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[quote name='jakesbass' post='478601' date='May 3 2009, 10:01 PM']That subject is like swine flu...[/quote] Swine flu will proberly go away though. And with less casulties. Garry

Yep that is great. Been a fan of Paco for a while. I wonder if he sight reads well. Garry

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='477839' date='May 2 2009, 05:46 PM']Don't be doing that, mate. We need erudite and considered posts here to counter the general trends.[/quote] συμφωνήθηκε Garry

[quote name='jakesbass' post='477629' date='May 2 2009, 12:01 PM']At some points I've suspected that you have been making points allied to covering for what [i]you[/i] feel is an inadequecy within [i]yourself[/i] and are then going on to be over archingly defensive of your position, which I do think does take place amongst the non reading lobby. That said I think the post I have quoted above is the most even handed representation of the argument thus far, possibly your arguments were a little mis-understood. For the record I am a reading player with quick ears too. My sight reading skills are not brilliant so I would always check the severity of the parts with a fixer before accepting a job. I can get by with standard fayre perfectly well and if a reading gig (e.g theatre) has rehearsal, I'm fine. I can busk very well and learn things very quickly. BUT... this is the main point about reading work: Sometimes you are called to do sessions in studios that cost £1500 for a morning, add a full orchestra and rhythm section at standard rates and you have a very expensive prospect, and if it's TV themes or incidental music you may be called to read some really difficult music. if you don't read the parts right, first time with very little rehearsal you won't get called again.... what drives that is commerce. So merit of method does not even enter the fray when those are the stakes. The same is true for orchestral gigs, theatre deps etc etc. It has to be right... end of. So it has to be said as a non reader one is not going to be involved in that sector of music production. A sector which is filled with excellence and more importantly good music. Now that statement, however difficult for non readers to swallow, does not constitute an attack on music created by non readers. It's just different. None of the above will necessarily (although it's possible) have a bearing on how good or successful a bass player you are as there is evidence for people doing well on both sides of the field. If you want to decide how good a bass player you think I am have a listen [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=47877"]here[/url][/quote] Good one Jake.. As always. How was the middle East? Was the 7 star food in the bins at the back of 7 star hotel to your liking, sir? Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='477548' date='May 2 2009, 09:39 AM']Yeah, and I wouldn't presume to if I couldn't read it, and never claimed I would, so I don't know what the point that you're failing to make is.[/quote] Re read back over nine pages of this post. The penny might drop. Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='477537' date='May 2 2009, 09:18 AM']Or does it not count if I [b]also wrote the music [/b]they were playing?[/quote] There you are...You should know your own. Conducting other peoples scores is another ballgame. Garry

[quote name='stevie' post='476947' date='May 1 2009, 12:46 PM']There are plenty of fine musicians who can't read but I suspect that a first-class degree in busking isn't worth the paper it's written on. What college is it from? And what do you mean by 'scored' - written out the chord charts? Nothing wrong with that, but if you wanted to arrange music for a full orchestra you'd be a bit stuck not being able to read. Unless you were Paul McCartney, of course.[/quote] If you mean this, i am not sure he is taking the piss. Maybe you see it as so. But i think he might have a point in a 'degree in busking' No director/producer in the world would invite you to conduct there Orchestra.... with 'a degree in busking', Reading yes.... As for me, i do them both very well... So find this post very,very amusing...... Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='477510' date='May 2 2009, 08:08 AM']Bingo. I could figure out the parts to all of these tracks 100% in one evening by ear. Because when you do it the way I've been doing it since I was about thirteen, you don't need to either find some sheet music or feel crippled without it. So what's your excuse for not having bothered to train your ear to the same standard I have?[/quote] Perhaps he has not been playing so long as you..maybe only a couple of years. His ears might be developing as we speak. Its no big deal to busk them tunes, and if you have been doing them since you where 13.... there is no excuse for not knowing them. Infact every one of them is piss easy, with a trained ear [ reader or not ] Garry

Good reading skills together with good ears / busking skills, With the abilty to Groove and play with a bit of feel in a variety of styles Learn songs quickly. [ Without the whole band huddled around a CD player ] I wonder if this has ever been done before? If so, was it punishable by death ? Garry

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='476849' date='May 1 2009, 11:34 AM'] Playing by ear Vs. reading music? The answer is... [b]whatever works for you[/b].[/quote] Spot on... I like the video - good one. Garry

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='476788' date='May 1 2009, 10:40 AM']The argument that makes me laugh is when "pros" use the "I site read for a local production of "Rent", and I would never have got the gig if I couldn't read".[/quote] They thought they could read - then the conductor brings in the downbeat. Then relise they cant read... Tell you they are gonna busk it...and relise they cant... Then spend all week telling you that they are a 'feel' player really... Then never seen again........... Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='476385' date='Apr 30 2009, 08:56 PM']Sure, and I was pointing out in my original post that it was my position based on how I prefer to work. But I'll bear your thoughts in mind if I'm ever required to conduct a recording of West Side Story.[/quote] The way things are done these days... You might be just conducting Logic / Nuendo or whatever... Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='476362' date='Apr 30 2009, 08:25 PM']Well sure, when you take my statement completely out of context and apply it to a situation that isn't relevant to the point I'm making then yeah, it looks like I'm clearly wrong.[/quote] No, you are not wrong, thats your opinion, You dont trust musicians who need to see something written down, Thats cool... I was just pointing out a situation where that would not work. Garry

[quote name='maxrossell' post='476296' date='Apr 30 2009, 06:58 PM']And I would never trust a musician who needed to see something written down rather than just using their ears.[/quote] Not sure that would have worked when Leonard Bernstein turned up in front of a 60+ Orchestra for the Recording of Westside Story.... And asked them to wing it with there ears. He trusted them... And look at the outcome. Different Musical situations require different Musical skills. Garry

[quote name='RhysP' post='476014' date='Apr 30 2009, 02:14 PM']That would be great as in "BIG", not "Hey, that's great!" Maybe the use of the word "great" to denote size (it's proper meaning, BTW) does not occur in the colloquial language of Essex.[/quote] Sorry i cant help you out with that one mate, I am from Lundun and new to Essex, different colloquial lingo altogether. AJ rocks, playing wise, and wind up wise. Garry

[quote name='RhysP' post='475282' date='Apr 29 2009, 05:17 PM']his great fat arse.......[/quote] So are you into geezers with fat arses? Garry

[quote name='bluesparky' post='475629' date='Apr 30 2009, 12:06 AM']In my mind this post is bass related as i bought it to be comfy for when i was playing[/quote] According to someone on another post - Anthony Jackson had a fat arse, he thought that was Bass related. So yer, you should be fine... Garry

[quote name='beardybass' post='474757' date='Apr 29 2009, 07:38 AM'][b]Anthony Jackson [/b]: clearly unconcerned about music, only with thrusting asses and spastic dance steps[/quote] Ah... The female function band singer. Garry

[quote name='Stylon Pilson' post='474042' date='Apr 28 2009, 10:43 AM']My guess would be - because he's a show-off. S.P.[/quote] Does that make left hand players that play upside down show-offs ? When this guy arrived in the early 80's, I heard a lot of English Musicians say it was just showing off, to me just another style and there aint nowt wrong with that. Garry

Not sure if this has been posted before, But for anyone wanting to brush up on theresight reading, There is some stuff going down here. [All on the left hand side - different styles] [url="http://www.bassnotation.com/"]http://www.bassnotation.com/[/url] Garry

This is the most accurate i have seen on the net. The Db part is about the only time i have seen it written correct. [url="http://www.bassnotation.com/norman-watt-roy-ian-dury-blockheads-rhythm-stick.php"]http://www.bassnotation.com/norman-watt-ro...hythm-stick.php[/url] Garry

I never like to use pedals usually.... But doing shows i have had to provide from time to time, An Octave pedal.. And quite often a Chorus pedal. I think some times WTF do they want that for.. But then in context they can usually work. So my feeling is always be prepared... Garry

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='469760' date='Apr 22 2009, 05:20 PM']If you like a bass sound with plenty of mids, this isn't for you. If you like playing trebly prog metal, this isn't for you. If you like a lot of tonal flexibility, it isn't for you. If you like a vintage thud or a dub sound, then maybe it is for you.[/quote] Have you tried doing a gear write up for a Bass Guitar mag...? That looks like a perfect review... Garry

'Things that musicians do that are a waste of time!, We all do it but we shouldn't....' Endless hours of posting on Forums?.... Garry

Well one things for sure, dont play any bum notes, otherwise you will be accused of using the ring finger. Garry