MrPring
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Hopefully he can chime in with his thoughts! I'm going ampless and on in ears soon so would be more for that 🤠
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Nice one Jimmy! We'll have our own desk, probably will just use the house mics apart from we'll supply out own vocal mics to keep that consistent. Bigger shows we'll have our own engineer as well but only FOH. I have stupidly been researching the Fake Plastic Trees by Audio Kitchen and now I'm thinking of getting one of those and The Small Trees Di 🤣
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Brilliant guys that's great news. Thanks for sharing your opinions.
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Morning lads. Going completely ampless from July when we head off on tour for our next shows. Currently putting together an iem rig (thanks to @EBS_freakfor his amazing thread and advice) and now looking to get the 'ampless' part. Anyone doing similar i.e going straight to FOH/ears using one of these? I've seen some use other DIs and Darkglass Elements etc but ideally id like a really simple setup of tuner>preamp(DI) >FOH as my originals band is pretty one dimensional in terms of the tone I need and I'll just need to set and forget. I've had the VT Bass in the past I've loved (when going through a non SVT) and an actual SVT Skunkworks head through a Berg 4x12 but unfortunately our days of big festival stages and >600 cap venues are over plus who can be f***ed lugging big rigs about in their 40s without a road crew. I've also heard great things from the line 6 Helix online for bass. Would love to hear the experiences of those using the super vintage or the '64 playing on iems. Thanks 🤝🏼
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No worries homie, funds ready if you wanna deal 🤓 -
Nice pedals! Would you take £100 for the element? Can transfer the funds immediately. Cheers Rob
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Thicko alert 🙋♂️ How do you send a stereo signal from say an xr18 to a p2. Do I need to buy like a 2 XLR female to stereo TRS? Edit: Just found this site which explains it... http://silentsky.net/wordpress/archives/930 As you were.
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My guy! I'm definitely still considering the p16m but that might be an future upgrade once I get the system up and running. One question though on daisy chaining. Presumably I can just run 1 cat5 from the xr18 into the first p16m and then 'thru' to the next and so on and they can have their own dedicated mix?
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Nice one Gaz. That's good to hear about the low end not being overpowering.
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Also seem to have narrowed down my ciem search to the 64 audio a4s. Have got LUGS as a fallback but like the idea of a dynamic driver in there for that bottom end. Anyone any experience with LUGS or the 64 audio model (or the n8).
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After a million YouTube and reddit rabbit holes think I've sussed what I'm going to do. P1 velcro'd to our pedalboards for those wanting stereo (me). 2 xlr each ran from the monitor rack next to drum riser to pedalboards. If mono, I'm going to create a loom with a trs and xlr going from guitar amp to pedalboard. trs for amp to pedalboard and xlr from aux out on monitor to P1 on the board. Then another loom that's headphone extension cable and trs to plug into my bass (stereo iem mix). For the other 2 (guitars) they can have a shorter xlr combined with their guitar cable which will go to their p2 they'll wear on their belts. I reckon I'm gonna go ampless first, they might take some more convincing.
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Thanks. Guess I'm just more worried about the practicalities of getting the wired signal from our IEM rack which will be next to the drumkit to our ears. I'm 100% on how to provide splits to FOH and have been on the same bill with several bands who do this (including silent stage types) but they've all been wireless. Just looking for advice or tales of people doing either of the following: 1) running xlrs/trs cables from outputs of xr18 to each of the 3 of us at the front of the stage for plugging into a p1/2 2) running cat 5 from the ultranet out of the xr18 then into a p16m for each person at the front then some sort of headphone extension/instrument dual cable setup. Hope that is a bit clearer? Appreciate all the help!
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How's it going gang? Keep coming back to this thread as its filled with gold now that we're getting closer to getting back gigging and moving to IEMs. One question I haven't seen specifically answered is what I'm looking to do with a wired IEM set up (apologies if I've missed this)... 4 piece originals band, 2x gtrs, bass, drums, 4 vocals and 16 inputs to FOH so thinking an Xr18 as the desk. We wouldn't be controlling FOH from our rack, solely for our ears. We're still using 'real' amps but I'd like to experiment with going down the ampless route as stage volume was pretty ridiculous. Instruments are wired and as we're getting older we're not jumping into the crowd or moving about as much on the stage as we used to so thinking of going wired for IEMs and rigging up a custom cable containing instrument cable and xlr/s for a p1/2 probably. We used the powerplay p16 when in the studio to sort our monitor mixes and could you replicate this live with ultranet or would you be better controlling your own monitor mix through an app on your phone than having a powerplay mounted on your pedalboard? Thinking it would be easier having cat5 running around the stage than long headphone cable or xlr runs? Anyone doing anything similar to this? If wired would we be better getting a racked 4xheadphone amp and going from there? Or sticking with individual? Think there's the behringer HA8000 we could run headphone extenders from but then lose the ability to alter the volume on the fly if we've got an individual belt pack amp. Venue wise we're not going to be playing massive stages, probably biggest would be 5mx5m so guess long cable runs wouldn't be a factor? Would be looking to spend the bulk of the budget on better custom IEMs than going wireless at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated from Russ or the wired IEM gang 🤠 Edit: looking for people using wired IEMs to guide me on my quest on how they are doing it and if my suggestions above are sensible. Thanks to @EBS_freakfor getting me to clarify what my stream of consciousness is actually asking 🤣
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@EBS_freakdo you still have your A12t's? Still use them? I saw on the old thread you preferred them to the N8s
