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Core blimey, these singers, they 'ave the nerve to call themselves 'Weekend Warriors'. More Like Weekend Wendy's. You just can't get the staff these days.

Before anyone thinks that they can hide behind 'Hybrid Bagpipes' and get away with it, think again !! [url=https://postimg.org/image/f6tjp23qb/][/url]

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1468054797' post='3088289'] Would a pan and bag pipe duet be a travesty or a phallusy:) [/quote]

I am not sure where all this leaves Anthony Jackson. He uses a chair AND a music stand. On Big Band Charts, you don't need to turn pages. It's all so fast that you end before the page turn. Look here, AJ proves it from his chair. http://youtu.be/tZOCdrwGch4

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1467985437' post='3087829'] Every month I fancy having a go at this but alas the creative juices are just not flowing these days Hopefully I will shake myself up and get back involved sooner rather than later [/quote] Go on...All you need is some Panpipes and a Penus this month, possibly your own ? Although Skol seems keen to help out.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1467991534' post='3087922'] I went to see the Bootleg Beatles and they had orchestral backing, all with music stands, can't believe they needed them, it was well into the tour [/quote] The beauty of being a sight reader on shows (a regular show could be considered your 9-5 job), you can dep it out to other sight readers while you are out on a radio or TV broadcast, or a recording session, or are just bored of playing Beatles tunes for a while and fancy depping in a different Orchestra or show for a few days. You might have witnessed an Orchestra with of a lot of deps, or pick ups used in different towns that night, or the musical supervisor putting the pads out on the stands because he/she had no idea who was sitting in the Orchestra that night, or indeed that it's their job to put the music out for the performance regardless. Don't assume they are all musical numpties that 'ave no ears and can't learn a few Beatles tunes.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1467917080' post='3087333'] So cover bands in the UK are still playing Mustang Sally? [/quote] Very good, Blue. An excellent hand grenade.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1467977356' post='3087734'] I played for a short time (!) with a duo of guitarists who: (1) didn't take it into account that many of the song recorded were played on instruments tuned to Eb, so the players were using chord shapes as E so they emulated the pitch no matter how weird or unlikely the difficulty of playing the chord sequence (2) both used capos. (2) they used capos on different frets so they could 'voice the chords differently' (4) at the end of the day/performance they hadn't a clue what key they were really in as an E shape at the capo was, to them, always an E, so although one was capo'd at the 4the fret it was still E etc (5) they often changed key of a number between performances as they were mates and practiced together midweek on their own (6) The key change was often a surprise to me on stage. As I said, I played with them a short time..... G. p.s. Actually, when it was all OK they actually sounded quite good [/quote] Very funny story.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1467979391' post='3087757'] Even when I play in the local orchestra I learn the tunes so I don't have to use the music. I treat it like I was in a rock band again. I never look at it during the performance, eyes on the conductor. I am often surprised that even the Grade 8 players haven't memorised them. Some of them could sight read and transpose at the same time having never seen or heard the piece before. But not remember it after a term of rehearsals. [/quote] Agreed about watching the carver. But, It's not always about knowing and learning the charts, that's the easy bit. For reference in certain situations. If there is some kind of mess up on stage or elsewhere, then the Conductor or MD shouts out 'Bar 88..1.2.3', you just do it, or pre show there is section cut (for whatever reason), pencil in the cut. No messing around looking for the music, there is no time (unless you have memorised every bar number as well) the moment has gone. The pad is mostly for reference after a while. IE, tune order etc. It's a safety net. IMHO of course. [quote name='neilp' timestamp='1467977692' post='3087738'] Oh dear. Classical orchestras need them because we can't be expected to memorise all the notes, dynamics, tempo changes etc etc that we've rehearsed. In general, orchestral music is MUCH less repetitive than what most of us play and much more difficult to learn. In general, I learn the difficult bits, and carry on reading the easy bits, even in performance. The conductor? What's he for? Imagine how hard it would be for 80 musicians to deal with all the balance, tempo and expression details (MUCH more detail than we put into our performances) without some cues and help. It's a different world, so much more detailed. [/quote] All this as well.

[quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1467917887' post='3087343'] One of the best music lessons I had at school all those years ago was on intervals and how to recognise them by remembering which songs use them at the start (eg minor 2nd=Jaws theme, major 6th=My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean - amazing what you remember after 35 years!) There's a good site here with more examples: [url="http://www.madelinesalocks.com/MusicalIntervalsTutor/listenpg.html"]http://www.madelines...r/listenpg.html[/url] [/quote] I really should read through a thread before I post. I posted something similar to you this morning. (#63).

First two notes of The Star Wars theme are Root (I) and Fifth (V), Same for the ET theme. Somewhere over the Rainbow, Root (I) Octave (VIII), Jaws, no need to mention that interval, unless you are tone death of course, and so on for other tunes. For me, singing tunes I was familiar with and [i]consciously[/i] learning and knowing their intervals, was key to quickly training my ear (when I was younger). No short cuts, it's just a matter of putting in the work, same as learning an instrument.

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1467886032' post='3086954'] I suppose because I grew up in the pre-tab/Tab/TAB world, I have never seen the point in it. A lot harder to learn and apply than standard notation for me. I have to stop and think about which string I am supposed to be hitting and THEN which fret. Almost think writing out the letters for each note would be easier to follow quickly. Can you guys seriously sight read tab? [/quote] Same here. It was dots and ears for me. What I have seen of TAB, lacks in info, regarding a performance of Rhythms and articulations. Maybe it's there and I just don't understand the way it works. But hey ho, if it works for some and helps towards the goal, good luck with it

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[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1467879099' post='3086855'] Because it's hard enough finding one reliable keyboard player never mind 2 or 3? [/quote] Yer, but anyone can do it, you don't need a keyboard player, only a Keyboard or two. And a partner or two. They can just stand there with their left hand behind them and their right hand index finger triggering the arpeggiator.***

[quote name='troubadour' timestamp='1467834954' post='3086662'] [b]Esus4(b5)/A[/b] [/quote] . Some claim to hear a D# in there as well.

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1467840583' post='3086711'] You posted a link to something.... Normally people post links to entries in the challenge. It was a quip. Once scrutinised under the lamp of bad taste and the hue of shamelessness has been cast, it would appear that the humour is somewhat..... Lost. Forgive me. Let's move on. [/quote] No problem from me, and certainly no shame cast. Humour wasn't lost either, I just found it to be a crap joke.

Very first chord in the Pink Panther Theme. Name that chord. Don't try Googling, it will get you nowhere. http://youtu.be/9OPc7MRm4Y8

[quote name='zbd1960' timestamp='1467755884' post='3086037'] My favourite though is Erich Korngold - he wrote the music for the classic Errol Flynn films (e.g. The Sea Hawk (1940), Robin Hood etc). There maybe some relationship between Korngold's music and that of ... [url="https://youtu.be/V47enEvsafQ"]https://youtu.be/V47enEvsafQ[/url] (this is one example, there are others). Here's The Sea Hawk (played this last month) see what you think [url="https://youtu.be/C-RPzAbW7No"]https://youtu.be/C-RPzAbW7No[/url] [/quote] Haha. Yes, the (terrific) now classic Korngold scores, along with Steiner/Newman are considered the originators of the Cinematic scores. Without doubt, JW was influenced by them, along with the great Symphonies of course. Those type of scores started to vanish from the big screen, but JW at that time really did bring 'Epic' back to life and then others followed on etc. The two eg's you posted, to me, we're always little bit too close for comfort There is a good Podcast over at iTunes. 'The Man a Who Changed Movie Scores Forever' - Erich Korngold. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/explore-the-symphony/id264655083?mt=2&i=367370936

[quote name='zbd1960' timestamp='1467749965' post='3085964'] I've played the original full orchestral suite a couple of times in recent months in concert - the fugue is fiendish. The two excerpts I've pinned are from the full orchestral edition - cello part [/quote] Are you talking about the Shark Cage Fugue? If so, yes a right handful. The concerts sound like fun. All Williams material? Or mixed film? If you like John Williams material, there is a great web site with a ton of info on his scores. (You more than likely know the place, but if not). http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/forum/17-john-williams/

[quote name='phil.c60' timestamp='1467748684' post='3085950'] Collage? A bit of a sticky time for you perhaps? [/quote] Haha, I suppose It was all Arty and Party back then. Now fixed.

[quote name='zbd1960' timestamp='1467745377' post='3085883'] Having played this, it's 2 notes... with the odd third one... [/quote] I think Pete is talking about the very recognisable first bar of 'E' before the motif/theme starts. Full score here. https://musescore.com/user/7789886/scores/2076011 Condensed Piano score. https://musescore.com/user/282671/scores/1030571 Although not my arrangements above, I did study the score at college years ago, so I am, as my wife puts it 'A complete anal a*se*ole' when it comes to the score. And of course this. (it does change key when it pops up during the film - F/F# if I remember correctly) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV8i-pSVMaQ&index=44&list=PLTgVuOBoqUH6pgLqV_N7UrCgz_jUVEYBm

[quote name='BlackPrecision' timestamp='1467737707' post='3085789'] [b] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI"]Beethoven's 5th[/url][/b] [/quote] 5th Symphony T-Shirt fail. [url=https://postimg.org/image/ha160xxer/][/url]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1467730863' post='3085708'] Most people could recognise jaws from the note and note length of the first note, I'll name it in one! [/quote] It's funny how they can recognise it, yet sing it using a tone interval. Bizarre....

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1467567630' post='3084601'] Wow, that's sad to hear [/quote] I found it spooky that I had just been reading that article earlier, then noticed your picture. (The article was trending on Twitter). I suppose it can add another dimension for ideas. It certainly looks like an interesting place.

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1467668811' post='3085304'] Is this your entry??? [/quote] ?