Nicko

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1507903665' post='3388709'] Additionally in my old punk covers band we worked on the theory that if it hadn`t been in the top 30 many punters would be unlikely to have heard of it, so no matter how good a song it was, not top 30, we didn`t play it. [/quote] We take a similar approach. The trouble with more modern stuff is that it has to have been both top 30 and still regularly played on the radio or somehow kept in the the public ear (eg film scores, adverts etc). There's no point in playing last years best top 30 as almost no one will remember it. I always take a look at youtube hits which are also a good indicator.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1507903417' post='3388706'] Best covers band I was in had a policy of not including a track if even one person didn't like it. Could be frustrating, but eventually we ended up with a killer set that everyone liked. [/quote] We also have a veto. It is used sparingly so as to avoid hacking people off. The main problem last night was that I wanted to veto almost everything that was suggested by one band member. When I got his suggestions 80% were ones we had previously discussed and dismissed.

When the band started out we decided we wanted to do post punk, indie and alternative stuff that everyone would know, but that not every other pub band played. It turns out we actually do quite a lot of what other bands play (Chelsea Dagger, Take Me Out, Florescent Adolescent, I Predict A Riot, etc, etc), but that's not the point. We played a few gigs and some of the punters started asking for more "classic" rock. Reluctantly I agreed to put some "off message" tracks into the set list. We now have Sweet Child O mine, Walk this Way, and Enter Sandman in the set. I'm OK with this and I agree we shouldn't restrict ourselves to a narrow genre. Last night we met to discuss potential new songs: Of the 47 song suggestions 15 were what I'd call Hard Rock, or Classic Rock. Suggestions included I Cant Get No Satisfaction, Paradise City, Schools Out (Alice Cooper) and Tush. Apart from Schools Out I don't mind the songs, but they are in no way consistent with what our current band identity is. I asked if we put Paradise City on the list would we ever play it instead of, not as well as, Sweet Child, and I might have well have taken a dump on the table. When I said if they want to do stuff that old then maybe something like Ace of Spades would be more in keeping with the Post Punk/ Indie thing they didn't get it at all. Is it me or they have they got the wrong bassplayer?

[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1507662145' post='3387109'] EVERY instrument needs to be played with good time, whether their perceived role is time/rhythm related or not. Nothing sounds worse than a lead guitarist with poor time. It's one of the things that separates the great players from the rest. [/quote] I don't disagree entirely. I think what I meant is timing needs to be excellent for bass, but good will do for other instruments.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1506779722' post='3381081'] Lowering the level of protection is not a good way to go IMO. [/quote] I couldn't disagree more. What you need is to get the overall level down below about 85dBA. At this level hearing will not be affected even if you expose yourself to it for 8 hours a day. Its also worth remembering that a 3dB cut represents about a halving of the overall energy level. 80dB is about what you would be exposed to standing next to a busy road, 90 dB is when that big lorry goes past. However, if you experience any discomfort due to that bloke hitting the crash cymbal while practicing you are likely to be in the 110 dB range, so a cut of 25 to 30 would be appropriate.

A place to nominate bass lines with so many variations on a central bass theme you are not sure whether the player just forgot what he did the first time round. I'm not talking jazz. eg: Sweet Child o Mine No One Knows Anything by Flea

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[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1507560039' post='3386344'] If he doesn't want to play in a band, then maybe playing melodic pieces will fill his desires? That's what I play. I'm happy. [/quote] Or he could play a role that doesn't require precise timing such as lead guitar. IMHO a sense of rhythm is pre-requisite for bass playing, kind of like having two hands, but its not really the case for all nstruments to the same extent. I'm not sure someone with so much development needed will get to where they need to for bass.

[quote name='Hazy Bass' timestamp='1507212625' post='3383966'] Is there any reason it has to be recorded DI rather than with a mic? Given the choice I would always record acoustic guitar with a mic rather than DI, and with the budget you have available there are some excellent mics for recording. My favourite is the Audio Technica AT4041, but any reasonable quality studio condenser mic should give good results. Mic placement can also make a difference, and so can more than one mic. If you have to record DI then I would suggest trying a dedicated outboard acoustic preamp as well as just the guitar's pickup, e.g. Radial, Headway etc. These can make the world of difference. Good luck! [/quote] +1. Why compromise the sound with a pickup which never quite replicates what you hear when you play acoustically. Although, for best effect I believe a combination of DI and a mic can be used.

I think I use my thumb as described without thinking about it. However since I switch between fingers and pick I also mute strings with my left hand as one would with a six string guitar.

Although he's a complete twat, and better known for the songwriting and vocals I think some of the stuff Prince played was superb. Although hes a complete twat and better known for the songwriting and vocals Kelly Jones of the Stereophonics rhythm playing is great. Although hes a complete twat and better known for wearing a school uniform Angus Young has a very talented brother. Apparently he can play young Gus under the table.

GAK just supplied me a lovely looking Epi ES339. Plays well, and the cherry finish is, erm, the cherry on the cake. To be honest I would have bought the Ibanez AM73 if they had made it in some better finishes - the antiqued finish is absolutely minging and I didn't want plain black.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1505751143' post='3374026'] Firstly accept that will make mistakes If you make one just stop playing you until you get an idea where to come back in Second just concentrate on having fun Also aware that other people will make mistakes as well [/quote] Well, I'd say yes, accept that you might make a mistake or two, but almost no one will notice unless you stop. Most of all, enjoy it.

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1505475068' post='3372181'] I like a bit of flute or violin in a rock song, different kind of voice, can take the music in a different direction. [/quote] A flute will never be better than the bagpipe solo in Its a Long Way To The Top. IMHO of course.

[quote name='SH73' timestamp='1505452184' post='3371952'] Think it's all about personal taste in music. Some bands mentioned in this thread are stadium filling bands playing for [b]40+ decades[/b] still going strong. Their audience consist of teens to OAP age. My choice of an overrated band however is Oasis. Singer is Amy Winehouse. [/quote] Seems like some of them have been around that long.

My name is Nick. My surname begins with O. So its not really a pseudonym. I wrote an on line blog for a few years and in some cases was critical of people and companies that might have caused some problems and assumed a pseudonym for obvious reasons. It didn't go down when well when one of our friends stumbled on the blog and told Mrs Nicko. On the blog she was called Genghis. I eventually got bold enough to post photos on the blog that would enable people to identify me.

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1505458700' post='3371994'] pokies. darts, 8 ball and bands got turfed out. filled the room with pokies made a mint. installed good restaurants with their windfall now they are empty-ish pokie rooms are dead, people have lost all their money and are now too broke to gamble. live music making a slow comeback in a desperate bid to bring in crowds but random breathos have killed it I fear. Why would you risk losing your licence for the privilege of paying ten bucks for a pint of draught beer ffs? [/quote] Pokie rooms seemed to be alive and well when I was in Oz a year or so back. There's no direct equivalent in the UK.

Thin Lizzy. Great basist, passable singer, mostly sh1t songs. Aerosmith. Steve Tylers voice is fantastic, dont get the spandex. Dire Straits. No, just kiddin, there's nothing I like about them.

[quote name='mikel' timestamp='1505381425' post='3371428'] No no no, simply stating facts. [/quote] He he.

[quote name='itsmedunc' timestamp='1505319398' post='3371029'] PS. U2 as well. A bad enough pretentious band but when they and equally pretentious Green Day murdered The Skids song, The Saints Are Coming, they went onto my "Sh*t List"! [/quote] I can understand people not getting Green Day, but pretentious isn't a word I'd associate with them. [quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1505326354' post='3371108'] Always struggled to fathom the Pete Doherty thing. Libertines and BabyShambles. Might've been more to do with him being a goon though. [/quote] I've played a couple of songs in our set, the song writing is great, but you are right about Pete. [quote name='mikel' timestamp='1505338698' post='3371235'] Agreed. The Beatles have to be taken in context. Back in the day they were the pilot fish for the rest of the music world. People held there breath when a new recording was imminent. Exciting days, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who did not live through the 60s. Anything and everything was possible. [/quote] Are you Blue in disguise?

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1505314688' post='3370974'] there's a few songs about w***ing that people don't get, Teenage Kicks is another [/quote] And I'm A W*nker by Ivor Biggun. Very misunderstood but rarely played on the Beeb

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' timestamp='1505294895' post='3370758'] Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated? S.P. [/quote] Black Sabbath [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1505293975' post='3370749'] I feel exactly the same way about Black Sabbath. [/quote] Oh sh1t.

[quote name='T-Bay' timestamp='1505249231' post='3370563'] Radiohead, don't get them at all, Muse, guaranteed to get me reaching for the power switch, and........ The Beatles, I appreciate voodoo dolls of me will get big spikes in them, but I don't rate them. They just leave me cold, whereas the Kinks don't half the credit they deserve. I can't deny their popularity but they aren't for me. [/quote] IMHO you are completely wrong about Radiohead, but I can understand anyone not getting them. Muse were a band I quite enjoyed, but they are doing a bit of a U2 "dissapearing up their own A" thing I completely agree about the Fab 4 and the Kinks. Most of The Beatles stuff is inane, uninteresting and derivitive. They were prolific and by the law of probability they did a few good things. My addition Bryan Adams, twee rock pop that my mum would not object to.

Does this bloke at Oxford get extra points for stating the f*****g obvious?

Last time I was there Wunjo had "temporarily" relocated from the original building. Given the recent Strike programme on BBC 1 I expect a bit of a resurgence.