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Not many J/M's out there and even fewer that switch to a J.J. So, 'cos the name's not fashionable, I reckon my GB74 - see pic on left - is a bit of a top end Skoda Octavia, but not the VRS. Open E and A; think of the keyboard generated bass from "Bohemian LIke you" by the Dandy Warhols. Balcro.

Sorry to feed your addiction, but I'm a bit like Ed_S above, except for violin read 12 years of piano and choir singing, so I have that tuned-in ear and can read music and now tab. So I'm using all three together. As I don't gig I have no need to concern myself with what the next note will be, I'm just learning a line. I can usually find what fits.......eventually. Balcro.

Hi PauBass, This link might help you decide on a choice of strings - just scroll down and try the 4 "flats" sound samples. [url="http://www.atkinsonbasses.com/library/"]http://www.atkinsonbasses.com/library/[/url] Balcro,

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1235660' date='May 18 2011, 01:27 PM']It is what it is - good time foot stomping hollering jump joint music! Who cares if it's not strictly authentic, or SS is jumping on a band wagon. He enjoys, he makes money, the crowd love it, everyone is happy! You're all miserable buggers on here :lol: And, I could hear JPJ okay - admittedly the headphones were cranked though ;)[/quote] Got it in 1 I'd say. Yes, bass was there but very low. Just a bit 'o fun for JPJ. Classic Skankdelvar line in the post above. Balcro.

Sorry Bubinga5, Johnston and HappyJack got there before me. Eee, (nerd stuff) Alan Lancaster playing through an Acoustic 361. Haven't seen that before. Must get out more. Anyway, gave it a try, but not my taste. Balcro.

So the OP set out to generate a little controversy. Succeeded didn't he. There must obviously be an element of psycho-acoustics involved, as we all have "that sound" in our heads. We've remembered something from from days of yore. And it was good (biblical, not a grammatical and). Fashions in sound change like clothes but over a much longer period of time. Compared with the 60's and 70's, the trendy sound has moved from a vinyl to a CD sound. It's certainly less boomy, but at the same time the idea is still to have plenty of "welly". I think that is what Alex was saying. If you can achieve the same ends with a weight reduction, so be it. I really don't see it as better or worse, it's just different. If you change just one element of a loudspeaker/cabinet, then the sound will change. Change the shape of the box, put fewer baraces inside, change the thickness of the wood or change from 18mm Baltic Birch to Poplar or MDF, each and every design change will produce a change in sound. They all resonate differently and are transparent to different wavelengths of sound. Neodymium for magnets. Shame about the Chinese securing control of the bulk of the world supply. A great weight saver. I've no idea why they might sound different, but ferrite pick-up cores seem to produce a different sound to Alnico. Anyone got any ideas? When you've gone through all that upheaval to save your back, you can go out and buy an effects unit with "loudspeaker modelling" pre-sets in order to put you back where you started. Huh! [i]alexclaber- Ironically I've never really cared how much cabs weigh, indeed I've been known to voluntarily lift heavy things in the name of exercise - but it's gratifying that those with knackered backs or other ailments can keep gigging because our cabs happen to be light. But the goal has always been real bottom, not that fake compressed and technically distorted mid-bass that so many smaller rigs use to try to fill the bottom with varying degrees of success.[/i] I couldn't agree more. Balcro.

Yep, that's the one. ticks all the boxes. That's why I bought a '74. Enjoy. Balcro.

I hope all goes well. Best of luck. Balcro.

Hi OzzyGreg, Further to what Phil Starr said I had a bit of a play around with winISD and the unsuitability of these drivers is confirmed. No useful bass output below 80Hz and as Phil said, it drops off dramaticaly. Power handling at 50Hz is as little as 25watts. No wonder they farted out! Most 10" and 12" [u]bass guitar[/u] speakers (not a P.A bass speaker) will have a "Fo" ( also written as "Fs") of 36 - 46Hz. I agree with what Phil Starr said about Celestion drivers, they do have high Fs's. If you can get the drivers changed, come back to the Forum and ask for more advice before parting with any more dollars. Balcro.

[quote name='BB3000S' post='1216490' date='May 1 2011, 12:32 PM']F0 = 70Hz is too high for bass, as been said that's more the lower level for a midrange driver.[/quote] Agreed. Looks like a PA speaker. The power rating is also confusing: "Program power" is not RMS. You should only be using the long term power figure of 130 watts. Are the speakers branded Etone or Eton? Balcro.

That 20Hz is meaningless. It's probably 30dB lower in output than the output level at 50Hz. If you hang a bare loudspeaker drive unit in a test chamber and put a signal through it will produce sound down to a point of "resonance". Even the best entertainment type bass speakers will only "resonate" at about 28-40Hz. Stick the same unit inside a box and the "resonance point" rises to well over 40Hz. So 20Hz is not realizable in any practical way. Hartke is selling by specification. The Hartke will probably make "a good fist" of getting to 40-45Hz, but don't expect more. Reggae or dub does not especially go to a lower frequency than other types of music, but is confined in a narrow band below 125Hz and then it is compressed to give the characteristic dull thud. It's all about the balance of the sound from low bass to mids. The Acme Low B1 only puts out 90dB for 1 watt of input signal. The Hartke claims 98dB for the same signal input. In the absence of lots of techhy data you can only assume that the Hartke is a little louder than the Acme (ignore the 8dB). However the Acme may well have a more extended low bass response. Balcro.

This clip is quite informative - [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5R3rUoU58"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5R3rUoU58[/url] Stringbusters can get this brand, even if they don't display every single variation. Send an e-mail to customer support.

[quote name='dan670844' post='1183785' date='Mar 31 2011, 07:48 PM']Tone of the bass, Maybe it was a bit to do with the amps...... just a theory, Americans used Beam tetrode in bass amps 6550 (Ampeg) 6L6 (Fender) most of the UK amps of the time used EL34's a Pentode. I have always thought the ole E34 was pretty sh*te for bass as it has a saggy bottom, that lacks definition at the lo end and the high end, . Good for guitar though. Probably totally wrong, but I love the sound of old Bassmans and SVT and B15's. Feel free to get the cheese grater out on my theory though!!!![/quote] Ah! so that explains it. The English soft bass and the drier faster attack with stronger fundamental of the American gear. I can remember back to about '67 & on to 74 and wondered why it sounded different. Marshall ruled the roost back then but if you couldn't afford Marshall then it was Sound City. If you had some cash to spare you used Orange or Hi-Watt. Balcro.

Thanks for that. I checked those out early last year when I was casting around for a new bass. Gear4 music weren't stocking them then, but I ended up with something of a not totally dissimilar mix. Now I'm an ash body convert. Ah! Loose tuners. Something else to check out when you get the buzzes! With an ash body and the Ibanez neck, I bet it's very light and easy to play. Enjoy. Balcro.

Hello MUF's The amp rating at 4 and 8 ohms indicates it's happy to work with either resistance. So any 4 or 8ohm cabinet of your choice, but not lower than 4ohms. The wattage ratings are based on a thermal characteristics. Therefore I would play safe by giving the speaker a little headroom to cope with the inevitable abuse. So an 8ohm cabinet at 300w and upwards, or a 4ohm cabinet at 500w and upwards. I'm old school on this. If it were me, I'd look at 400+ watts for an 8ohm cab and 600+ at 4ohms. A higher wattage rating on the cab does [u]not[/u] mean it will be louder than one of a lower wattage rating. Balcro.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1156195' date='Mar 10 2011, 08:07 AM']I'd go for more seperation in the kit, but guess you can't do that. It gets buried under the gtr, IMV Vocals down a touch. Bass with a tad more low end and gtrs down in the main track.[/quote] An opinion from an oldie. As JTUK says + a bit of octaver in the bass and as there appears to be echo/delay on parts of the vocals, why not try counterbalancing that with echo/delay on the bass. Don't octaver & delay all the way through but "a bit here and a bit there". Balcro.

[quote name='silddx' post='1156790' date='Mar 10 2011, 04:19 PM']You always get this on here! People yapping about gear and tone and technique and Mark King vs Flea, Jaco's God, etc. all day, but if you post a clip or a video, you get one comment per 20 downloads or views. I think we have to accept that most people don't really know how to describe music at all, despite them rabidly describing everything else under the sun, slagging off Phil Collins and Alain Caron and whathaveyer. As soon they are asked for a REAL critique of someone closer to home they suddenly bugger off, at a loss for words and opinion, or uninterested. Funny that. I find it sad. A forum for musicians and hardly anyone bothers to comment on the actual MUSIC people bother to record and post up here asking for opinion.[/quote] Guilty as charged in scrolling past the "Recording" section. It's rare that I look in there apart once in a while at the "technique" sub-forum. I always assumed it was about recording techniques and the like. As I'm not thinking of recording anything I usually pass by. If I'd seem some standout word like "Audacity" in the last-post box, then I might drop in. I find myself agreeing with LowEndBee and purpleblob on the first page. For example, I looked up "urb's" recordings a couple of months ago, but found the musical content to be on another planet as far as I was concerned. So I couldn't possibly comment. Similarly, I looked at Clarky's new video - mmm? Well, a bit odd/weird. Could have done with the bass higher in the mix. Again, musically not my cup of tea, but hey, this stuff is out there. I wouldn't want to comment because my words would have been prejudiced by my feelings about the music. However, if it's something subjective such as tone or a sound comparison, then I will often respond, such as to your recent Jap Jazz soundclip in the General section. Balcro.

Nice clips Silldx. As I'm not a fan of single malts, I'd say that was like a nicely rounded port or madeira. Is there a touch of reverb in there? Balcro.

First Bass: Encore Coaster Bass - Precision Copy. "Go To" Bass: Cort GB74. My Bass: Cort GB74. Balcro.

If you want the lower end of the market, try my bass, the Cort GB74. Not the last word in sonic excellence but has a real variety of sounds available because of the 3-way switchable coils and a low-mid boost switch. Add to that the volume switch also acts as an active/passive push-pull. For sound samples, check out youtube for GB74/75/94 and there are a few more examples on wikizic.org Balcro.

[quote name='iconic' post='1113413' date='Feb 3 2011, 07:45 AM']Dar dar daaa that's by Trio isn't it ;) different spelling cos das ist foreigner's[/quote] Thanks for that tip. This rookie nailed the bass line by the end of the video. Balcro.

Sounds like you've got plenty of grit and determination. Good on yer! Just by way of nothing and an idea that's been getting to me 'cos I keep watching TV commercials and hearing this song again and again - it's been on at least twice tonight. What is that song? I don't know; do you know what it is; No. Dar dar daaa, listen to the music, dar de dar dar dar..... Had to "Ask" it just now - Doobie Bros. Aahhh. A bit more country than the Average White Band, but similar era and really crafted. Give it try. Balcro.

I'm home based and just 63; 4-string and finger-style. Once in a while I meet up with a friend who's really a folky guitarist, so obviously that feels limiting, 'cos I'm inclined play all sorts of stuff from Rock to Motown to blues, whatever catches my ear. As a youngster I sang in church and school choirs and learned piano so I can read music. Now I've added tab ( the latter seems easier with the bass), but I mainly use my ears when listening to learn. Because you never hear it right first time, you have to do it again and again - more of challenge that way. Then in a random post, along comes a more advanced Basschatter and says (to someone else)" don't forget the twiddly rundown from the chorus...". Whaaat?! May my hands fall into acid if I ever start slapping 'n poppin'. No bass musical influences or brand loyalty, so I don't want anyone's particular sound or style. When I can play "Crossroads" as well as Jack Bruce's original, I'll be happy. Balcro, or as BurritoBass would have it, Fat Sugar Hopkins.

I used them once and it was a positive experience. Bought my Cort from there and a gig-bag. They quoted up to 7 days for my choice of delivery and it arrived in 6. Customer service, when enquiring about guarantee, was polite and in good English. Purhase outside the UK ( change of buying pattern) prompted a call from my credit card company - good. They send follow-up e-mails about once a month. No problem Balcro.

Oh, it's him again. I first heard of Russ Andrews about 35 years ago. In those days he was just another hi-fi dealer who happened to get involved with the design and marketing of a product called the Nytech receiver (tuner-amp). It had great reviews. I've still got the tuner half downstairs in the cupboard. It's called an Edinburgh Wireless Co. tuner. cost me £100 in 1976. I forgot about hi-fi in the early 80's but he didn't. He's been peddling this sort of stuff for years. Completely wacky over-the-top nonsense, but it must sell, presumably to America and now the Middle East. Probably a multi millionaire by now. One day he'll probably market a product that's been cleaned with a pulse of nuclear energy. Balcro