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[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1435610402' post='2810651'] Perhaps we run it (yes I think we should do it despite the low take up so far) like the Oscars: best player in a supporting role; best lead player; etc. So, rock, prog, pop, funk, icon, etc. That way apples and oranges don't get mixed up, but can feature in more than one category. Waddya think? [/quote] If your'e willing & able to take the time to set it up, I'm more than willing to vote. I suspect many other people will be too.

Lists can be fun, but at some point you always end up trying to compare apples & oranges. eg. How do you decide whether Les Claypool should be ranked higher than John Deacon? Les is an avant-garde genius who plays the instrument like just about no one else, whilst Mr Deacon is absolutely solid as a rock, has written many classic lines & songs & is pretty much everything a traditional rock bass player is supposed to be. They both undoubtedly (imo) deserve to be on a list of the top 50 bass players but as to where abouts on that list in relation to each other I have absolutely no idea where to even start.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1435598543' post='2810440'] Sorry about that. Ok, I think go to edit, then at the bottom next to '[i]save changes[/i]', click on use '[i]full editor[/i]', then you can edit your opening title as well as your post. [/quote] Thank you so much for that. You've saved me a lot angst from my mild OCD.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1435597677' post='2810428'] Side dish or main course? [/quote] Aaargh. I've got no idea how to edit a title, dammit.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1435587864' post='2810300'] Very entertaining. To be honest Glastonbury is too big now to be all about new music. A massive festival costs masses of money which means people want to see big names for their money, the big names want the big money and the price rises accordingly [/quote] Glastonbury isn't really run like that. It is & always has been a fundraiser for various environmental charities. Headliners get a flat fee of £200,000 whether they are the Rolling Stones, Kanye West or Florence & the machine. Okay £200,000 isn't bad for a couple of hours work, but its absolute buttons on the European festival circuit. AC/DC were rumoured to have received £4,000,000 for their last Donnington set & I'm sure there are other commercially run festivals which pay more than that. At Glastonbury the bands pay for peanuts, the Eavis family takes a token lump sum (it was £20,000 in the 90s, no idea what it is now) & the rest of the profits go to the aforementioned charities.

I was quite impressed by this. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4qaihcb4a8[/media]

Okay, after careful thought & an inability to sleep I've come up with Chris Martin (No, I don't really think of him as a 'rock star' either but he is globally famous and mainly associated with guitar based music) and Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys. I realise these choices may not be accepted as fitting the description of 'Rock Star' by everyone (or even most), but they're pretty much all I've got in the under 40 category.

If you stick with the traditional definition of 'rock star' which would loosely be someone with global recognition who is associated with guitar based music & also stipulate that they have to be under 40 I really think you're going to struggle to find anyone - & you probably wont like or agree with anyone who does manage to fit into the criteria. If I really strain those criteria the only one I can think of is Taylor Swift who at least plays guitar & is , apparently, according to a review I once read (somewhere) 'rockier' live. There are a fair few globally recognised music stars who can sell out a tour in seconds,but I doubt many here would be happy adding the 'rock' title to their status.

Slightly annoyed that the beeb didn't show the whole set (I'm assuming that they'll have played for more than slightly over an hour). Although I suppose that it is possible that the Who, for whatever reason, didn't want the whole thing broadcast. I seem to recall that's what Mick & Keef stipulated when the Rolling Stones headlined.

I wasn't entirely sure he was playing - I've seen a couple of brief long shots of the band & a couple of close ups of the bass players hands but I've been unable to 100% confirm to myself that he's there. When will the BBC realise that there needs to be a Bassist Cam available on the red button? (In response to the original post I can just about hear the bass through my telly, but I'd obviously prefer it to be a lot more prominent in the mix).

[quote name='jonnythenotes' timestamp='1435514400' post='2809577'] From that bloke who headlined last night, to Lionel Richie....(with a real live band.... ) this evening.. Real music, a real voice, real musicians and hugely entertaining, with no shock your granny language, and humility by the boat load, and I think it's a fair bet he won't try any Queen numbers out... Nice one Lionel and co... [/quote] To be fair he could have been swearing like a trooper & the BBC have edited it out - the actual set finished about 2 hours ago. He is storming it though & he's got the top notch band I hoped Kanye was going to bring with him. Sunday afternoons at Glastonbury have always been brilliant, I used to go a lot in the 90s & its just a time when loads of people come together to sing along to some classic tunes, the atmosphere is indescribable. My personal favourite was watching Johnny Cash on a sunny afternoon, probably the only gig I've been to where my dad was a bit jealous that I'd seen it & not him.

Earlier I wrote '[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]If nothing else I'd be expecting some world class musicians on that stage with him.'[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Now I feel like a bit of a plonker.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Anyway, once I got over the shock & indignation at the lack of band I quite enjoyed it. I'm still not sure about the auto-tune stuff and his need to feed his ego (eg. getting the crowd to sing Bohemian Rhapsody with him just so he could feel like a classic rock star) is somewhere between comedic & pathetic, but over all I enjoyed it more than not.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I understand hip-hop can raise very strong emotions in those who are not fans of the genre - It'd be a boring world if we all liked the same stuff. [/font][/color]

I'm keeping an open mind - I loved his first 3 albums but he went a bit weird after that (Both musically & in his personal life). Still, JayZ absolutely stormed the Pyramid a few years ago, as long as Kanye doesn't go for a million costume changes or go off on a 20 minute rant about something I reckon he'll probably do pretty well. If nothing else I'd be expecting some world class musicians on that stage with him.

Just thought I'd bung this up, best thing I've seen on this years Glastonbury coverage so far (and not just because of the super-cute break dancing kid) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eayeI_0yAKI

Many years ago my ex-girlfriend's dad took us to see the Eagles at the NIA in Birmingham (I think it was the European leg of the 'Hell Freezes Over' tour, but it might have been the one after that). It was one of the worse 'name' gigs I've ever seen. A lot of it was down to the venue, the NIA isn't a great music venue anyway IMO & we were on the top on the back slope about as far from the stage as its possible be. The audience were also pretty unenthusiastic,treating even the most famous songs with mild applause rather than rapturous cheering. But what didn't help was that every single song, every single member of the band bar the drummer switched over to a different guitar which seemed to take a good couple of minutes each time & really didn't help the band build up any sense of flow or building impetus or momentum during the gig.

Suprised nobody has posted this yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGGQ-FCe_w One of my all time favourite pieces of music from one of my all time favourite films.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1434656788' post='2801640'] [url="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/glastonbury-2015-lineup-acdc-will-happily-play-if-michael-eavis-asks-9898423.html"]http://www.independe...ks-9898423.html[/url] They'd go down well. [/quote] Much as I'd love to see AC/DC play the festival I doubt they'd ever do it. Firstly Glastonbury pays absolute buttons, even to the headliners (its more about raising money for various environmental charities) & AC/DC aren't known for playing for free. Secondly AC/DC like to have 100% control of their staging, who films their performance, who makes the sound recording. A couple of years ago they made the Download organisers jump through a million hoops, set up their own super-secure AC/DC personnel only compound on the site & banned the broadcast of their performance. No single artist would ever get away with that at Glastonbury, its just too big for the organisers to give that much attention & room to one band.

The million dollar question - is the disappearance of said T shirt linked to the appearance of this thread on Basschat? Is Mr Hall still stalking this site in the hopes of pouncing & threatening unsuspecting members with scurrilous threats of legal action? If so may a well known phrase concerning sex & travel springs to mind.

[quote name='DorsetBlue' timestamp='1433348634' post='2790361'] Clarification is in....apparently when they said PA, they meant the same level of PA that you have in a usual pub gig environment i.e. vocals with the guitars and bass using amps and drum purely acoustic. So the stage in question would appear to be based on a standard of a pub gig level. [/quote] So, in a nutshell, when they said 'PA' they didn't actually mean PA. (still worth checking what they think everybody is going to put the vocal mics through though).

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1433129716' post='2788072'] Cool looking bass. I would be interested in a Gibson model. Blue [/quote] The single worse bass I have ever played was a 1981 Gibson Flying V bass. I played it in the legendary Musical Exchanges in Birmingham in around 1990. It looked the absolute business, dark blue with a black pickguard, the shop lent me a strap and as I stood up I felt like I was about to go on stage at Wembley. Then I plugged it in & started playing a few of my favourite bits & pieces. Everything I played sounded like Blart Blaart Blaart. The shop assistant actually came over to check if there was something wrong with the Amp but other basses sounded fine through it. I should have been suspicious that this bass had a £350 price tag when everything else in the shop with a Gibson logo started around the £1000 mark. In the interests of objectivity I should point out that's the only Gibson V bass I have ever played & it was nearly 10 years old when I got my hands on it. There may be much better examples out there.

Get yourself a Ramones compilation and play along to it. Its good pretty basic stuff to practice to as a beginner & its also a nice gentle introduction into learning stuff by ear..

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1432454845' post='2781510'] There is still no reason for a 21 year old that doesn't know what an electric guitar is to get up in my face and make a mock of me while I'm trying to make a living. blue [/quote] Don't take it personally. Most music venues sell alcohol. Inevitably some people end up acting like tools. Its not about you.

Go into as many shops as you can. Try everything you can get your hands on. Things to look out for (although in your price bracket it shouldn't too much of an issue). Fretbuzz (irritating, usually fixable but sometimes not). Dead spots. Unacceptable levels of hum or noise on the pickups. (again this can often be fixed but depending on the the cause but can be an annoying expense if you eg. end up having to replace the pick ups). Also check all the strings sound at the same volume when amplified, its not that common these days but I've played basses with weak Gs & on one occasion even a weak A. Good luck & enjoy.

I'd be interested to know what he's got. Has he gone for the gold plated Ritter with fossilized mammoth ivory inlays and strings hand wound by virgins out of unicorn mane & fairy pubes? Or is he more of a Squier CV kind of a chap?

+1 to Overkill. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0KBryUoCto for starters. I cut my bass playing teeth playing along to early Overkill albums. One of the things that separates them from the rest of the Thrash crowd is the clarity of the bass in the mix. Although the vocals are probably a bit marmite...