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[quote name='TenLetters' timestamp='1440763618' post='2853624'] Thanks for the suggestions! [/quote] Hey TenLetters, I mentioned getting over to VI Control for some good advice about the serious String (Orchestral) Libraries I forgot to mention that you get some good people checking in there. At the moment you can get to hang out with Hans Zimmer..... The thread is about an interview between his daughter and himself, and he has started chipping in - His name is 'Rctec'. [size=2][url="http://vi-control.net/community/threads/hans-zimmer-interviewed-by-his-daughter.48174/"]http://vi-control.ne...daughter.48174/[/url][/size]

[quote name='heminder' timestamp='1440694069' post='2853072'] EDIT: On further reading their page, they're not even publishers. All they seem to do is be a troll and collect fees when they feel entitled to. They're the lowest of the low. [/quote] That's a bit unfair. Are you aware of what PRS do for Musicians and Composers, or why? It might be worth having a look here, it's part of what they do, and try to achieve. [size=2][url="https://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/press/latestpressreleases/Pages/pressarchive.aspx"]https://www.prsformu...essarchive.aspx[/url][/size] [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1440692424' post='2853059'] I'm optimistic... SoundCloud are already licensed with the US rights societies, but seem to need a bit more pressure to comply in Europe. [/quote] Yes , promising.

Looks like PRS and Soundcloud are having a domestic. Just received this Email. "PRS for Music to me 24 minutes agoDetails Dear Member, PRS for Music begins legal action against SoundCloud After careful consideration, and following five years of unsuccessful negotiations, we now find ourselves in a situation where we have no alternative but to commence legal proceedings against the online music service SoundCloud. When a writer or publisher becomes a member of the Performing Right Society, they assign certain rights to their works over for us to administer, so it’s our job to ensure we collect and distribute royalties due to them. SoundCloud actively promotes and shares music. Launched in 2008, the service now has more than 175m unique listeners per month. Unfortunately, the organisation continues to deny it needs a PRS for Music licence for its existing service available in the UK and Europe, meaning it is not remunerating our members when their music is streamed by the SoundCloud platform. Our aim is always to license services when they use our members’ music. It has been a difficult decision to begin legal action against SoundCloud but one we firmly believe is in the best, long-term interests of our membership. This is because it is important we establish the principle that a licence is required when services make available music to users. We have asked SoundCloud numerous times to recognise their responsibilities to take a licence to stop the infringement of our members’ copyrights but so far our requests have not been met. Therefore we now have no choice but to pursue the issue through the courts. We understand SoundCloud has taken down some of our members’ works from their service. With our letter of claim, we sent SoundCloud a list of 4,500 musical works which are being made available on the service, as a sample of our repertoire being used, so that they understood the scale of our members’ repertoire and its use on the service. We asked them to take a licence to cover the use of all our members’ repertoire or otherwise stop infringing. SoundCloud decided to respond to our claim by informing us that it had removed 250 posts. Unfortunately, we have no visibility or clarity on SoundCloud’s approach to removing works, so it is not currently clear why these particular posts have been selected by them given the wider issue of infringement that is occurring. Ultimately, it is SoundCloud’s decision as to whether it starts paying for the ongoing use of our members’ music or stops using these works entirely. If the streaming market is to reach its true potential and offer a fair return for our members, organisations such as SoundCloud must pay for their use of our members’ music. We launched our Streamfair campaign in June to raise awareness of this issue and highlight how music creators need to be properly remunerated from streaming. We believe that all digital services should obtain a licence which grants them permission to use our members’ music and repertoire, in this case the works of songwriters, publishers and composers. The streaming market cannot fairly develop unless this happens. We have always been pro-licensing and pro-actively work with organisations in order to propose an appropriate licensing solution for the use of our members’ works. We remain hopeful that this matter can be resolved without the need for extended litigation. Members will appreciate that this is now a legal matter and our ability to communicate around it is therefore limited by the legal process. However, we will try to share information and updates whenever we can. Please visit our website to read our frequently asked questions. Yours faithfully, Karen Buse Executive Director, Membership and International PRS for Music PRS for Music is the trading name for PRS for Music Limited which is a limited company registered in England under company number 03444246 whose registered office is at 2 Pancras Square, London, N1C 4AG. If you are no longer affiliated with PRS for Music and wish to stop receiving our communications please click here."

Marcus with the Orchestra concert is well worth a watch as well. [media]http://youtu.be/UrouueTnZYo[/media]

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1440593300' post='2852215'] I'd say they weren't that musically educated, but there you go..probably the wrong argument [/quote] It's quite possible, sixty odd members of the Berlin Philharmonic would say the same about you, if you crash landed into one of their concerts and tried your hand at one of their Symphonies...lol...

[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Personally I use VSL special editions 1 and 2, and the 1 and 2 plus. Loads of articulations, which are all very playable. The only problem for some folks is that the library is recorded dry. But the samples are pristine. The downside of this is you have to use you own verb tails and halls to position the instruments in their Orchestral seating positions. Although you can purchase extra verb, hall and studios of the world and the presets do the placements for you. But of course you can then mix and match with other vendor libraries very easily. The Instruments are both in full Symphonic set up as well as Chamber size. I also use Cinematic Strings, full Symphonic straight out of the box, very lush with all the Instruments in their positions. The articulations are limited to the basics, but beautiful, realistic sounding. The best Orchestral libraries out there with out a doubt are. The two above, the East West stuff, Project Sam, Spitfire Audio, Orchestral Tools, Cinesamples and L.A.S.S. They all come at a price, but most have cut down versions or you can buy sections one at a time. For Piano, I use Cinesamples 'Piano in Blue' V2. Nice sounding, with good velocity touch and playability. There are so many Piano libraries out there, it will always come down to your personal choice of sound in your head. I have my eyes on one of these Grand Pianos at the moment ( sale deals going on at the present). These samples always get good reviews, so worth checking out the demos. [url="http://www.sampletekk.com/grand-pianos"]http://www.sampletekk.com/grand-pianos[/url] If you have not done so already, get yourself over to VI Control. Everything you need with lots of very helpful experienced composers. All the info you need on libraries, composing for Orchestra, tutorials and all the new deals (usually discounted) regarding software. Just about everything 'Midi Mock Up'. [url="http://vi-control.net/portal/"]http://vi-control.net/portal/[/url] One thing worth considering if you are undecided, is the monthly library rental that is in place over at 'East West'. [url="http://www.soundsonline.com/?ref=subpage"]http://www.soundsonl...om/?ref=subpage[/url] Of course, getting convincing, real sounding Orchestral results is not just about the sounds, it is as much about knowing what Instruments work with what (voicing wise etc), and all the articulations involved, and use them how a real player would, along with Reverbs, Halls and seating placements in the mix etc.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Always a learning process, without a doubt. Good luck with the project.[/font][/size]

Perhaps one voter passed away before he could finish. I voted three times......M'lud.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1440520799' post='2851531'] I think there are a lot of gigging middle aged self taught musicians who's first knowledge of playing came through playing riffs like that. [/quote] No doubt about it.

Voted - Well done all.

It's actually making me feel sick posting this....but... 'Sunshine Of Your Love'. Back in the day, a music shop wasn't a music shop, unless some shop worker was sitting on top of a combo, banging it out loudly as you walked in, and straight out again.

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1440451550' post='2850954'] Having said that, with most of these guys, their chops are a product of deep musical knowledge, and those chops come from a genuine place rather than as a one off party trick. [/quote] Yep, I agree with that.

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1440167270' post='2848802'] I don't like the white title bars on all of the windows though. I liked the aero look much better. Can't get that Cortana thing to work either. [/quote] You can now download a small utility to change colours. http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7935-color-window-borders-title-bars-change-windows-10-a.html

I know Brad Lang did some of the Fretless stuff. I used to work for his dad (RIP), Bandleader and Trombone player - Don Lang. Yep, a good album with some seriously good musicians on it. Some great arranging as well.

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1440167270' post='2848802'] I don't like the white title bars on all of the windows though. I liked the aero look much better. Can't get that Cortana thing to work either. [/quote] Yep, that is annoying. I hope there is a way to change colour. There is in the Edge browser, although it is just to black. Been running for three weeks now, and I have to say, no problems on my DAW PC, or in fact, any of our home desktops.

[quote name='bassbiscuits' timestamp='1435319549' post='2807625'] Ah now I'm ok with Sir Duke, but only recently realised its in A flat, not A, which racks up the difficultly level a smidgeon... Kick ass tune tho. [/quote] Great tune and a great play for Bass. Original key is B major though.

Interesting... I got 898 with the mouse, but tapping on my iPad, 922.

[quote name='Bassjon' timestamp='1440062740' post='2847905'] I know its old and out of date now but my vote goes to Cubase. Its so simple even I can do it! [/quote] Why is it out of date? Just curious.

If not done already, try this when installing. Right click on installer, then Run as Administrator.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1439544979' post='2843686'] Yes. But for it to be music and not just noise, someone has to appreciate it as such. [/quote] Ah.....But English people love noise. [i]"The English may not like music, but they do love the noise it makes"[/i] [i]Sir Thomas Beecham.[/i] Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_beecham.html#0CBm5UiqidoLzlTf.99

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1439481619' post='2843284'] That might explain my problem working out what scale it was. [/quote] No problem. I was just wondering, why you might be complicating it.

For some reason, the OP wants to play the verse in Db (C#) and the chorus in D.

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1439473783' post='2843165'] Arguably G# appears as a passing chord. The bass plays the roots. [/quote] Yep, as does the C# as well.

Are you talking about 'The Undertones' version? Just had a quick listen (and that was too long ) on Da Tube. Sounds like it's in D major to me. D... /...C# / B minor../.. C# / etc (Bar Before the chorus an A major instead of the C#). Chorus. G G# A (all major). So all in all - Key of D Major. In the link bit, it sounds like a Dsus before the C#. Of course, If you are talking about another tune - Ignore my ramblings.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1439451632' post='2842886'] It's all over the place, but IIRC the main riff is in 7/8, then it moves to 5/4 for the F#-E section and then 4/4 for the guitar solo. [/quote] Originally Walters and Gilmour said it was in 7/8. Then some years later, Gilmour said it was 7/4. They might have thought 7/8 sounded more proggy and impressive.

Stevie Wonder, 'I Wish". Nathan Watts. Eb minor (Gb).