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Thanks for the posting the link. Yes, some magical stories.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1478728859' post='3171310'] I play with a keys player who said "I like playing with you because you don't just stick to the roots and that frees up my left hand to do something other than the bass. [/quote] I see this written quite a lot on Basschat (not really aimed at you Tim). Why are Keyboard players in covers bands playing Bass lines? There are plenty of things to cover, Keyboard wise - Like the Keyboard part for example. Or Stg/Horn section lines. If playing a cover that has no Keys part, just play light 'Pads'. Or just drop out and come in on the chorus etc...but playing Bass lines?

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1478701254' post='3171037'] The words "embellish the bass part" and "country music" don't belong in the same universe, I'm afraid. Embellishment in country is for the guitar, steel, fiddle or any of the melody instruments, but NOT the bass player, I'm afraid. Sorry. Just have to play the bag and save the adventurous stuff for another time. [/quote] This. The best way to get 'The Never Again' on a Country gig is over playing, oh, and not really knowing the tunes.

I think you are talking about 'Shake'. Marlowe DK covers this at about 4:00 (FunkyTrills and Shakes - All the Video is worth watching) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VltgV3ZsCvo[/media] He also covers the various vibrato techniques. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rmRgkL8hPg[/media] The 'Shake' is still a kind of trill, so it still has to have note value to sound in the groove. (8th/16th's Demi Semi Quavers etc) Just random speed shakes can sound messy and not funky at all.

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1478637340' post='3170559'] Only just discovered this thread, where has it been hiding? Anyway, as at least 75% of the posts simply say 'missing plugin' I might not be getting the full benefit of Basschat wisdom, but has no one mentioned Dutch band Focus, who had two hits simultaneously with 'Sylvia' and "Hocus Pocus'? Both of which feature some stunning guitar playing by Jan Ackerman. [/quote] It's difficult really. I agree with you, they were a big band. Whiter Shade of Pale was considered a one hit wonder (one of the biggest). Yet Gary Brooker and Procol Harum had seven chart singles in this country over eight years (1/6/50/44/13/22/16). Definitely an Album band.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1478627823' post='3170442'] Bass as a melodic and lead instrument is as valid as virtually any other instrument. It's people's narrow-mindedness that's the problem. People have preconceived ideas of what an instrument should, and shouldn't do. [/quote][quote name='dood' timestamp='1478627995' post='3170447'] x1M [/quote] Add another X1M to that.

[quote name='tinyd' timestamp='1478608880' post='3170236'] Not sure if this is quite what you're looking for but some Cuban tunes do a nice job of using both time signatures at once - Afro Blue by Mongo Santamaria is a good example. The conga pattern is 6/8 (or 12/8) but the bass line is 3/4. When you play it, you feel either the "1-2-3" of the bassline or the "one-and-uh, two-and-uh" pulse of the congas. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbE7jf_Hp5w[/media] [/quote] Blimey, not heard that for a while. Thanks for posting. Actually what I mean is a bar of 6/8 alternating with a bar of 3/4. Like this. [URL=http://s536.photobucket.com/user/lowdown1957/media/Capture_2.jpg.html][IMG]http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff330/lowdown1957/Capture_2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[quote name='CrackerJackLee' timestamp='1478555395' post='3169922'] I look at a bar gig only as a practice session. a glorified practice... It saves you renting a practice room. It takes your regular rehearsal to a more intense level. But bar/pub owners get no respect or consideration from me. They pay the bartenders, servers, the people who make the beer and liquor, the guy who sweeps the floor, repairs their roof, their cooks, their accountants... they pay everyone and take a profit... BUT they don't pay the musicians... and if they do, it barely pays for gas... you carry your gear to the car, load the car, get gas, drive, park, unload, carry, set-up... then you play four hours... buy a beer and a sandwich... then break down the gear, carry, load the car, read the parking ticket, stare at the new dent in the fender, drive home at 1:30 in the morning, unload, place your gear in the house, and collapse on the couch... all for $37.55...you actually lose money to play in a bar... and you ain't gonna make it anyhow... my band is now only interested in outdoor events... more exposure - no drunks - no owners... like a day trip... family is free to hang out or shop... enjoy the day... get home at a decent hour... to hell with bars... working for free is slavery. Enjoy...! [/quote] [URL=http://s536.photobucket.com/user/lowdown1957/media/15032842_10210182613814706_6041348352195493846_n.jpg.html][IMG]http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff330/lowdown1957/15032842_10210182613814706_6041348352195493846_n.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1478562296' post='3169994'] Where's the like button ? [/quote] Me as well. I make that a double stop like.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1457955085' post='3003243'] Manhattan transfer- d'mour [/quote] Manhattan Transfer !!! Sorry, I am not having that one. (To be honest they were always more of an Album band). I have seen them a couple of times and they were terrific. They had a few Singles. [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manhattan_Transfer"]https://en.wikipedia...hattan_Transfer[/url] They did a great version of 'Birdland' [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHvsaVTrzQ[/media] 'Twightlight Zone' was a great tune (IMO) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTyhycwZMa4[/media]

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1478360294' post='3168623'] And do you know what "one hit wonder" means.? [/quote] I think fleabag was given a big opportunity. [quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1457818960' post='3002140'] Which one-hit wonders that you love? You are welcome to interpret 'one-hit wonder' quite liberally: [list] [*]A literal one-hit wonder such as Carl Douglas's Kung-Fu Fighting [*]A supernova type going from obscurity to heights of fame with a few hits and back to obscurity very quickly. Think Billie Piper. [*]A performer or band who were around for decades but are only really known for a song or two. Think The Proclaimers. [/list] [/quote]

[quote name='LZD56' timestamp='1478303553' post='3168382'] & his solo here with Bill Laurence on Bill's new dvd is amazing. Such feel. [url="https://youtu.be/ft8pD-hB2aI"]https://youtu.be/ft8pD-hB2aI[/url] [/quote] That sounds great. Think I will have to order the DVD. Thanks for the heads up.

[quote name='Leonard Smalls' timestamp='1478281844' post='3168208'] It's a bloke with dirty hands doing terrible things to a bird... In a tank. [/quote] That's not dirty hands. It's a bloke with rubber gloves doing terrible things to a bird... In a tank.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1478279568' post='3168172'] Loads of examples in classical music - search for "hemiola". Wikipedia says "[color=#252525][font=sans-serif]This figure is a common African [/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_pattern"]bell pattern[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif], used by the [/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausa_people"]Hausa people[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif] of [/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria"]Nigeria[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif], in [/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou_drumming"]Haitian Vodou drumming[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif], Cuban [/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_(religion)"]palo[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif], and many other drumming systems. The figure is also used in many sub-varieties of the Flamenco genre ([/font][/color][url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buler%C3%ADas"]bulerías[/url][color=#252525][font=sans-serif], for example), and in various popular Latin American musics."[/font][/color] [/quote] Yes, I am aware. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I meant popular or well known tunes other than my two posts, that were specifically alternating 6/8 + 3/4 two bar combinations. There is a 'Ravel' String example, but most write up or theory studies always seem to quote the 'America' and '633 Squadron' themes. I suppose they are the most popular, or well known tunes outside of Latin music/Flamenco varieties or extreme classical pieces that use that time sig combination.

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1478181564' post='3167336'] Seeing as someone mentioned Mr Buble, have you heard this? [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgmFXye1FLc"]https://www.youtube....h?v=KgmFXye1FLc[/url] [/quote] Blimey, have you heard the band on this (BBC live)..... Amazing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04f2lvr

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1478270098' post='3168075'] I've changed my mind...a bit 9/8 is the greatest time signature since Claude Debussy's 'Clair de Lune' is the greatest piece of music ever written. There I've said it. [/quote] Actually I have changed my mind as well (from 7/8). I realized I like two time signatures alternating. Specifically 'America' from 'West Side Story' and '633 Squadron'. 6/8+3/4....(Well the main themes). Two divisions that are very pulsating and driven, yet very natural in feel. I can't think of any other tunes/pieces/cues with a 6/8+3/4 combination? Interesting/clever that Ron Goodwin used the Squadron numbers in the time sig. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXQUhBsUVM[/media] Some Latin Cross Rhythms in the intro. Terrific writing from the great Bernstein. West Side Story still blows me away musically. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB4lOWfgD5s[/media]

The Beatles, maybe one of the best urban legends? "I believe they are a popular beat combo, m'lud". Huge contribution to pop music, no doubting that. You don't have to like them, but as a musician, you can't deny that they wrote some great songs.

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1478191404' post='3167447'] He had two other top ten hits and two more top-twentiers - hardly a one-hit wonder! [/quote] [color=#000000][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif][size=3]"America may have had Elvis, but we had Jimmy Nail"[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif][size=3] [/size][/font][/color][color=#000000][font=Roboto, arial, sans-serif][size=3] [/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='gareth' timestamp='1478190625' post='3167434'] [url="https://youtu.be/4iF47M3YDlg"]http://youtu.be/4iF47M3YDlg[/url] [/quote] I think Guy Pratt's Bass line on that is terrific.

^^^^ Not sure what has gone on font wise. I only took the 's' out of 'https'.....

[color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]After doing some Google homework, It seems 'Walking in Memphis' BY Marc Cohn is classed as a one hit wonder. [/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]Love the tune and the Piano playing. I am not really one for getting into lyrics, but there are some great lines in there.[/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5YGWS5H84[/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]After more digging, 'The Way It Is' by Bruce Hornsby is also down as a one hit wonder.[/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]https://ragmamarag.wordpress.com/tag/one-hit-wonders/[/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]Both similar in style. Again great Piano playing.[/size][/font][/color] [size=2] [/size][color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]Seems that apart from Elton John and Liberace, Singing Piano players are a thumbs down in this country. [/size][/font][/color] [color="#222222"][font="Helvetica Neue, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif"][size=2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOeKidp-iWo[/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1478184462' post='3167368'] A local lad stevie riks does these great vids. check out these [/quote] He is great. Love his 'Bee Gees Misheard Lyrics'. Oh man, so funny. Top geezer.

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1478181564' post='3167336'] Seeing as someone mentioned Mr Buble, have you heard this? Possibly one of the worst covers I've encountered in recent years. [/quote] Stonking band and terrific arrangement. Not keen on that vocal performance at all. Twee....and ...err... 'Polite'...

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