TG Flatline

BOOM. It works, octaver on the way. Added the Green Mile to get the discount code. Let's keep this from the missus, eh? Ha!

[quote name='BluRay' timestamp='1351850116' post='1856085'] Maybe the AMB115 was partly the culprit? I got rid of mine for that reason. The 10s on their own seem to cut through much better. [/quote] That was my initial thought, so I AB'd them and didn't notice a great deal of difference with either cab honestly

[quote name='phatbass787' timestamp='1351712390' post='1854570'] Love my Ashdown cabs and damn you must be in a loud band as Ashdown cabs seem to do the job pretty well for Foo Fighters, Entwistle, JJ Etc ;-) [/quote] Should probably clarify, I was using ABM 410s and 115s. They are happy to go loud, and on their own sounded fine, but certainly not a "clear" sound once everyone else was playing. I had a far better time when borrowing a 212 Schroeder and with my current BFM cabs. The ABM minis I used to have before the 410 and 115 were ace as a mini solution, but only for backline and they just couldn't kick out enough to be used without PA support. Can't stress enough how ace the ABM head is though!

I love my Evo3 head, but found Ashdown cabs a bit lacking in a band situation personally.

Quick option may be to get in touch with Dave Hall, he brought out a micro blender recently and, depending on his circuit, I'd imagine switching from a blend control to two level controls might not be an issue. [url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page55a.html"]http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page55a.html[/url]

Building from the ground would be starting from scratch, entirely new pedal I'll drop you a PM

Marsy - The Bassdrive is a pretty simple circuit, but an expensive pedal, and modding it would likely hammer you on the re-sale value. If that doesn't bother you I'll happily implement those mods for you, alternatively I can point you in the direction of how to do it yourself, or build it for you from the ground up. Shoot me a PM if any of that interests you! Gillento - The RC is another relatively simple circuit you could easily mod, but again you'll get burned on the re-sale value if you do so. I'd probably say the best solution to both would be to stick boost and drive in a loop pedal and use that as a master switch for both pedals I too have only just noticed the original post date after having written all this. Ha!

Thanks to the OP! Pitch Box and Ana Delay on the way. I too was holding out for the Pure Octave...

I build mine from scratch. Clean blend plus adjustable mids make for a far more usable Big Muff!

In need of a band after split of long-term band! Spent the last 3 years doing this - [url="http://www.myspace.com/stonerunmusic"]http://www.myspace.com/stonerunmusic[/url] - but this has unfortunately come to an end, so I'm looking for something to get stuck into. Influences vary massively from Prodigy/Faithless type stuff all the way through southern rock to Mastodon/Bring Me The Horizon kind of heavy. Apologies for how vague that is! I've got decent gear, a professional attitude, and I'm straight up honest with people. Looking for folk with a similar approach!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1343905615' post='1757059'] I had exactly the same experience with my BFM Jack 12. Those Jacks do chuck it out, and it goes everywhere! [/quote] Same here as well. Two Jack 15's for me. Sounds the same across the stage and I don't have to be as loud (subjective term obviously!) as I did before. Very rarely get chance to have a wander as bertbass says, but I can tell the difference on stage at least.

In summary, the scientific/techy reason given against the 4x10 is the relatively poor dispersion for that particular alignment of speakers, which would defeat the object of having speakers which give better dispersion than a 15, for example, in one box. One of the potential scientific/techy suggestion would be to put those same speakers in a vertical alignment to maintain the core "sound" of the cabinet whilst improving the dispersion, or to use two vertically stacked 2x10's. Same tone/sound, but better dispersion. That [i]roughly[/i] answers the original question, from a certain point of view, though this has been written on more than one of the previous 9 pages by people with more knowledge than I possess. It doesn't mean you aren't allowed to like 4x10's, it doesn't make you a bad person or a worse player. Personally, I'm far more impressed with my 2x15 vertical arrangement in "new style scientific/techy cabs" than I am with the 4x10, 1x15, 4x8, and other 1x15 "good old style" cabs I had previously. All that has been said all the way through it from the scientific/techy side of things is that by using cleverer cabinet design you can build a cabinet that provides you with a more consistent sound across the stage and around the room. That is the crux of it, and that is [i]one[/i] of the answers to the original question, is it not? My answer to the original question is that I have found, through my experiences, that without angling a 4x10 or putting it on top of another cab, most of the sound is hitting my knees and the faces of the audience rather than my ears. If I need backline for monitoring only (probably 90% of my gigs) then I would be better off with either a taller cab or would need something else to put my cab on top of to make it more useful as a monitor.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1341233357' post='1715422'] And the assumption of the "amateur experts" that they know best because they read the book is an arrogance that I don't accept. There you go. Denigrating the experience of others and belittling their opinions when you haven't heard them. Snake oil comes at us from all directions, as it did when I was being told that mixed speaker sizes couldn't work. [/quote] That's a slightly hostile post, and ironically quite arrogant in itself. Everything I've posted has been based on my own experiences and not because I've "read the book" - I haven't. I'm not a speaker manufacturer or an "amateur expert". But arming yourself with a bit of knowledge to try things that are designed to sound better seems like a good idea to me. If what I've posted has come across the way that you have described it then, with respect, I don't think you read it properly or I maybe could have been a bit clearer, either way, calm down lad.

Exactly, they're designed to work together. Your Ashdown/Ampeg/Trace Elliot etc etc etc cabs with different speaker sizes won't be.

The only way is to play through as many cabs as you can and see what you like about each one. After using Ashdown ABM cabs for ages (mini 1x15 and 4x8, 1x15 and 4x10, and then just 4x10) I know I won't be buying any of them again, unless I needed to go back to the very compact size of the minis. To me they sound like you've got a blanket over the cabs, they sound dull and "thick" but not full or fat or bulked out with lows, nor did they cut through in a band mix without some fairly excessive EQ'ing. Even then it was a compromise. I now use two BFM Jack 15's. Complete overkill but never mind. They are very loud and very clear (even without tweeters), far more so than any of the Ashdowns. Better cabinet design and higher quality speakers in this case having far more impact than speaker size. If I was making the above choice, I would choose a 2x12 over a 4x10 any day. I would like to have two BFM Jack 2x10's at some point (more overkill), but they would be vertically stacked so not a traditional 4x10 by any stretch of the imagination. Whilst I say that the best thing to do is to try as many cabs as you possibly can, I think it also makes sense to read as much of the information on the Barefaced website so you can have a bit more knowledge to work from. Someone mentioned the "3 bed house" analogy above, a good one I think. Consider getting yourself a bit more clued up on the tech side of things as doing a reccy of the area the houses are in so you know you're not moving into a nice house in a sh*tty area. One thing I would say from experience (and that you would read on Barefaced or the BFM forum) - don't mix speakers. Use tens, or twelves, or fifteens - but not a combination. If you want to combine different speakers for mids and highs etc either buy an EAD Foundation 212 or build a BFM Omni. Good luck with the search. At the very least I would suggest the 5 questions posed by BigRedX are essentials

Clean blend on the drive, light chorus after the drive and before the amp - both good places to start IME

[IMG]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/tgflatline/BuffNBlend.gif[/IMG] That's from [url="http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/blocksfragments/"]http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/blocksfragments/[/url] Remove R4, you simply use the Volume on your Big Muff to control the level. Depending on which Big Muff you have, you won't need R5 either, but it's not something you need to worry about particularly. You need to cut the wire that goes from your bypass switch to the input of your Big Muff circuit, and connect it to the input of the BuffnBlend instead. The Effect Send connects to the input of the Big Muff. Cut the wire that runs from the output of the Big Muff circuit to the bypass switch - attach the Big Muff output to the Effect Return, and the BuffnBlend output to the bypass switch. I haven't got a vero layout to hand, but it's simple enough to draw again so I'll do it when I get back to work tomorrow (very busy obviously!) [url="http://www.doctortweek.co.uk/"]http://www.doctortweek.co.uk/[/url] for all your parts needs. Shout up if you need any help, sure between me and Al we can help you out

[quote name='AttitudeCastle' timestamp='1339008029' post='1682422'] Try using a clean blend using something like a BOSS LS-2 or by getting a Muff modded with one, [/quote] Clean blend is what you're after here. The LS-2 is the quick easy route, and having an LS-2 to hand is never a bad thing as they are a proper swiss army knife. If you fancy a project you could look at modding your Muff by adding a blender like the Buff'n'Blend, Paralooper or B.Blender relatively easily. Buff'n'Blend is the easiest and requires the least amount of room and performs perfectly well. I have a Big Muff blended this way and it sounds mint, far better to my ears than the Bass Big Muff I had previously. Good luck with it

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1335359736' post='1629796'] FWIW, I started off with 210 and 115 cabs but I later added another 210. This gives me the option to have a 410 stack arranged vertically (which is the supposed ideal) and having two cabs means for a lighter lift. Works for me. [/quote] This would be my suggestion. Either two 2x10's stacked vertically or two 1x15's stacked normally. I used Ashdown cabs for ages and the mix of 15s and 10s didn't do a great deal for me. Lots of loud but not much clarity. Both sounded far better on their own, but I hadn't yet unlearned that 15s are for bass and 10s are for mids and highs....

[quote name='Al Heeley' timestamp='1335181566' post='1626736'] I spent 2 hours trying to debug a tubescreamer once when I realised I hadn't actually put the op amp chip in the socket. How I laughed. Not. [/quote] Ah yes, an old favourite! I too have had the good fortune to experience the rage that comes following such folly!!!

[quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1334320552' post='1614447'] Looking at the mcmeat layout it should be possible to split the circuit over 2 smaller sandwiched boards to keep it to a smaller footprint. It'll be a REALLY tight fit in a 1590B... Probably have to use those 9mm alpha pots. We'll see. I have some perf board, a 1590B and 1590BB at home somewhere so I'll maybe have a go at laying it out to fit in the smaller one. Really it's not a big issue - I'm replacing a big box qtron after all - I've seen smaller cars in Japan... [/quote] This would be rather impressive! I also agree there would be very little fun in not making it!!!

The BFM Jack 2x10 that has been linked further up would be a good idea and certainly my suggestion. Also, listen to what Mr Foxen says as he is speaking truth!

Excellent, let me know how you get on, I shall do likewise! I'm almost certainly going to hardwire a Muff into the FX loop on mine on a toggle rather than have an external loop, but I like the buffered bypass idea too so will be interested to see that! I've got the Madbean octaver on my board, it's ace. I've not found much need for two octaves down, but you can get some great tones by balancing 1 down, clean and 1 up. Madbean are going to do an octave down that will fit in a 1590A soon as well, that will be a must have. That would be the one i'd want housed in with the Meatball, purely for space within the box - the Madbean Pearl clone is a big board, needs a 1590BB on it's own!

That's the one I'll be using Not sure where I got Lovepedal from, I have corrected the mistake!

I'd be tempted to go for an EQ rather than the Mole for that to be honest. Mole has it's place, but it wouldn't be for that, I'd have a gander at something like the Boss GEB7 instead.