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[quote name='GarethFlatlands' timestamp='1477240385' post='3160788'] Well the trombone is pitched to Bb so you're playing a Bb when the sheet music tells you it's a C. I never got why brass instruments did that, used to drive me nuts when I played trumpet. [/quote] I thought you only transposed the Trombone when written in treble clef (tone up), like British Brass Bands do? Otherwise it's all Bass clef and not transposed? Or have I got that wrong?

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1477231330' post='3160711'] It's all about context though. A band with bass, guitars, drums, keys and two vocals using track to add a little something on a big arrangement like a 70s disco tune is completely different to one man with an acoustic guitar using tracks for bass, drums, keys, horns, electric guitar etc etc. [/quote] A sensible, professional view.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1477051805' post='3159524'] Probably quite a few but 2 that stand out for me is the bass riff from mid section of Tom Sawyer by Rush. Just a catchy little riff that sounds great at that particular section of the song and then there's the bass line from Elton Johns Nikita which just has a nice mid punch and gorgeous tone. Not even sure if it is a bass or a bass synth but i like it. Dave [/quote] Yes, lovely tone and excellent playing. David Paton on a defretted Musicman. I love how the line develops and builds. [quote name='funkgod' timestamp='1477054687' post='3159550'] Has to be the one that made me pick up the bass in the first place 35 years ago, and the one i still aspire to, Squib cakes. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJH0x1CTho"]https://www.youtube....h?v=pvJH0x1CTho[/url] a track on my all time fave album Tower of Power Back to oakland, my daughter has just found a mint copy for my birthday, iv now got the old one framed in the studio. all the Inspiration i will ever need is contained right there. [/quote] One of my favourite all time albums as well. I still have my Vinyl copy upstairs somewhere. Apart from stunning playing from Rocco and David Garibald on the album, the Brass and Wind Harmonizing is top dollar. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLVRGb7g7Q&index=3&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media] Oh go on then. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7T5rVp6hWA&index=5&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media]

[quote name='Dasher' timestamp='1477053328' post='3159536'] I have it, mainly because it is synced to a StudioOne 16.0.2. Having said that I have it, I "think that I have it" as I use Studio One 3 'Artist'. It isn't exactly 'free' but comes packaged with Presonus hardware and it is certainly a light version of 'full'. From what I have seen and used of it so far, it would appear that the only place that my version is really lacking is on the Mastering side. The Presonus learning resources are, as has been mentioned in an earlier post, readily available and they certainly helped me find my way around it. I'm new to DAW use - but have had 20 years using a Roland VS 880. It's a very different world but I've not found the SW too difficult to work with. I've definitely not got the results that I'm looking for yet, and use the Presonus Tutorials frequently, but I am getting there. One thing that I have noticed is that, in the Roland world, I made good use of the in-board effects in the expansion pack but I'm already thinking in terms of buying a good rack mounted external reverb unit (and probably more). [/quote] Normally between this time and Christmas, including Black Friday, Presonus do really good deals. Usually the upgrade from 'Artist' to the Full version is heavily discounted - Keep your eyes peeled.

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1476961304' post='3158799'] I know two professional composers - they do adverts, TV soundtracks, corporate stuff, all kinds really...all in the box. Not a real instrument in sight. It's just easier and faster to use software From what I've seen the majority of folks don't give a hoot about the individual components of a piece of commercial music, if it hits what the client wants then you get paid. [/quote] This really. Also, on Film and bigger TV budgets, producers and directors like to have an idea of what the cues are going to sound like before the final sessions on the scoring stage or in the studio starts. That way no time and money is wasted changing or rewriting cues and charts. Software midi mock ups are very big business with some exceptional, expensive libraries knocking around. Indeed, some of those mock ups end up making it onto the final music soundtrack. Virtual Instruments have been around for years, nothing has changed, other than another Bass VSTi has turned up to play on your gig. Most of the music you hear on TV drama is software recorded, with the occasional 'real' Instruments added in. The 'ModoBass' is physically modeled as well. Pretty cool piece of software. [media]http://youtu.be/xHaTzEC8XmI[/media]

It's equally in the programming (after performance), also real time key switching for articulations and of course, thinking how a Bassist would play. The 'Modo Bass' is just fine. Sure soloed, it's clear it's Sample patches. But layering in amongst an Orchestration it would be very passable. I believe our very own Bubinga5 was sucked in by the 'Scarbee Musicman Bass' on a 'Incognito' track, until someone came forward to point it out. I must admit, it sounded pretty good, very musical. But then again, it was played an programmed by an outstanding Musician who knew what he was doing. Just like any real Instrument, it depends who is on the end of it.

[quote name='Jazzjames' timestamp='1476891632' post='3158190'] Ray Brown on Night Train - Oscar Peterson. Great feel, note choice, and a super solo! He really made the bass sing. [/quote] Haha... Been listening to that a lot today. My older boy was transcribing Ray's lines and the solo from that tune. Lovely Bass tone as well.. In fact, superb stuff all round from some of the masters of swing.

The intro to this tune reminds of the intro to Jumpin' Jack Flash.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1476733496' post='3156828'] Not round this way - they only want Eddie Calvert tribute acts [/quote] He was playing James Bond themes before they were even written. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHtlZucvfmk

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1476782332' post='3157115'] For 'normal' playing it'd be Anthony Jackson. His playing on everything is amazing [/quote] He does have a habit of taking your breath away. Superb, I never tire of listening to him. Even after all these years, I still hear things from him that will floor me.

[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1476778987' post='3157074'] [url="http://www.instituteofbass.com/subscribe/sample.pdf"]http://www.institute...ribe/sample.pdf[/url] which has pages and pages of rhythm variations, set your metronome to a slow speed and pick a page at random [/quote] Similar to the Louis Bellson 'Modern Reading Text in 4/4'. The LB book has triplet and tied note variations.

Just love Anthony Jackson on the Michel Camilo track 'Not Yet' (New York Band). Jaw dropping moment for sure.

[quote name='AdamWoodBass' timestamp='1476719449' post='3156632'] It is yeah and I have been put in embarrassing situations before where I've taken a gig last minute and not been able to read the charts. Sometimes you can get away with it because the band may be almost entirely made up of deps so you can pretty much busk it as long as you already know the tune. Other times you're playing with the band leader and they're listening to every note you play because they're deciding whether to book you again. They know you're not reading the chart so you don't get called back. Like I said before it's a bit of a source of embarrassment for me! [/quote] Fellow Basschatter, 'sixist', has a whole bunch of real world charts for a tenner donation (Great value). A great selection of various styles that will keep you busy for a while [url="http://www.sixist.co.uk/transcriptions.html"]http://www.sixist.co...scriptions.html[/url] These would be very helpful for practise from what you have been saying. They are all well known tunes and would give you good practise workouts with plenty of varying rhythms, keys and chord sequences.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1476702333' post='3156368'] Didn't quite mean it that way, not matching the fee but upping it. [/quote] Do you mean approaching a bar manager with a poster in one hand (of your band supporting at Wembley stadium)? while blowing a super 'C' on a Trumpet being held with the other hand (Maynard Ferguson style)? That should work. I agree with you.

[quote name='AdamWoodBass' timestamp='1476704106' post='3156394'] That's pretty much my thought process. I guess I'm just wanting to make sure I'm not investing a lot of time into the wrong things. [/quote] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Yes, I agree with Burns-bass as well. [color=#222222]And the next level should be (for good ear practise and pitching), put the transcription straight down onto paper/iPad or whatever, without the use of an Instrument.[/color] [color=#222222]Sing what you are transcribing, or listening to (ok, the voice is an Instrument, I know). Maybe you might not get the correct key centre (unless you have perfect pitch), but if you can get the intervals for the notes/chords down or close, [/color]it does wonders for developing your relative pitch (regarding ear training and busking).[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif] [/font][/size][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif] [/font]

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1476690204' post='3156213'] and the bass clef version I learnt was the less-than-satisfactory Good Boys Deserve Favour Always. [/quote] And when I was at College it was, Greedy Boys Deserve F**k All.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1476639898' post='3155880'] Sibelius, and sometimes pencil and paper. [/quote] Although I have to use Sibelius for work, I much prefer Notion since they introduced handwriting recognition. It works an absolute treat. You can use fingers or stylus for input of notes and articulations. I think it might have been you, Ambient, who was enquiring about this type of software last year sometime. If I remember right, it was Staffpad and Surface pro though? I take it you didn't go down that route? Notion is good for integrating between iPad iOS and the desktop version. Mac or PC.

I am from the Quill, Ink and Gas light days as well. These days I use iPad Air and Notion iOS for transcriptions. I can also do it on my travels. I save it all in the cloud and revisit when needed. Or print off, send as PDF etc. http://www.presonus.com/products/Notion-for-iOS

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1476259509' post='3152690'] Some disparaging comments about bedroom warriors do surface from time to time, and I don't like the condescension. [/quote] Comments about anything and anybody gets that treatment on Basschat and indeed the internet in general. 'Jaco' and extended range Bass Guitars spring to mind. The bedroom Bassist, along with the weekend warriors and fully signed up pro groups, will ALL have members who like to sling some disparaging comments in the direction of those two subjects quite happily. I did my first paid gig at fourteen and have gigged and worked musically ever since (now 59). Way of life for me. Not bothered about the audience side of it, I have sat in pits and back stage studios on headphones for months at a time, without ever seeing an audience. I like the buzz of working with other musicians, love the interaction and especially musicians from other cultures who bring something different to the table. Just 'noodling' at home on the Bass wouldn't do it for me. Although, I quite happily sit down at the Piano and play away on my own for long periods.

Someone with a Cuban cigar, a knowledge of theory and rhythm, went and messed with Beethoven's 5th. Talk about leaving your comfort zone and getting stuck into some reading. http://youtu.be/jafWlyfUabw

Try this place. You can customise what you need on the track. Not sure if they have the tracks you need. http://www.karaoke-version.co.uk/custombackingtrack/kc-and-the-sunshine-band/keep-it-coming-love.html I am sure there are plenty of these sites. Someone will come along with more I should imagine.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1475937654' post='3149940'] "up a bit, down a bit, no hold that one a bit longer, down a bit but not as far as normal then quickly back up a bit and stop, play the next notes but I'm not telling you what they are or for how long" [/quote] The 'Bernie The Bolt' method. I claim my fiver.

Obituary in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/06/rod-temperton-obituary

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1475875005' post='3149516'] I know a little bit of theory, but can someone who knows a lot more please explain to me how theory helps you pick the right notes to use depending on the style of music you are playing. [/quote] It's not just note choice, rhythm choice goes a big way in defining a style of music. [color=#141414][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Ruben Rodriguez would play I/IV/V as Tumbao and Adam Clayton as pumping rock Eighth notes (not knocking him by the way),[/font][/color] [color=#141414][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]Although I am sure you know this, BRX. [/font][/color] People get hung up on note choice, scales and modes when getting into theory. Rhythm plays an equal part as well. I would have thought all musicians use their ears, or should do. Some have better ears than others, regardless of what theory is known. Knowing theory doesn't hinder you in anyway when listening to music. In fact, you can name what notes or chords you are hearing. What's wrong with that? Certainly quicker when transcribing and you want to get it down onto paper. A yes please from me.

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1475861420' post='3149369'] I just tried on my last composition challenge piece That Place. So, this has 27 tracks, of which I put Neutron on 17 of them. Normal playback before I used Neutron had my CPU peaking at 70% usage (a 4ghz i7 4790k) with RAM usage around 11GB. After I put Neutron on, CPU peaked at 107% and RAM was pushing 14GB (out of 16GB). Playback really wasn't working! To be fair, 17 instances of it is a bit much and there's a fair bit going on in that track anyway. 16 or so tracks of Neutron is taking around 20 - 25% CPU usage. I'm kinda pushing my rig a bit with this track in the first place. In reality, I don't think it was designed to be thrown on this many tracks and if you're doing arrangements like this you're probably using a slave PC or two anyway. [/quote] I use Vienna VE6 pro. On just the one machine (can be used on multi machines even networking Mac and PC together). This hosts everything outside of your DAW, inc samples and Soft Instruments. Works a treat and does really free up CPU resources. I will be giving Neutron(s) a good run out tomorrow on an Orchestral project. It will be interesting how it pans out in that context. Been keeping an eye out over at VI Control, seeing if anyone has used it in that situation yet? Early days there. http://vi-control.net/community/threads/izotope-neutron.56352/page-4#post-3999665