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[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1361056389' post='1980580'] Superb record, easily one of his best. It was pretty well received at the time, IIRC, and then it seemed to fade into obscurity for a bit behind some of his 70's stuff. But in terms of quality and consistency, it's right up there. Consistency is a big issue when you're listening to Stanley, he admits himself he often goes a while without producing a great record and he is man enough to look back and admit not everything he has done is stellar. Like the Clarke/Duke Project records. Instantly switch-offable fuzak, and Stan is one of my all time favourites! His best record, I reckon, and the best place to start with Stan, is [i]The Toys Of Men. [/i]It is absolutely superb stuff, top drawer music. It shows everything that Stan does, from bombastic fusion epics, to cool mood pieces on upright and acoustic basses, to funky, driving slap tunes. The production is top class and the cast list is as good as it gets. Truly, the stars had aligned for Stanley there! It still blows me away to listen to now. Often overlooked, but also quite amazing, the Animal Logic records. It's not typical Stan stuff, and he was slated for making those records, unfairly so I think. Some of the lyrics are a little cheesy, but as far as great songs and musicianship goes, they are great albums. Intelligent pop music made by musicians for musicians. They were moderately popular in the states at the time too because Stewart Copeland was playing the drums. Sadly they only made two albums, but they are great. Stanley wasn't giving it his lightning fast Return To Forever tricks, but he was playing in the pocket with some amazing lines. [/quote] Agree with pretty much all that..... And saves me a lot of typing as well.... Garry

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1360679439' post='1974460'] Just thought I'd bring up a point about the subjectivity of music because, well, it's a discussion board. But some people are opposed to that so not to offend them, I removed the thread. [/quote] People can't help you if you don't post your Computer spec in your sig. XP or W7/8 ? Mac...? Duo Core or Quad core ? How much RAM....? Are you using your on board sound card ? or a USB Audio Interface ? What nearfields ? or are you using headphones ? Because this stuff makes a big difference when listening to Bass sounds/Music. Hope this all helps while listening to Jaco. Garry

I caught this track a couple of days ago, and his like of the 70's [almost cop theme like] music is pretty strong here. Good stuff. Garry

Great stuff Andy [as usual]... Lots of clarity and solid ideas. Garry

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1360500799' post='1971239'] Cheers Garry, an interesting read! Had made me re-think my obsession with high sampling rates ;-) [/quote] Does give you something to think about, although i kinda just stayed with 44/24, Or for DVD work 48/24 [or48/16] so my puter didn't explode..... Good luck with this months mix up - lordy lordy, all those tracks.... Garry

Glad to to see all worked out fine, and people from BC helping out ...... So when will we see the said Bass in 'Basses for sale' ? 'Great Bass, have to many Basses, so .......... Garry

Interesting blog/read on sampling rates and conversions if you have a spare ten minutes. http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/02/04/the-science-of-sample-rates-when-higher-is-better-and-when-it-isnt/ Garry

I know it's just a jam to a cover, but some nice use of chord substitutions. Garry

First of all - Get yourself a better tour manager, If you are sleeping on floors,and in Vans and cars.... Something is wrong. Good luck and enjoy. Garry

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1360161681' post='1965889'] Many songs change keys several times throughout the piece. [/quote] Good grief, i remember those days....... Garry

Ahhh....That lovely Arabic scale Bilbo....Db minor...Fminor... [C Db E F G Ab B C] Hard to get our western ears around... Garry

That's not floating thumb technique - He's slapping/Thumbing.... And with the Bass up around his neck like that, It's Mark King style. Cute pic. Garry

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1360054602' post='1963973'] For some early fusion, check out the Japanese band Caseopia, their first album even had the Brecker brothers on it and they later hooked up with Lee Ritnour (and possibly Harvey Mason) for a couple of collaborations. Great stuff but maybe slightly off the mark for this post. [/quote] That first album 'Casiopea' is great...Thanks for reminding me of that one..! Garry

RIP - A real charmer with his music biz tales. 'The Troggs Tapes'...just the funniest thing on Youtube. Garry

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1359993491' post='1963142'] My friend and bandmate is a senior music tech lecturer and he reckons one of the main reasons for studios using Logic and Protools is that they render very accurately. I hadn't even considered this might be an issue. [/quote] I would be surprised if that is true.....EDIT...got me curious though, and waste an hour trawling da net... Pro Tools has been around for years and became standard if used with HD. In mainland Europe, Nuendo and Samplitude/Sequola [along with Pro Tools] are used a lot for broadcast and Post production. Logic and Digital Performer, with Nuendo/Cubase are certanly used a lot for film/TV scoring because of the Video cue support and notation, along with the in depth MIDI side of it, when dealing with Orchestral articulations from the big Kontakt and similar libraries. [needed for mock ups] For MIDI composing these days, the problem with Pro Tools, is it not being x64 bit limits RAM usage to 4 gig, if that. But in reality any DAW is capable of getting things done [with impressive results] It's what the user does with it, and adopts to work arounds for any limitations. Garry

Chick Corea 'My Spanish Heart' Full album. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kgUJ-NamBU Garry

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359926404' post='1962243'] Herb was never an established jazz artist so no sell out there. He was always firmly in the pop camp as either composer or producer before his hits with the Tijuana Brass of which none were Hispanic! [/quote] It was all tongue in cheek...... He liked Mariachi, and his band were mainly LA studio players and Jazzers [as you proberly know] Herb had a great ear for music and produced a lot of stuff over the years, and more than likely TB paved the way for a number of Latin style chart pop at that time. Great head for business as well. Not British, but great [brilliant] all the same. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGtdVWBI8k[/media] Garry

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359923614' post='1962183'] This has been a really good thread. It's hard to imagine how fusion was loathed by many older Jazz fans at the time and musicians were accused 'selling out' by playing it. Miles, Herbie Hancock etc were not liked by a lot of the jazz fraternity and don't mention when Freddie Hubbard and the likes wheeled out their electric trumpets! [/quote] Even Herb Albert climbed aboard, sold out and went smooth in a Mexican way.................. Louis Johnson saves the day, or at least stopping it from making number one in the Tower Ballroom Blackpool. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltC-O7PDYQ[/media] Garry

[quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359856909' post='1961356'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0ZoH4FW-o&list=FLzVUqeF1SLjxa78y2gd03dQ&index=51[/media] [/quote] I can't get enough of Mr Lyle, great stuff. Also from BL, the New Warrior Album. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIn3IIRrKrA Garry

[quote name='Bassic' timestamp='1359902256' post='1961777'] drinking and brothels now thats rock n roll not so sure about the billiards thou ha ha [/quote] You lob the billiard balls through the brothel windows when pi**ed. There would not have been any 'Whiter Shade of Pale' if Bach had not got his Cantata 140 together. Garry

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1359898915' post='1961732'] Chord progressions or brothels and booze.[/quote] I would have said that was the near total Rock & Roll Musician................. But i am not sure where the chord progressions would fit in. Garry

Yep, Mozart will be interesting for me to...... Wonder if they will touch on his early social life............... Billiards, drinking and Brothels...... Garry

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1359768092' post='1960240'] however as i was playing on stage i noticed a group of young guys sat down beside the stage making a w**ker sign at the band (not sure if it was me or the band in general) at first i was a bit bemused has anyone encountered this kind of behaviour before?[/quote] I think being called a Five Knuckle Shuffler in the UK is chicken feed compared to Mexico... They take things a bit more serious when it comes to Band/Musician performance. http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-bodies-found-in-mexico-may-be-those-of-missing-band-20130128,0,3247925.story Garry

Morresy Mullen from the 80's..... More of a Latin Fusion Band, but PAZ were a good band [I believe they started in the mid 70's] Late 70's early 80's there was also a band called Savanna, started out as Fusion but ended up down the Disco route. Our very own Joe Hubbards 'Hubbards Cupboard' Richard Niles had a band called 'Bandzilla' back in the 80's - TV house band on the Ruby Wax show. Full of top players. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrREZ3h2HnM[/media] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSwQrcl4wQc Garry

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1359744956' post='1959853'] Absolutely. When they came down to London they played the Greyhound, Fulham Palace Road (before they had a record deal) regularly and were so tight as a band. They were just so good i think we all knew we weren't going to see them in pubs for long. Fabulous band!!! [/quote] At that time i watched them at the Black Prince in Bexley a couple of times - And they were tremendous. Garry