gareth

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1334575019' post='1617760'] I traded my Stingray (2EQ Rosewood) for a P ('78 Maple) ten years ago and have no regrets. The MM was superior in terms of build quality and had superb playability, but the tone was just not right for me. As soon as I played the P I knew I preferred it to the 'Ray. The P is heavier and there are gaps in the neck pocket, but it just felt and sounded right for me. I'd say that MMs are as popular as a bass can be. If it's not a P or a J. [/quote] i like it

[quote name='Machines' timestamp='1333870210' post='1607464'] That's a beauty gareth, what year is it and how does it sound ? [/quote] oh thank for that yes its an early one, 1983 i think sounds great i really am a sucker for passve g&l's i am also a sucker for crazed finishes, especially in white that has mellowed to cream

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[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1333391826' post='1601104'] Yes, both arrangements are used, so not definitive from Sadowsky unless he's only talking about his own basses. My Takamine B10 has side dots between the lines and I used to have a Jazz with them on the lines. To me, on the lines makes much more sense but some prefer the other way and anyway, as has been pointed out several times already, it's a cheaper manufacturing process to use the same neck as would be used for a fretted instrument. [/quote] Yes roger is just refering to his basses Hey good to talk again

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1333381413' post='1600904'] I had a Fender Jazz lined fretless with dots at the lines and not between them. [/quote] [quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1333382248' post='1600924'] Um, I'm with Dave Gareth, I think Roger must be talking about Sadowsky's, as despite my rant in the first post, there's loads of fretless basses that have dots on the lines (or where the lines would be). My Ric certainly has, and my recemtly departed Takamine B-10 is the same, as was the case with both my maple fretless Precisions (both 70's originals) [/quote] i think the point is that either way of positioning the dots is ok and is used by bass makers I had wrongly assumed that cos a bass had front and side board markers in the same position as a fretted neck, then this must infer that is has been de-fretted rather than being that way from new here are another thread covering this topic:- [url="http://fretlessbass.com/viewtopic.php?p=784&sid=5d1023ab801c837cd2897c0654b5b5c7"]http://fretlessbass.com/viewtopic.php?p=784&sid=5d1023ab801c837cd2897c0654b5b5c7[/url] and here is warmoth giving the buyer a choice- [url="http://www.warmoth.com/bass/necks/Fretless_lined.aspx"]http://www.warmoth.com/bass/necks/Fretless_lined.aspx[/url]

[b]definitive answer from roger sadowsky himself:-[/b] [b]i emailed:[/b] roger thanks i just did not think lined fretlesses would have dot position markers on the board and side dot markers not in line with the lines but before the note as on a fretted board cheers gareth he replied:- Dots on a lined fretless are always the same as a fretted neck. Roger so "hear this" to the basschatter that said my lined fretless ray had been de-fretted and was not original factory spec!