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That said, there are great slap players, but funnily, they are better when they don't slap. 😉 You want 3 names, but the list is almost endless : Stanley Clarke, Mark King and Marcus Miller...
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I once wanted to create the A.S.L. way back in the early nineties. I should have done it or protect the name as I'm sure it's being used somewhere now : the Anti Slap League. I just couldn't stand these slap "demos" (along with the shredding shredders) you were "hearing" everywhere in the shops, at the shows, ... : anywhere it was plink, plank, plonk, ta, ta, ta, tak. So BORING ! That said I don't care, I just play fretless... 🤣
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So it's a relic Limelight then. 🤣
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Read this article to understand some "things" about vintage basses (that weren't vintage at that time) and make your own opinion : https://www.basschat.co.uk/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=78279
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@binky_bass : Russ, here is your next instrument ! Who said that we are still inventing instruments ? Eternal histoty loop is well proven here. I really like the way she is playing it and explaining its possibilities. Glad, I'm partly Italian. 😊
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Strings spacing at bridge and nuts ?
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Thanks for sharing this interesting article. Being a 6 strings bass player and at some time a bass "historian", I knew most of it, but not all of it, which is very important. In fact, I knew the story through Anthony Jackson's interviews, but the funny thing is to see the part these guys played in the 6 strings bass history : Carl Thompson, Ken Smith, Vinnie Fodera and even Stuart Spector, all four in New York at the same time catching and understanding the vibe in the air. What is the most edifying is that the name Contra Bass is from Ken Smith himself and that the best concept of the instrument (here the 6 strings bass) is by the same guy... 👍 Being a huge fan of Anthony Jackson, I now have other parts of the sound puzzle, thanks to you !
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You would be amazed by the very small amount of wax I put on it. This bass has certainly been waxed at least once a month to get it so shiny with so little wax. I've owned lots of basses with oil finish needing to be waxed and it's the first time it gets so shiny with no effort... 😉 If there weren't marks on the pickups and the fret board, I would have described it as pristine.
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Thinning down the herd, so selling the basses I don't use, and desperately trying to keep only one ... or two FOR SALE OR (PARTIAL) TRADE BASED ON THE NEW RETAIL PRICE (€5769 EUR for the "same" model in the Masterbuilt series ) : WARWICK Streamer Stage II 4 strings with the rare afzelia body, wenge/afzelia hidden-neck-through and Yin-Yang mother-of-pearl inlays (August 1991) ! Asking price including shipping fully insured with tracking number to your place in these European countries (ask for other countries) : Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France (excluding French overseas departments and territories), Germany, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and United Kingdom : £2200 GBP !!! In fully working condition and very good condition for a close to 28 years old bass. Here are the specifications confirmed by Hans Peter WILFER : Body : 3 pieces solid afzelia wood Neck : wenge with afzelia strips in hidden- neck-through construction Fingerboard : wenge with side dots and Yin-Yang mother-of-pearl inlays Frets : 24 bronze Warwick frets (dressed for the last time before I got it) Headstock : 2 + 2 shape Pickups : Bartolini JJ (option) Preamp : Mec 2 bands Controls : volume (active/passive), blend, bass and treble Tuners : Gotoh/Warwick GB7 (2 + 2) Bridge : 2 pieces solid brass Schaller/Warwick Strings spacing at bridge : 19 mm (adjustable) Nut : Warwick Just-A-Nut original brass version Strings spacing at nut : 10 mm Knobs : original Schaller metal Scale : 34" Hardware colour : gold (except for the Straplok that were only available in black at the time) Finish : original oil finish with Warwick bees wax surface finish Land of craftsmanship : Germany (08258 Markneukirchen) Serial number : H 711 91 (August 1991) Weight : 4,5 kilos Action : from 1,5 mm under the G string to 1.8 mm under the E string at 12th fret (without any buzz, the frets dressing job being very very good) Will come with a well padded used Rockbag gig bag or a Tobago leather one if you prefer it (and a soft case if shipped), black Dunlop Straplok flush mount and the 28 years old bees wax hard as concrete in a very nice very well used vintage Warwick can. Non-smoking environment as usual. It has some few marks, mainly on the pickups and fret board which has been dressed before I got it in a trade. I only cleaned it totally, waxed it and played it : very Stuart ZENDER sounding with more versatility thanks to the JJ Bartolini pickups coupled to the Mec 2 bands (active / passive) preamp. The bass is fully original (except for the strings and battery) and has never been touched (except for a new output jack fitted as the original one was dead) : it still has the screws for the pickups height and the screws under the metal dome knobs (no, it’s not a John EAST idea at all 😉). No frets buzz, no preamp noise, no humming noise, no pots scratching… All you have to do is plug it and play without fearing anything for the next 28 years. The bass has been fully set up professionally. It has a new battery and has been fitted with a brand new set of D'Addario EXL165 nickel wound strings (45-105). Link to Warwick Masterbuilt Streamer Stage II series : https://shop.warwick.de/en/Instruments/Electric+Basses/Warwick+Masterbuilt/Streamer/Streamer+Stage+II/Warwick+Masterbuilt+Streamer+Stage+II,+4-String+-+Natural+Oil+Finish,+Gold+Hardware What you see is what you get ! Look at the pictures taken to try to capture the beauty of the woods to see the real condition : some few marks, due to the age, but nothing serious at all. Don't hesitate to ask for more. Dust is offered.
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SOLD....KEN SMITH /JACKSON BT6 ( Fodera & Smith, New York 1985)
Hellzero replied to 1966powers's topic in Basses For Sale
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You forgot the strings and accessories revenue and their sub companies (sold or not) plus other incomes like using their name (which isn't free, just like for any well established company), master classes, ... , plus the fact that they are making more instruments than what they say, in fact close to 1000 a year (a luthier working alone is crafting around 60 instruments a year and if I take Leduc experience when he had 10 employees, he was making around 1000 instruments a year, so double the team and you can get up to 3000 instruments) and, suddenly, everything is fitting the tables. Also, just take a look at their hourly rate for servicing which is $150 USD, so at least twice the rate of any other luthier...
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So Richard Bona won't be playing on his awful sounding Fodera anymore. Let's see if this one sounds better. 😁
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I won't argue as I only have an European diploma in business management (I must be some kind of moron has I only got the highest distinction with 91%) among others, but if you can read, which is something I doubt, as I explained my analysis a few times in this thread, here is something interesting : https://bklyner.com/industry-city-maker-spotlight-fodera-guitars/ So they have 20 employees, making around 300 instruments a year with an annual estimated revenue of $10.700.000 USD. I'll let you do the maths as I'm too stupid to do it, but in a communist approach (as they seem to be philanthropic people) each of the employee would earn around $12.000 USD per month all taxes, running costs, expenses and investments deducted.
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Go to a real (I insist on the term real, because there are so many clowns around) luthier and ask him how much he would really charge you to hand craft the exact same bass. No need for electroshock, you'll get it for free. You know, the least expensive part in an instrument is the wood... If you want a list of retail prices for a similar bass or any high end boutique bass, here it is : Mike Pope preamp with the 3 switches : $374 USD Hipshot bridge : $155 USD Knobs : $60 USD Dunlop flush mount Straplok set : $22 USD Aero pickups set : $500 USD Gotoh tuners set : $100 USD Custom Fodera tool kit : $30 USD Teardrop hardshell case : $220 USD 2 way truss rod : £13 USD Slotted bone nut (in case they can't make it themselves) : $17 USD Stainless steel frets : $14 USD Aliphatic wood glue (hoping they are not using anything else) : $6 USD AAAA body woods : $300 USD AAAA neck woods including fingerboard : £250 USD Inlays : $20 USD Fodera strings (Anthony Jackson Signature, which are really good and the most expensive) : $71 USD Lacquer, masking tape, sanding paper and finishing supplies : $45 USD Screws : $3 USD Grand total for supplies at retail price : $2200 USD Cut this in two for their buying price as I've taken real high retail prices : $1100 USD Don't you think, they are making huge profits !?!
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You're welcome Tony. 👍
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I also had the same problem with the old Vigier or other basses I owned. It's an easy fix : pickup cavity is ungrounded and most of the time unshielded, and even if it's shielded with paint, aluminium or even coper, these cavities must be grounded (that said copper is the best shielding material as most of the shielding paint is not conductive and aluminium is a pain in the *ss to solder). I've done this to all my problematic instruments and now they are dead quiet, except for the single coil pickup typical humming, but there is always a quiet position when you play, don't worry. All cavities and bridge must be star grounded. I even shield and ground the pickup cover or simply the pickup itself, but it's something a bit tricky to do, because you can short the pickup... If you don't want to shield all your problematic instruments, just buy this cable : http://d-buz.com