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Only 811 for me. Do we have any drummists we can use as a reference point?
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[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1440078027' post='2848084'] You got my curiosity going I found this, that's how I used to play it, no double tracking The bottom notes are mostly droning, so really easy to play [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82-T9ivCuV0#t=75[/media] [/quote] You could be right. I've listened to it a few times now. When I played this before I used to play two notes in the high register, not as a pedal. Not sure if the recorded version uses a high note and a pedal, two high and a pedal or multitracking. However he plays it its fantastic.
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[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1440063339' post='2847916'] I can hear two distinct basses during the solo in War Pigs around the 3:40 mark [media]http://youtu.be/pf8CuLIOCwc[/media] [/quote] Yes, not sure if its an echoplex though?
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[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1440013581' post='2847645'] two basslines? I hear two simultaneous notes in places, sure, but that's just two notes played at the same time not multitracked... I could be wrong, of course, but that's what I hear [/quote] In the each guitar solo there's a high part and low part definitely double tracked. It repeats in the outro.
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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1440069201' post='2847990'] I get described as solid. I accept it as a compliment but I suppose it could be taken either way. I would much rather be called exciting, lively and innovative, but I know that's not what I do. I like to think I'm in the same league as Duck Dunn, John McVie and Bob Babbitt. An American bass player I knew called my playing "meat and potatoes". I guess that's American for solid? You are what you are. Just make sure you're better at it than anyone else. [/quote] Meat and potatoes means nothing does it? Theres meat and potatoes like my mum cooks, and theres meat and potatoes a la Blumenthal. One is solid, the other is flash. If any american compares your playing to food I guess it defines quantity but doesn't define quality?
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Seems to me if you already have a car full you can just say you can't fit it in, whether you wanted to or not. This saves the argument that you're supposed to be a band, not a backing group to support the singers ego.
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Scar Tissue comes on my ears feast and not just one but two brilliant basslines. Not sure theres not a third lurking lower in the mix. Flea really is a b***ard!
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Great unanswered philosophical questions of rock and pop...
Nicko replied to TrevorR's topic in General Discussion
If its only titles: Do you think its alright (Who) Why dont you find out for yourself (Morrisey) How Soon is Now (The Smiths) Whats so funny about peace love and understanding (Elvis Costello) but surely the greatest philosophical questions WTF was Bono looking for? What wont Meatloaf Do? Ce qu'elle a dit, ce soir la? -
[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1439917790' post='2846777'] Musically, really very little. If there's a dozen decent music pubs in the area described I'd be surprised. I think you're down to one pub in Harrow, a couple in (North) Greenford, maybe one in Ruislip, not sure about Uxbridge - there used to be several but precious little left now. That's the A40 done. The M4 corridor is not much better. A couple of pubs in Brentford & Isleworth, a couple in Hounslow, and a couple in Hayes. The only area where music pubs seem relatively healthy still is the triangle below Heathrow stretching down to the A316. It's not great. I'm sure things improve once you get outside the M25 though. [/quote] I'm just outside Harrow, around my manor we have Harrow has O'Neills which is trying to build up a live scene, and The Junction which is trying but has no budget - pay for free only, and Trinity which I think has occasional live bands. The Queens head in Pinner has a live act on one Sunday each month (late afternoon/early evening) Normally played by one of the bar staffs brothers' band. Ruislip - I only know of The Middlesex Arms which has a open band night and The Black Horse in Eastcote. Not aware of the one you mention in Greenford. The Blues bar in West Drayton has open band on Sunday, not sure if the have regular bands playing a full set though. And that's It as far as I know. Can you expand on the venues between H'row and the Chertsey Road - I'm in need of live music to listen to. Admiral Nelson - Obviously from the recent thread. Does the Airman still do stuff - anywhere else?
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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1439926481' post='2846869'] Sure, and the guy really might have meant it...but the OP isn't sure as he wouldn't have posted. [/quote] Just to clarify the original question - the so called "compliment" it made me think. I came to the conclusion before I posted that solid is a very good thing if you're the bass player. As a compliment its not very effusive which is why I had to think about it. With any kind of superlative it would be a great compliment. Just wanted to see what BC thought. Seems most tend to agree.
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The Members sang "This is the Sound of the Suburbs". Frankly I'm struggling to see much Sound going on in London Suburbs. Where's it happening in West and NW outer London? I'm thinking say outside the North circ, but inside the M25.
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Showed a mate of mine who is in a (fairly good) covers band some vids of our weekend gig. He described my bass playing as "solid" He means it as a compliment - I asked. Who's happy to be described as solid?
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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1439482083' post='2843289'] No problem. I was just wondering, why you might be complicating it. [/quote] I played this so often but I couldn't think what the notes were without a bass in my hands and the benefit of muscle memory. Just goes to show have s**t some online tabs are.
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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1439481326' post='2843272'] For some reason, the OP wants to play the verse in Db (C#) and the chorus in D. [/quote] That might explain my problem working out what scale it was.
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[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1439478810' post='2843237'] Just for reference: the general rule is that, in simple harmony, every scale should have an A B C D E F and a G. The OP's description of a sequence of notes as C#, C and A# is not 'wrong' but it is clumsy. It is better to think of the sequence as Db, C and Bb. Same notes but easier to read on a written score (less accidentals etc) and less confusing. The theory doesn't work with the G, G# and A because that is not a diatonic sequence but a riff the climbs in semitones (i.e. the parent 'scale' is changing with each chord) [/quote] To be fair I did say "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]More properly I guess the verse is C#, B#. A#." with the expectation that someone would tell me there's no such thing as B#.[/font][/color]
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We did a free one a while back and the LL was so impressed he volunteered us for one of his mates boozers. At the rip old age of, ahem, 47, I will be playing my first ever paid gig this weekend.
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Inspired by the 50 Basslines everyone should know I immediately thought "Teenage Kicks". The thread wants Song, Bass player and Scale. I don't want to play it, but everyone should know it. So I got thinking about the scale.. This is way beyond me, given how simple the song is. So the verse is C#, C and A# The chorus is G, G# and A. More properly I guess the verse is C#, B#. A#. And before you pedants start, yes there is such a note as B#. This bit could be C# major (Tonic, maj7th, maj 6th) but to me it resolves to the A# so its A# minor, (min3, 2, 1 progression) I think its obvious that the chorus has to be a modulation, because the chorus resolves to A. My musical theory isn't great but I can't think of any scale with two consecutive half tome steps. Which I guess means G# is a passing chromatic. Does that mean the C# is also a passing note. Put me out of my misery.
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Your Top 10 Favorite (not best) Bass Players
Nicko replied to Chiliwailer's topic in General Discussion
In no particular order, and in some cases not particularly good players trehnically but they always seem to play the right thing at the right time. 1.Flea (RHCP) 2.Mike Dirnt (Green Day) 3.Nik Fraiture (the Strokes) 4.Bruce Foxton (The Jam) 5.Mark Stoermer (the Killers) 6.Bernard Edwards (Chic) 7.Andy Rourke (The Smiths) 8.Geezer Butler (Sabbath) 9 Noel Redding (Jimi Hendrix Experience) 10. Jeremy Davis (Paramore) -
Is Keef right, Sgt Peppers is a load of tosh?
Nicko replied to PaulWarning's topic in General Discussion
I'll not go off on my usual rant about the "Fab" four. I'll just chip in with A Day In The Life is one of their least objectionable offerings. Lucy In the Sky is OK. So if Keef was slagging off the album as a whole i'd have to agree. -
"Only a pub?" its legendary. But not very big. I'm surprised he windows were intact after that. Awesome.
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I just don't get why people pay such a premium for it. Is it really that much different from a good new example? You can buy a brand new USA precision standard for about £1200, a 58 reissue (new) for £1600 or visit Andy Baxters and grab yourself an original 1959 for, ahem, £12500. Educate me fellow BCers
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No. Especially a jazz one like the one I was subjected to on Sunday. Bass solos are no more acceptable than the 10 minute egomaniac lead guitar solo.
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Off The Beaten Track Covers That Go Down Well
Nicko replied to Mykesbass's topic in General Discussion
Buddy Holly by Weezer went down well yesterday. -
[quote name='blue' timestamp='1438531175' post='2835203'] The curse is how hard it is to make that very point to some. Blue [/quote] Well to support the "young people don't get the Beatles" I don't. Admittedly I'm not that young, but no amount of people telling me I'm wrong is gonna solve that. Its a bit like a people telling me celery is nice when I f**** hate the stuff. Yes the Beatles were influential. Yes they wrote some fine tunes. They also released plenty of dross. I get very frustrated reading factual inaccuracy to support the Beatles supremacy theory. Its a matter of fact George Harrison definitely did not invent lead guitar, or playing guitar standing up. I'll also avoid a counterargument that if the Beatles were so influential they were responsible for everything that was wrong with music until Punk.
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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1438249776' post='2832838'] I read Blue's point as, if you experienced what went before then your perspective on the Beatles era (and what has followed) could be very different from later generations. I'd agree with that. The Beatles were the spearhead. They enabled many careers and ended many more. They didn't just gently open the door, they caused a seismic earthquake and blew it off it's hinges. If you think they're only songs you don't appreciate what happened, but why would you. You weren't there to see it. Anyone caught up and changed at that point could easily feel very different about most parts of our subsequent culture, even to this day. [/quote] Well the thread started with [size=4][font=Arial]"My point, some of us were just born at a time that gave us wisdom and a perspective on rock that future generations would not have."[/font][/size] I'll accept that the perspective may be different, but not that somehow this is a better perspective or that there is more wisdom.