A slight correction, hoping I read your post correctly @Frank Blank :
Pino Palladino can't read music and never studied it.
Mick Karn was not reading music very well, but studied it as a teenager and had an excellent ear. He had a conventional music cursus as a bassoon player and was even the 2nd bassoonist of the London School Symphony Orchestra, which is what really started it all, not because of it, but because of the stolen bassoon...
Thanks for posting again (like I did a few times) Bestial Cluster with a young and already talented Steven Wilson on guitar.
Massive Mick Karn fan here.