Hellzero

This would indeed be a very good fretless to start playing that wonderful instrument that is fretless bass. Just hoping it won't reach a stratospheric price...

Not only new learners... That's why I now almost refuse anyone playing my fretless basses (mainly all my basses) : I'm fed up by this non sense crazy guitar vibrato bending on a fretless when all you have to do is just slightly and gently move your finger back and forth to get that fretless vibrato. I'm a fretless player for more than 3 decades and only had to do fingerboard dressing a very few times as I don't wear the fingerboard that much with roundwounds strings that I'm using since the first day, thanks to my left hand technique. And it was often on second hand basses... And I don't need mandolin frets on a fretted bass to make it sound like a fretless (especially for @tauzero comment elsewhere ).

Yep, that's the way they die indeed.

I owned this fantastic sounding (even close to it as it was designed this way) AudioKinesis Hathor 18134 You've got loads of answers here, by Duke Lejeune (AudioKinesis), on how difficult it is to make an 18 inches speaker that really works... Worth reading the whole ad.

Depending on the way you attack your note and the bass, the low B on most of my (luthier) basses is not glitching. The tracking of this OC-5 is just fantastic. Compared to the the integrated octaver in my EBS Taurus combo, so the first Octaver to beat the OC-2, the OC-5 goes an octave (sorry) lower as the EBS starts glitching around the D on the E string and the B on the A string. Will try again later with all my basses and even my sixer EUB (just for fun as it won't track the low B for sure and certainly not to the low E too).

@sambecker1 This is exactly the very piece of sh*t you've been offered, so forget it. I've helped a lot of people not being screwed when buying vintage Fender's. This so called 1962 Fender Precision Bass is all but original. There are, here on BassChat, some trustable sellers, so just check the ads and if you want to buy a vintage Fender, there are some at decent price.

I will only say two words : RUN AWAY !

Now I have a Mooradian EB DBL weighting only 5.1 lbs (2,26796 kilos) and as good as the Harvest leather ultra heavy double bag, but it's not on cheap side... http://www.mooradian.com/guitar-bass-covers.html

I had an Harvest leather dual bag that was almost weighting more on its own than the two basses inside. 🤦‍♂️

@stereoplayer : The two pickups together must have close to no mids at all. Great for double bass like sounds. The pickups position reminds me of my Kramer 450 B. Must be interesting to hear all 3 positions. 🙂

Got the message too. First thing I always do is check the email address of the sender. If it looks ok, I never use their link, but go directly to the website and do what I have to do. That said, my passwords are so complicated and different from each other that I wish good luck to an eventual scammer. I don't like simplicity.

Sold a more than complete ACG EQ-02 preamp to Keith. All went smooth, fast and easy. Keith is a pleasure to deal with. Maybe we'll meet one day as we live no that far away from each other. Good luck with your build. 😉

My superlatives bag is not big enough. 👌

The headstock shape looks like an original Overwater...

There's nothing on tonewood in this thread. 😉

8 lbs 10 oz is what the scale says. 😉 3.9122341913 kilos is not bad at all and on the light side for a fiver.

As explained in the labyrinth vent and by @itu, the lack of airflow will lead to asphyxia for you and wall sweating in humidity. If you put your labyrinth vent in the ground, say one meter deep, you'll be able to have fresh air in summer and warm air in winter totally naturally. This is why very old houses with thick walls (inertia) and ventilated cellar(s) or so pleasant to live in. It's exactly the same ventilation as with the labyrinth vent explained above without the noise cancelling of the labyrinth. These old houses are in fact the first organic-o-climatic houses and are, at least, 500 years old in their concept... But don't forget to have two of these natural air forcing devices, ideally one at the North and the other at the South, this way the air flow will regulate itself permanently.

After having read this thread, I now fully understand why the great Pareto's principle is applying about wood and tone : I'm still laughing out loud after having read the names of guys who just can (sometimes hardly) play a pentatonic and just repeat themselves over and over with sometimes changing the key, but considered greatest guitarist(s) of all time. Thanks for giving me the answer to my perpetual questioning about this consensus. Uneducation is the key to the answer. Wow, I'm still amazed by the answers. Anyway, so long, and thanks for all the fish.

Bill Frisell alongside Wes Montgomery. Biréli Lagrène alongside Django Reinhardt. Ulf Wakenius alongside Marc Ducret. Steven Wilson alongside Prince. Now, we are talking guitar.

8 excellent fretless players, I just hope it won't turn into a mwah battle and an out of tune mess. That said Alain Caron and Michael Manring are great at teaching and explaining their approach and can play complex chords faster than a top notch jazz guitar player. Steve DiGiorgio may be heard, for once, as he is a terrific fretless player, but in a genre where they seem to have forgotten the low frequencies. Percy Jones has always impressed Jaco Pastorius himself. Mark Egan is a hell of a melodist. Garry Willis will get you lost in timing and odd measures. Tony Franklin can play some extraordinary lines that are so groovy. And Bakithi Kumalo has that special touch and huge tone that we all loved on Graceland, but not only. Let's hear if they will all tune to the A at 440 Hz... which will be the challenge.

I totally agree with you except for the Gruv Gear DuoStrap as the pressure on the back of the spine, where it hurts the OP, will be exactly the same, so an item totally useless for what it's been described to do.... And except if you're are small and skinny, you'll end up with the bass under your chin and the twin strap almost strangling you... The Ibanez EHB is the route to follow, or similar light and ergonomic basses. Headless instruments are way more ergonomic than any other (and lighter). Now, you still didn't mention any budget as it is an important factor. You can check the (expensive for a far East made instrument) Strandberg Boden basses or the Leduc basses as he certainly is a master luthier in building headless basses, but at a cost... Check the second-hand market. That said, the new series of the Ibanez AFR is light and very ergonomic too, but you'll have to like the look. Or ask a luthier to build one for you to your exact specs.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, everything I've put for sale (at decent prices) has gone quickly... And I've sold a lot, but also bought some other stuff and put the remaining money in the household. If, for some, money is tight, because of the pandemic, for others, it's exactly the opposite as they have more money than before, thanks to the same pandemic. So if you don't need it, just sell it.

Totally agree with you Jack. I have a severe back injury too. Weight is a thing, but ergonomics is another often forgotten.

Leland Sklar is using mandolin frets because he says he can get a sound quite close to fretless. It's him saying that, not me. I had a few basses with mandolin frets and I never heard anything coming close to a fretless sound...