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Bloody Guitarists! Band moving to in ears. Help!
MrPring replied to MrPring's topic in General Discussion
Cheers gang great responses. The main offender is also the lead vocalist so will need to educate him that his amp now doesn't need to be pointed at his ears set to 'stun' for him to hear himself. -
Hey folks posted this in its own thread but will give it a go here as well; Evening gang. Finally convinced the band to make the shift to in ears so we've got ourselves a mixer (Soundcraft u24i) and have all got P2s and some IEMS (as well as a full set of mics and cables). I'm now ampless and even the drummer is thinking of going to an electric kit but the 2 guitarists are not looking to ditch their amps just yet. I've explained the benefits etc but their excuse is they'll not be able to get feedback at low volumes or if they go ampless. I'm a bit stumped on how to handle this. We've always been a ridiculously loud band but this was fine as we always played bigger venues so had powerful PAs and good monitoring. We've had a 5 year break and now on the comeback trail but now back to playing small venues hence the shift. Is it a case of just stepping on a drive pedal or two (whilst maintaining volume) to achieve this feedback? It's not a massive part of our show but at the start and end of some songs we do this for effect. Anyone come up against similar reluctance or anything else that might come up? Any help greatly appreciated.
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Evening gang. Finally convinced the band to make the shift to in ears so we've got ourselves a mixer (Soundcraft u24i) and have all got P2s and some IEMS (as well as a full set of mics and cables). I'm now ampless and even the drummer is thinking of going to an electric kit but the 2 guitarists are not looking to ditch their amps just yet. I've explained the benefits etc but their excuse is they'll not be able to get feedback at low volumes or if they go ampless. I'm a bit stumped on how to handle this. We've always been a ridiculously loud band but this was fine as we always played bigger venues so had powerful PAs and good monitoring. We've had a 5 year break and now on the comeback trail but now back to playing small venues hence the shift. Is it a case of just stepping on a drive pedal or two (whilst maintaining volume) to achieve this feedback? It's not a massive part of our show but at the start and end of some songs we do this for effect. Anyone come up against similar reluctance or anything else that might come up? Any help greatly appreciated. Mods: 👌
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That's class Charlie thanks for sharing. Had a read through again. I feel like the bassrig into a small trees DI could be a winner but I'm really wanting to hear how a Fake Plastic Trees into a Small Trees DI would sound. More research required!
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Hopefully he can chime in with his thoughts! I'm going ampless and on in ears soon so would be more for that 🤠
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Nice one Jimmy! We'll have our own desk, probably will just use the house mics apart from we'll supply out own vocal mics to keep that consistent. Bigger shows we'll have our own engineer as well but only FOH. I have stupidly been researching the Fake Plastic Trees by Audio Kitchen and now I'm thinking of getting one of those and The Small Trees Di 🤣
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Brilliant guys that's great news. Thanks for sharing your opinions.
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Morning lads. Going completely ampless from July when we head off on tour for our next shows. Currently putting together an iem rig (thanks to @EBS_freakfor his amazing thread and advice) and now looking to get the 'ampless' part. Anyone doing similar i.e going straight to FOH/ears using one of these? I've seen some use other DIs and Darkglass Elements etc but ideally id like a really simple setup of tuner>preamp(DI) >FOH as my originals band is pretty one dimensional in terms of the tone I need and I'll just need to set and forget. I've had the VT Bass in the past I've loved (when going through a non SVT) and an actual SVT Skunkworks head through a Berg 4x12 but unfortunately our days of big festival stages and >600 cap venues are over plus who can be f***ed lugging big rigs about in their 40s without a road crew. I've also heard great things from the line 6 Helix online for bass. Would love to hear the experiences of those using the super vintage or the '64 playing on iems. Thanks 🤝🏼
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Darkglass Element (Origin stuff gone!) - *SOLD*
MrPring replied to MrDinsdale's topic in Effects For Sale
No worries homie, funds ready if you wanna deal 🤓 -
Darkglass Element (Origin stuff gone!) - *SOLD*
MrPring replied to MrDinsdale's topic in Effects For Sale
Nice pedals! Would you take £100 for the element? Can transfer the funds immediately. Cheers Rob -
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Thicko alert 🙋♂️ How do you send a stereo signal from say an xr18 to a p2. Do I need to buy like a 2 XLR female to stereo TRS? Edit: Just found this site which explains it... http://silentsky.net/wordpress/archives/930 As you were.
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My guy! I'm definitely still considering the p16m but that might be an future upgrade once I get the system up and running. One question though on daisy chaining. Presumably I can just run 1 cat5 from the xr18 into the first p16m and then 'thru' to the next and so on and they can have their own dedicated mix?
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Nice one Gaz. That's good to hear about the low end not being overpowering.
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Also seem to have narrowed down my ciem search to the 64 audio a4s. Have got LUGS as a fallback but like the idea of a dynamic driver in there for that bottom end. Anyone any experience with LUGS or the 64 audio model (or the n8).
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After a million YouTube and reddit rabbit holes think I've sussed what I'm going to do. P1 velcro'd to our pedalboards for those wanting stereo (me). 2 xlr each ran from the monitor rack next to drum riser to pedalboards. If mono, I'm going to create a loom with a trs and xlr going from guitar amp to pedalboard. trs for amp to pedalboard and xlr from aux out on monitor to P1 on the board. Then another loom that's headphone extension cable and trs to plug into my bass (stereo iem mix). For the other 2 (guitars) they can have a shorter xlr combined with their guitar cable which will go to their p2 they'll wear on their belts. I reckon I'm gonna go ampless first, they might take some more convincing.
