dave_bass5

Two threads already on this subject. And its not out yet :-( The software is due out this month and the plug next month according to the website.

Cheers Dan. Im not really too worried, it more ive made a few bad judgement calls recently and so im a bit paranoid about buying anything untested at the moment. funny enough all of my non gig playing will be through headphones but ill not worry about the what if's. Im really looking forward to getting them. Normally i would have got some Fralins but im trying to cut down on the spending, im surprised at how cheap the Wizards are. Cheers for the scatterwound info. That all makes sense now. I do have the neck pup down a bit and the balence between both when both are on is nice. Probably nicer than my old HW1 but i do find the bridge pup a bit lacking compared to my old HW1 pup. Im sure that will be cured with the new pups.

[quote name='bh2' post='867055' date='Jun 14 2010, 02:33 PM']A set of these will look the biz on your new CV Jazz... [/quote] They are on the cards. Pups and strap locks this week then ill see how it goes. I must admit i dont think i really need to upgrade them yet. when i took the bass out at the gig it was perfectly in tune and didn't go out all night.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='865680' date='Jun 13 2010, 03:09 AM']I get over this predicament by trying to only own 1 bass at a time. That way I don't have to think about what bass to take as iI only have one. I've never been one for having a bass for this and a bass for that. Personally, if I can't do everything on the bass I have strapped on at that particular moment in time then the bass isn't good enough.[/quote] Thats my thoughts as well. I only ever gig one bass, and its always the one ive just brought. If iv'e gone out and brought a new bass then it becomes my main (and only gigging ) Bass. Until the next one comes along. I guess part of this is to do with not driving so i have to get on a tube, so taking 2 or three basses is out of the question. We also dont really use set lists so when the singer calls out the next song i need to be ready. Too many time my guitarist has been caught out without a guitar strapped on (he HAS to take 3 to each gig). Ive not come a cross a bass that i cant play every song on. Sure, some might fit the music better than others but im sure the audience dont care and neither do i. As long as i like the tone i have and the bass plays well then thats the ideal bass for all our songs. Any bass i buy is purely because i fancy a change or im bored, never because i have to have it for a song etc. I can understand others doing it though, and certainly in a recording studio so im not putting anyone down, its just not for me. Saying all that, i do have the OP's dilemma when it comes to taking cameras/lenses out. But thats another story.

Thanks shambo. As im replacing squier pups im hoping the Wizards will be a bigger improvement. I do like the idea of more detail in the highs but im sure it will be there. I gues si can always mix and match. Im finding the bridge pup to be a bit lacking bite and volume and the neck pup to be quite full and round. Maybe i could just add one 84 at the back if i don't like the overal tone with both in.

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='866921' date='Jun 14 2010, 12:22 PM']So I'm kinda like, if I have to do it, I'd rather have a Fender just so I'm not getting a copy of the bass I once hated so much haha. But if I do get a Squier, I'll have to at least label it as a Fender, just for my own justification. [/quote] I must admit im a bit nervious about having Squier on my CVJ. Its not so much me, as i know the bass is great but if other musicians see it they might not take me seriously. Then again, if i had a MIM i would probably want a MIA sticker over it lol.

Cheers Dan. That all makes good sense and i feel i have made the right choice. Clarity without the clank is ideal. Although i dont normally cut any top end on the amp (i turn off the tweeter in the cab) i do watch out for it. Due to the way i rest the side of hand of the bridge i can sometimes get too much attack (although its fine on my Ray34). I have enquired with Andy if its possible to have less of a dark tone without anything else being effected but its not a deal breaker and the order will stand. Ill go and look up scatterwound as its not something i have heard of before but it sound sliek a good thing.

Well ive ordered a set of 84's so i guess this thread has done its job. Cheers again. So how do i put them in lol (just kidding).

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='866815' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:44 AM']Now there's an option that I don't know why I didn't think of. We have a Farida hollowbodied telecaster in at the shop and it's an amazing instrument for the price. Don't particularly like the bottom horn, but I've heard that they make Fenders, so it's more than possible they're just Fenders with a bit extra shaping done. Thanks for that post, Tony. Very useful. I'll be ringing a couple of places later today to see if they have the VMJ and CVJ in to A/B them. Then I'd just need to replace the decal with a proper Fender one. hehehe [/quote] I found the CV Jazz to be pretty hard to find last week. In fact i only found two shops online that had any stock.

[quote name='Mr Fudge' post='866818' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:48 AM']I hate actives but these give you a little edge and output on the stock fenders.[/quote] This has sold me on the 84's. I was just getting in to using a BD21 (Sansamp) with my HW1 jazz when i sold it and got a Sub (and then a Ray34). ive been enjoying using Active for that extra bit of growl but also missing the more traditional bass tone (Jazz and P). I know not to expect an active tone but i get what you mean and this will be ideal. Not sure i really want more aggressive but i guess it comes with the higher output and would come in handy. Johnny. I might give that a go. Its not something ive done before but i got this bass to mod and that seems like a popular one to to. Cheers all.

Cheers all. Im going to wait until next week before i do anything. The bass was fine at sat's gig so i want to use it a bit more to see if it really needs doing before deciding on what method i use to shield it. Paint in the cavity looks like the way to go though and then maybe some foil/tape on the back of the control plate. Im not sure yet. Im hoping to get some new pups for it this or next week so i might take the opportunity to shield the pup cavity's while i have it open. Then again, im pretty impatient so might not bother unless i really do have a problem.

Cheers.

Cheers for the reply. Im sure the 84's are going to work fine, ive never liked the highs being too prominent on a Jazz as i play with a pick and dont like the extra attack. Saying that, i dont want a bass heavy, slightly muffled tone and whirl im sure this isnt going to happen i have it stuck in my head that it could.

Im all set to order a set of Wizards for my CV Jazz. Ive had emails from Andy and based on what im asking for, he has recommended the 84's. I tend to agree with him but im just wondering if anyone has any comments to make about the difference in these two pups. Are the 64's brighter but at the expense of less punch? I like the idea of more low end but dont want to get too muddy. Im playing mainstream covers, and my cab has loads of mid punch already so i would prefer a smoother tone, but also as close to a P as i can get (i know i wont get too close). Cheers.

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='866363' date='Jun 13 2010, 08:19 PM']That'd be if I could find one second hand anyway hehe, they don't seem to crop up regularly.[/quote] You could get a brand new CVJ for £250, thts under your original budget. That would leave you enough for a set of pups. I agree with bh2, the Squier bridge is fine and can see no reason to replace it.

[quote name='fender73' post='866051' date='Jun 13 2010, 03:37 PM']+1 - i have nothing but praise for the CV basses[/quote] Add me to the list. Im also a new CV Jazz owner. This time last year i was playing a USA Fender P5, then i went to a Lakalnd DJ5, sold that and got a Lakland Duck Dunn, sold that and am now more than happy to be playing the Squier. I do have a Ray34 but i cant see that getting used much now, although i will keep it as a back up. Ive only done one gig so far with it but its the first bass ive had in the past three years that has made me smile when i first plugged it in. Its not perfect of course, and personally i can feel its a cheap bass, but ive also had basses that cost over £1000 and those havent been perfect either. Its the playability and price that i love, plus its the right white for me. There are no flaws at all in the finish as far as i can see, and i love the gloss neck. I am upgrading the pups but thats more to do with wanting a different tone rather than anything wrong with the tone i already have. As people have already said, its a good bass to mod if you dont like anything on it as the initial outlay is pretty low. @Rich. I didnt realise about the different pup spacing, although i have read mention of 60's and 70's layouts but never bothered finding out what the difference is, so thanks for that info. Very handy to know.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='865996' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:43 PM']Hey Dave, By the description of the neck, you just need to do an eighth to a quarter turn anti clockwise on the trussrod. Sounds like it needs a little more relief. Technically, you should have a little more give at the twelfth compared with the 20th & 1st, giving the slightest of curves as you look down the neck edge from the tuning end. Jazz necks seem to settle happiest when you just have that slight bit of relief in them. I've had to learn all of this via trial and error in the last few years, as my Status necks never move a millimetre![/quote] Cheers Rich, ill give it ago. I must admit the neck is almost straight so maybe i went a bit over the top with my set up. To be honest the Nordstrands are out of my budget. Im pretty set on a pair of Wizards.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='865962' date='Jun 13 2010, 02:21 PM']So was I right then, Dave? [/quote] Yep, spot on Rich. nice one. At no point during the gig did i think i was playing a £250 bass. It will be nice to play on a proper stage next week, it was so boomy on stage i felt i was holding back too much. So great bass but poor acoustics. Only thing im not 100% with is if i should shim the neck. I have the action pretty much as i want it. 2mm at the 12th fret and the bridge saddles are in a good position but the action seems ot increase quite a bit pass the 12 fret, finishing up at 3mm. Im wondering if shimming with even out the action a bit. And i still need ot decide what pups to put in. Im sure Wizard 84's would work (and Andy has recommended them based on what i asked him) but im still not sure about the dirty term used. I prefer a smoother tone.

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='865239' date='Jun 12 2010, 02:51 PM']Just checked this to make sure before I posted this ..... If you do an e -bay search for conductive paint, you will find a number of options available. Conductive Graphite paint normally does the job and is way easier than copper tape. T[/quote] Cheers for that. I'll look in to the paint. Do you know if I would need a base coat of some sort or do I just paint it straight on to the wood? Just got back from the gig and to be honest noise was a non issue, although I think I'll still try and shield it in case i play somewhere that has bad lighting etc.

I giged my new CV Jass last night. Very impressed with it. It was a boomy stage but I got a nice off stage tone. I'll be getting some wizards for it this week but only becuase I want a slightly punchier tone, I could live with these pups if I had to.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='865164' date='Jun 12 2010, 01:18 PM']I'm down with the foil too, although I use sheets rather than tape so there are less joins. I think you can be more sure that you have 100% coverage with foil + you can just solder each cavity to earth it.[/quote] you lost me at that last point lol. Thanks all, it seems like as i have the tape i might as well give it a go first, and if not ill try some of this foil. I know the type you guys mean and there is an art shop nearby. Im pretty lazy so i might start off with just the cavity, and do the control plate later. I plan on upgrading the pups soon anyway so ill see how this first stage goes. It might even be the pups that are more the issue. Im off to Wales for a gig soon and wont be back until this time tomorrow so ill not have any internet. I do plan on doing a good search for any guides etc (even though i know its pretty straight forward) but if any of you do have a favourite link it will be much appreciated. Have a good weekend all.

I want to try and shield my CV Jazz a bit. Its earthed fine but a bit noisier when i back one of the pups off than my other Jazz basses that ive owned. Its not a big deal but i thought i'd try and give shielding a go for the first time. So, i figured pain might be easier than tape but i dont really know what to look for. Maplins is just down the road so i was hoping i could pick something up from them. I had thought about copper tape (and i do have a roll) but not sure if it will stick to the walls of the cavity. Anything i need to watch out for etc? Cheers.

[quote name='renniks' post='853134' date='May 31 2010, 11:55 PM']Lets hope I can come to this stage sooner rather than later, from the consensus it would seem the logical route is to find my favourite fender, buy a few more, realise the fender was what I wanted, and use it.[/quote] Yep, ive done the USA Fenders, Laklands (4) and now back to a Squier and couldn't be happier (for now). Could have saved myself a good few £1000 over the past few years.

[quote name='philbillbass' post='864315' date='Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM']how did i miss that off! i hav the hammers[/quote] Cheers. They sound good.

[quote name='philbillbass' post='864308' date='Jun 11 2010, 01:29 PM']Wel i have some wizards in my mex jazz and did some samples so you can here them, they are very rough samples as i just plugged my bass into my laptop and recorded them but its better than nothing! In my opinion they are plenty bright enough for the rock band i'm in! I have some labella flats on it just so you know. [attachment=51883:fender_labella.wma] [attachment=51884:fender__...a_random.wma][/quote] Cheers for posting those. what model do you have?