dave_bass5

At the moment im bouncing between a MM SUb and my Duck Dunn. For my style of music (covers/weddings/functions, played with a pick) either works well. In my limited experience with my Sub i would say its got a few more tones in it than my DD but the DD seems to just work without fuss. I need to be careful with the EQ on the Sub as its quite powerful and can be quite toppy but its nice ot know i can get that tone if i need it. A few days ago i was ready to give up the DD and get a Ray but now im not so sure.

Ive asked tihs question before but never got a conclusive answer. It makes sense that it could be active but i ended up using the passive input on my Ashdown amp (at the time). My current amps dont have a choice, so i just keep an eye on the input level, and i dont run the receiver flat out. It seems to work. As Banki says, just go with what sounds right.

I loved TI's on my HW1. This was the first time i had ever used flats and we did our first demo with them. They were so easy to record. I also loved them on my HW-One P but after a while i missed the overtones etc you get from rounds. I found Chromes to be a good middle ground as far as tone goes but i think once i get my MM bass sorted out im going to put some Ti's on my DD. I just love how soft they feel and are very easy to play. As far as setting the action up goes i found this video to be really helpful. when i had "our" P5 i just used the Fender spec's (from the Mr Gearhead site) rather than the Lakland specs at first, but found the Lakland spec to work just as well, and gave me a lower action. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIzV9462xeE"]Bass Set up[/url]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='776255' date='Mar 16 2010, 01:41 PM']Cheers for this! In this clip, I have a preference to the 3EQ....it sounds HUGE. They both sound great but the 3EQ does it for me on this one.[/quote] I have to agree with this. I also prefer the 3EQ in these new clips yet the 2EQ in the first. I guess its down to the low end boost in these new ones. It does show that either will do a great job. Thnaks for doing these Michael. It doesn't help, just makes it more confusing lol.

It was me that posted the first thread about these videos but it never hurts for more people to see them. I found the straight edge tip to be a great help. I was never really sure how to check the relief before i saw this video.

[quote name='throwoff' post='776173' date='Mar 16 2010, 12:47 PM']Im going to chuck a curveball into the mix now G&L tribute basses are made by Cort in the Far East. To many this would not be an issue but I personally would have a hard time justifying the cost of a Tribute when a Cort is so much cheaper.[/quote] So are Lakland skylines and they cost even more money. just saying.

Cheers Michael. Sorry to hear about your daughter, hope its nothing serious. Kids are great for getting time off work though aren't they. My son has had a couple of days off with colds etc recently, funny that it always fall on a gig day ;-). Ive been having lots of bad bass days over the past 6 months. Days when i just cant get a decent tone out of anything. Unfortunately i have made a few rash decisions on these days. Im a lot happier now, mainly down to the Sub. I do understand what your saying about the 2EQ being more 2D and its this that make it sound closer to a P. And its a bit simpler as well. Im not really after a bass with loads of tone options, at gigs i find it doesn't make a huge difference. The main thing is a nice solid tone. I think all your clips show either basses can get this this but after a bit of a read i now realise the 2EQ goes a bit deeper, as Duarte said. This is probably why im liking it more than i thought i would. Its certainly not got that cutting, clanky tone i was dreading. I find my Sub fills the same space in the mix as my DD but the Sub also has an edge to it that seems to help it poke through a bit, without having to resort to tuning the treble up. And with the bass all the way up, treble all the way down and played finger style over the neck i get a really nice tone for our rock and roll numbers. My DD cant get close to that and both basses have the same strings on them. Like you i dont slap but do have a little tug and pop every now and then and it was probably me but i couldn't get the tone i thought i would out of it. I guess a lot of the differences can be ironed out with some EQ adjustment on the amp anyway but these clips have shown the true differences. Thanks again for doing them. Ill PM you later with some other thoughts, dont want to hijack this thread too much.

[quote name='Duarte' post='776042' date='Mar 16 2010, 10:12 AM']Well for a start I never touch the mid knob (why I own 3 Bongos each with 2 mid knobs is anyone's guess....) but I also just prefer the subtle differences in the tone over that of the 3EQ. I'm talking those tiny differences you hear. Also I like how there are no detents, you just kind of turn the knobs until it sounds good, without being influenced by whether it is flat or not. The 2EQ also puts out more lower frequencies. It is literally subsonic in that respect, it goes down to 20hz rather than the 3EQ's 50hz. Not really such a big deal, I just prefer it's entire vibe. Plus, it looks cooler with the output jack on the front.[/quote] Cheers for that. I have edited my post above as ive now read some of that thread. Very interesting. I guess each has its pros and cons. Im starting to like my 2EQ Sub more than my DD these days and maybe thats down to it being a 2EQ. I must investigate the 3EQ a bit more.

[quote name='Duarte' post='776018' date='Mar 16 2010, 09:47 AM']There is a thread over on the EBMM forum which shows the differences between many different models here: [url="http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-basses/42214-stingray-sound-examples.html"]http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-...d-examples.html[/url] Personally, I reckon the HH is the best, if only it came in 2EQ...[/quote] Cool, thanks for that. Ive been looking on that site for a few days, working my way through some of the posts. This saves me some time. Those clips are the same riff's used on the Lakland website aren't they? Ive always liked those sound clips. Can i ask why you want a 2 band EQ over a 3EQ? what cant the 3EQ give that the 2 can? Im only asking as im thinking about going from my Sub to either a 2EQ SR4 or a 3EQ Ray34. EDIT: I think that link explains why a lot of people prefer the 2EQ versions so i guess that answers my question above. I can now see why people say to get a 2EQ to get closer to a P.

Yeah, as long as everyone chips in its not so bad. Its when one person decides he has to go to the toilet for 30mins while its all getting done that annoys me. Especially as im done in a 5 mins myself. I must admit i tend to back off carrying any guitarist related stuff these days if i can. Happy to carry the PA etc because we all use it but no one, other than the drummer, has ever taken my gear out to the car. And its the lightest. I guess that leads nicely in to the fact that you all have to get on in a band etc etc. Luckily we all do to a certain extent. We have fun and do enjoy most of the gigs. If its a crappy social club we make the best of it. Even if the gigs not going well we have a laugh between sets (or even between songs, and that hacks me off ;-) End of the day i'm now playing covers for the money. If I didnt get paid I probably wouldn't do it but personally i would feel the same about originals as well. Im in my 40's and have spent a lot of money over the years, and wasted a lot of time. Ive never wanted to really make it big time, ive always valued a steady income from a day job but have always enjoyed gigging. Now its nice to be getting some of that money back, doing what i enjoy and playing songs i enjoy, and that include Mustang Sally.

Cheers Michael. So are you keeping the 2EQ? I really like the tone in all the clips. The first two are great and the 2 EQ one is pretty close to what im getting with my Sub. Any chance you can do another pick one with the 3 EQ boosted a little, something that sounds a bit meatier. Its the 3 Band EQ im more interested in as i dont have one. If ive got this right the 2 EQ is flat with both knobs turned down. How does that compare to your ears with the 3EQ flat? Should they be the same, more or less). Like you i find it a bit confusing not having any markings on the 2EQ knobs. But then i tend to run the bass almost right up. Keep up the good work, its been very helpful to a lot of people.

[quote name='Bigwan' post='775952' date='Mar 16 2010, 08:33 AM']walk in and, more importantly, out at the end of the night with your 'rig' in one hand.......[/quote] .....and get black looks from your band mates when you go and sit in the car while they carry the rest of the back line and PA out lol. My one trip rig is pointless as well all carry whatever needs carrying, and thats everything. In fact even my quick setup is wasted as i then have to do something else rather than go to the bar. Bloody guitarists with their 2 amps and 3 guitars each :-(

Cheese is in the eye of the beholder IMO. BJ were one of, if not the biggest band in the world during SWW and NJ period, hardly cheese. Takes all sorts i guess.

[quote name='Malc62' post='775563' date='Mar 15 2010, 07:23 PM']And think twice about "Angels".[/quote] 5 or so years ago you HAD to play Angels at most of our gigs. Now no one wants it, and in fact we had it written in to our of our contracts that we wouldn't play it. Same with any Robbie stuff really.