Cato

Thanks to this thread I've downloaded 'Safety Dance' and am enjoying playing along with it immensely.

I believe it starts with an octave pedal/pitch shifter, after that it gets very complicated and very expensive very quickly (he splits his signal into high and low octaves and runs each one through a seperate pedal board leading to different rigs), but as a basic imitation an octave and a distortion unit should get you on the right track.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1478267194' post='3168037'] I hate Red House. . . even by Hendrix. [/quote] It's what I think of as an 'infinite Song' - it goes on for as long as the guitarist wants it to go on, which often seems like days.

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1478206160' post='3167618'] And in turn, that Cliff song always makes me think of this rock n roll classic... http://youtu.be/0KCi1_BjyCc [/quote] That made me smile, I've not heard it before.

It's probably been over 20 years since I've broken a strong while playing, but I used to get through them when I first started. I think it was a combination of an overly enthusiastic/aggressive pick style and hitting the strings really hard to try to increase the volume to make myself heard in a band situation through a 30 watt amp. Not broken one since I switched to fingers and started letting a decent amp take the strain.

Only made number 15 in the UK but was massive in Europe. http://youtu.be/4mtfnfQoAco

This is my personal favourite Cliff Track. Brings back warm memories of an 80s childhood. Classic video too. http://youtu.be/sn9mLnKmPco

I've always had a secret hankering for something spikey like this, even though my metal days are long behind me. This one looks a bit classier than the standard black-on-black-with-black-binding & black skull and crossbones motif efforts you usually see. If I didn't have my eye on something a bit more practical I'd be sorely tempted.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1478184673' post='3167371'] Similarly, one may read a pertinent, appreciative, innocent post on any topic, and come across a sh*t post from another member which adds little to the sum of human knowledge. Funny places, forums; apparently frequented by some pretty bored folks. [/quote] I resemble that comment. On the subject of the Beatles, I've only been on the forum about 18 months & the subject does seem to have been covered in some depth and with some frequency, often rearing up unexpectedly in the middle of a seemingly unrelated thread and carrying on for many, many pages. Still, if people have forgotten the pain, trauma & angry recriminations of previous threads & want to do it again, so be it. But there'll be tears before bedtime I tell ya 😉.

[quote name='julesb' timestamp='1478120199' post='3166959'] http://youtu.be/6mvJAsFEmWM This could develop into a deeper discussion about how jazz went so far forwards and then took a time machine backwards to a time when players only played show tunes. I'll get my coat and my white flares and see you all next week. [/quote] Beautiful. There's an interesting article here https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/06/new-cool-kamasi-kendrick-gave-jazz-new-groove There's a section where a couple of players talk about how jazz stagnated for a while as the younger generation were reluctant to offend their older peers by accepting more modern Influences into their music. I'm very new at this Jazz thing but it seems to me that with artists like Snarky Puppy, Kamasi Washington & Robert Glasper the modern jazz scene is healthier & more progressive than it has been in years, and that's without counting all the Jazz/hip hop/dance music crossover stuff.

[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1478115585' post='3166890'] I think this record is superb. I'm not familiar with Keane,s stuff. [/quote] Sounds a lot like that. Not my thing, but in fairness the original 'Somewhere only we know' was about a million time better than that horrible Lilly Allen Christmas advert effort a few years ago.

I knew she was a decent guitarist, at the start of her career she often played an acoustic live. Never seen her with a bass before though.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1478031677' post='3166241'] Apparently they played at my local church hall. I was about minus 20 at the time, so don't remember anything about it . [/quote] I think they played all sorts of small & unlikely venues before they became really huge, including Smethwick Swimming Baths, my mum's twin sister went to that one.

Rather good and not what I was expecting to be honest. My mum saw them live in Birmingham at around the same time and regards it as a horrendous experience. Not the Beatle's fault, it was the constant deafening screaming and the lack of bladder control from some audience members stinking the place out. She didn't hear a note they played, though she did enjoy Chubby Checker's supporting set.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1478027906' post='3166198'] [url="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cliff+richard+roll+over+beethoven+new+single"]http://www.youtube.c...oven+new+single[/url] oh dear, is this really the same bloke that made one of the best British Rock and Roll records (Move It) it's been downhill ever since, his voice is just too damned polite [/quote] Only 5000 odd views? Am I looking at the right one? If so it says something about his audience & their grasp of modern technology.

[quote name='AdamWoodBass' timestamp='1478001531' post='3165836'] Hiatus Kaiyote - By Fire Totally fallen in love with this band, playing their stuff to death at the moment. [/quote] Love a bit of Hiatus. Have you listened to any Flying Lotus? He has quite a similar vibe going on.

Two Door Cinema Club - Gameshow. I liked their early quirky indie stuff but their new album has seen them morph into an 80s Electronica/disco/funk machine. Superb http://youtu.be/CJ8_alfIHYI

I had a Hondo strat a few years ago that had pretty much the same headstock shape, though I realise that's not exactly bullet proof evidence.

This is a stunning example of why Build Diaries is one of my favourite corners on Basschat. I have no technical skills and nothing to contribute but, my goodness, I like watching you guys work. If I ever win the lottery (unlikely as I've not bought a ticket in years) the first thing I'd do is commission an Andyjr1515 build.

I think what I'm after in terms of tone is a bit more bass. I've been playing a lot of slap over the last year and rightly or wrongly I've got it in my head that a PJ might sound a bit more punchy than my current set up. I've played a couple of Yamaha BB's recently and they seem to have the sound I've been looking for, on the other hand they're heavy and not particularly aesthetically pleasing whereas the G&L is a very good looking bass and looks like it might be a bit lighter. Cheers again for everyone's advice and I will definitely try a few G&Ls but at the moment I'm swaying towards a Yamaha.

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1477855084' post='3164885'] But far from me in Sussex/Surrey, but if you're ever down this way stop in for a cup of tea and a spin on the SB2 [/quote] It's a bit of a way, but thanks for the offer, this truly is a brilliant forum.

I'll put that on my list of places to check out. Brilliant, cheers.

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1477851028' post='3164836'] Where are you based Cato? [/quote] Warwickshire, about 20 mins from Bass Direct and a short train ride from Birmingham.

That's a shame, though I think I'll still try to have a go on one. If nothing else it's a much prettier guitar than the Yamaha's, and most other PJ's I've seen for that matter.

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1477848095' post='3164808'] I don't use my SB2 as much these days but I never missed the tone control; the bridge pickup is quite weak (I think because it's so close to the bridge), so the way I see it, it's almost like that pickup is the tone control - if you want more treble turn that pickup up, you want less, turn it down. So you have something that works in a similar fashion, but gives a different effect to a tone control. Of course, YMMV. [/quote] Thanks, a weak bridge pickup might be a deal breaker, although I'm aware that on a PJ the bridge pickup is often quieter than the P. I'm hoping to find something that gives a similar scooped tone to the Jazz, but with a bit more oomph, if that makes sense.