Old Man Riva

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1441193502' post='2856782']The Beatles Curse thread is interesting also in that the band resutled in a generation or three of guitar based bands knocking out A Hard Days Night..[/quote] Probably not the best example you could have chosen, given that most bands would struggle to make the first chord sound like the record! http://www.beatlesbible.com/features/hard-days-night-chord

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1441032496' post='2855489'] Rich Kids - Ghosts of Princes in Towers. [/quote] Great shout. Overlooked at the time, I think mainly due to Matlock's (perceived depleted) status after being ousted from the Pistols and also the feeling (in the press) that it was somehow 'punk lite'. It's a top album.

Some Sunday funk... This was one of Sly Stone's 'Sly's Stone Flower' projects from '69/'70 I'm Just Like You by 6ix (unsurprisingly it has a fabulous bass line - a Jazz played with a pick??) [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAc04Nh6M4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAc04Nh6M4[/url] There's a really good article about the Stone Flower project here.. [url="https://medium.com/cuepoint/sly-stone-the-original-rhythm-king-da29241897b5"]https://medium.com/cuepoint/sly-stone-the-original-rhythm-king-da29241897b5[/url]

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1440708961' post='2853261'] In re: Bolan, Bowie, Slade and the Sweet being influenced by the Beatles: * Mr Bowie covered 'Across the Universe'.[/quote] Mr Bowie MURDERED Across the Universe, and I say that as someone who loves Bowie and has been known to listen to Tin Machine through choice..

Mississippi Johnny & the Swamp Crawl Deluxe You can be Johnny and the rest of the gang can be the SCDs. Edited to say: Just heard MJ & the SCDs have split... now known as JJ Martell & the Dirty Gumbo Band (not to be confused with JJ Hunsecker & the Sidney Falco Express)..

[quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1440260915' post='2849443'] Ooh me please!! [/quote] Dropped you a line..

Bought this on the above recommendation and have since read it - it's a decent read, with an excellent interview with Lee Sklar as the stand out piece for me (he comes across as really open and honest and sounds like a really top bloke..). I'm trying not to hoard things these days so am happy to post it out to anyone interested so they could then read it and maybe it forward to it on to someone else etc etc..

I think Inner City Blues has two Bob Babbitt bass lines working together. Though I change my mind most times I hear it..

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1439400192' post='2842521'] The gentleman bass player eschews scrunchies in favour of a smart [i]foulard[/i] or - in extremis - a Tootal cravat in a fetching paisley pattern. [/quote] Tootal scarves are the best. I have a deep red one with blue paisley pattern, and a vibrant yellow one, again with blue paisley. Not silk, mind. Both vintage and made in England of a rayon mix. That said, they should be treated as silk when cleaning. Such a lot of things to consider for such a simple item. Dandy-tastic..

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1439158598' post='2840507'] Listen to "Back to Nature" from "Secondhand Daylight" - totally prog, even the bass part sounds like Chris Squire. [/quote] For the keyboard parts alone, yep, it's definitely prog! Also noted on the Wikipedia page that the album wound Garry Bushell up at the time so that's another plus point..

Pretty much self taught. Had a few initial lessons from a local player and then it was up to me. Managed to blag my way into a really good covers band (the brother of Jonny the Notes of this parish was the guitarist) where the players were all slightly older than me and hugely better musicians (really top players) and held on for dear life. Practiced every morning before work and every night when I got home - I had to, just to keep in touching distance with the rest of them. It was the best learning experience I could have wished for. Played along to the radio, whatever the song/genre as well as records - challenged myself to learn a song a day (properly), which I did for years. Picked up all sorts of different styles this way, which meant it was never boring. The one thing I do regret is not learning how to read music - daft, really, as I played cello at junior school so had a basic grasp of it when I was a young kid. That would have certainly helped in later years.

Blimey, that's something else. Takes a lot to make members of an orchestra smile..

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1439128869' post='2840229']I would also class Magazine as a prog band. [/quote] Never would have thought of Magazine as a prog band (not sure I do now!), what makes you think of them as prog? I've seen early Simple Minds included in prog rock conversations but never Magazine. Edited to say, I've just revisited The Light Pours Out Of Me and I'm shifting my stance!

[quote name='Baxter' timestamp='1439147931' post='2840423'] Really pleased to see that people remember The Prisoners!! Tremendous act and extremely influential if you're playing in the garage/mod/60s vibe circuit. I recently got an LP from their latest incarnation Graham Day and the Forefathers [/quote] Graham Day was on Eddie Piller's Modcast a while back talking about the band.. Probably still available to download from iTunes?

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1438905829' post='2838657'] Both of those songs are part of the Englishness of The Beatles. They are essential to the perfection of Revolver. [/quote] Agreed.. For me it's [i]the[/i] Beatles album.

[quote name='Delberthot' timestamp='1438962876' post='2839043'] I'll need to give it a listen but at the moment my favourite is Fragile by Yes. It's been my favourite album for the past 10 years at least[/quote] I can't get my head (or ears) around Close To The Edge, it does absolutely nothing for me... Fragile, on the other hand, I love.. [quote name='Sonic_Groove' timestamp='1438967809' post='2839094'] To play safe I would go for Close To The Edge. But I do love Tarkus & Brain Salad Surgery All this was embarrassing in the late 70's when I was a post-punk!!![/quote] Always good to remember that a lot of punks were rock/prog fans before punk came along. Most punk bands too - Mick Jones was a rock fan; The Pistols used to do Faces covers in rehearsals etc (Matlock ended up IN the Faces). I subscribe to the Danny Baker theory that it wasn't prog that sparked punk; more bands like Queen, Sad Cafe, ELO etc.. When did anyone (other than if you were a fan and heard the records) hear Yes, ELP, King Crimson, Camel? Queen et al were all available on the radio and available to all. Danny Baker is a wise man..

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1438847672' post='2837857'] Another favourite of mine. Would you consider this to be a "solo"? (same goes for The Fish by Chris Squire). [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RunHx-LTgo[/media] [/quote] I think this is much tastier from the same player... 2:16 to 2:38 [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzeDE-pXfjY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzeDE-pXfjY[/url] If there's a four string solo to be done then I much prefer something like this from Willie Weeks than any shredding/slapping/tapping/gonzoid/80-notes-a-second type of affair... from Donny Hathaway's live album... 8:06 to 12:16 - fun, fat, funky and pours like aural treacle out of the speakers [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNz3A1cVus"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUNz3A1cVus[/url]

In terms of a Beatles album I don't think anything comes near to Revolver.. Pretty much flawless, IMHO.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1438879549' post='2838386'] He'd probably fix the hole by shoving a Mars Bar in it.... [/quote] You're just preaching to the Faithfull there..

[quote name='Raslee' timestamp='1438373490' post='2834133'] Traditional = Aguilar [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exrD10v4mg"]http://www.youtube....h?v=1exrD10v4mg[/url] [/quote] Really like that guy's playing.. the Curtis Mayfield 'Pusherman' thing he does is so good/tasty.

This is probably my current fave.. a fabulous take on a Macca track. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzDvHMZKh0"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzDvHMZKh0[/url]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1438088213' post='2831517'] I'm unclear about the subject of the question. Rock and roll as in Teds with a supertanker of hair gel on doing strange dances in blue suede shoes, or rock and roll as in rock, the all-encompassing popular (and loud) beat combo music?[/quote] That was the problem with the programme... they weren't clear to what they were referring to when talking about rock 'n' roll - was it the original sound, the spirit, the look, the attitude etc. I think Eric Burdon would see anything that didn't sound like Chuck Berry or Little Richard as not being rock 'n' roll.. whereas the programme featured Foo Fighters, Noel Gallagher and the Young Fathers as "rock 'n' roll".

Thought it was an interesting idea that just didn't deliver. If you're looking to take apart and analyse something like rock 'n' roll (and I'm not suggesting you should) then I think you'd have to look beyond Lauren Laverne to get the best out of the programme - for me Paul Morley would be the logical choice. It felt like it didn't know what it was trying to achieve (be serious or frivolous) and as a consequence ended up offering little to nothing by way of answering the programme's question. For me, rock 'n' roll is about rebellion, danger, spirit, looking the part, the ability to excite/tease/anger, make people afraid/think/inspire etc - if you listen to people who heard, say, Elvis for the first time that's the way they tend to describe the experience. When punk arrived that's how a lot of people felt - out with the old and in with the new. It's about giving the younger generation a voice musically, and with that in mind the only band I saw resembling the true spirit of rock 'n' roll (as I see it anyway) were Young Fathers. The music didn't do anything for me, mind, but then given my age it's not supposed to..

[quote name='pjb13.bass' timestamp='1437174852' post='2824325'] I couldn't agree more. Crazy Horses is a great song. I'm pretty sure Alex Harvey used to a version of it live, but then he used to do a version of Goodnight Irene as well; a true rock n' roll eccentric.[/quote] Yeah, I'm standing by Crazy Horses as a bona fide rock song. The fact that Alex Harvey covered makes it more so! (didn't realise he'd covered it) [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1437769967' post='2829005'] This Chemical Brothers mix of a Spiritualized song. It's pretty long and doesn't kick in properly until about 3:30 but I remember hearing it for the first time and stopped what I was doing to just listen:[/quote] Hadn't heard that before. I think the original is pretty much untouchable - bass line is such a simple/tasteful/clever one. And the lyrics are so good... and when the gospel chorus kicks in at the end, well.. If you like that kind of sound you'd probably enjoy some of Death in Vegas' stuff..

Ah, okay, the link was to a recent (this month) D'angelo festival gig in Poland. Pino not there (presumably away with The Who) so his 23 year old son Rocco was on bass - pretty damn good too. Remember liking the Ghostpoet track when it was on Later; didn't realise that the girl singer was Pino's daughter - again, pretty damn good. Talented family..