :-)

Dont forget the slap bass solo in Bo Rap ;-)

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='1308980' date='Jul 19 2011, 12:05 PM']Not many shops out there that would appreciate someone playing loud, heavy rock through a variety of 500W amps into a Barefaced cab just to see what it sounds like when playing on their own, with no band around them to supply a mix. @ the OP, you'd be better off trying to borrow (or rent) amps from other local BC-ers for single gigs to see which one comes closest to what you want.[/quote] The good one's wont mind if someone takes a cab in. No need to play at full volume.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1308960' date='Jul 19 2011, 11:39 AM']A visit to the shops is in order me thinks. Try some out & see if you can return if not happy. You could always buy 2nd hand off here & if you're not happy with what you get, swap for something else.[/quote] Good advice, and ill add take your own cab to the shop to get a better idea of how the amps sound.

Yep, best of luck. Hope it goes well.

Nice one, looking forward to your views.

Having owned a SA450 and LMII for a few years, and now having a F1 and GB Streamliner i would say the F1/F500 might not be ideal, based on the needs stated. All great heads but the LMII/III are a bit warmer and thicker than the F1/F500. There isnt a lot in it but its definitely there. The statement about the LMII/III not seeming to give the same power output is right IMO, but the key word is seemingly. As Mark suggested, have a look in to the GB Streamliner as well. I have a Streamliner 600 and it sounds like it might be ideal. Its has 3 tubes and a very thick, but not muddy low end. What struck me when i first played mine was how much punch it produced on the higher notes. Its very articulated compared to the MB heads, and having played both F1 and Streamliner on a couple of gigs (1 per set) the Streamliner just seems to fill the mix out, it had more presence. It also has a nice smooth overdrive if needed, with nothing digital sounding about it, although i only use that on a few songs and its no replacement for a distortion pedal.