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[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1504522349' post='3365375'] Big flappy orchestra? I thought the great thing was how such a big orchestra was so together and managed to swing. Yes, a small group would probably have been more appropriate and involving but its place would have been at Ronnie's. This, after all, was a Prom performance, a season of orchestral performances. Contrast the Mingus Prom with the big band concert that preceded Stax: two big bands that couldn't swing with trumpet sections on the verge of being out of control. And compère (commere?) Claire Teal outdoing Jules in the forced jollity stakes. [/quote] Absolutely. [quote name='magee' timestamp='1504520681' post='3365349'] I'm surprised to see so much praise for the Mingus one the previous week. What about it did people like? [/quote] Outstanding arrangements in their own right, plus some good soloing (although I didn't get off on Lou Pellegrino). The arranging from 'llja Reijnoud' on 'Hora Decubitus' was a master class in Big Band Harmony. Yeah, I agree that there were some 'Flappy'? moments, but on the whole, I thought it worked well. (my opinion or course).

[quote name='Mickeyboro' timestamp='1504450238' post='3364927'] The negativity just gets wearing sometimes, mate... [/quote] Yep, unfortunately it does. Just part of listening to (or playing) music though. Although, some of it does become amusing.

I thought it was ok and the band sounded good etc.... but not a patch on the previous BBC Prom show with the Metropole Orkest and the Mingus arrangements, and again, with the Quincy Jones tribute. That Dutch Orchestra really is the best at these big live, tribute occasions with some world class players. @ Mickyboro, no viewing or listening isn't compulsory. But how the hell are people going to come on here and give an opinion either way without viewing? Daft.....

Big part of my musical journey. Very, very sad indeed.

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1504431034' post='3364733'] Write out the arrangements and place them in front of each player. On music stands. I'll get me coat... [/quote] Notes or TAB ? Either way, going by the OP's post, by the time they get to writing the end of the arrangement, they would have forgotten how they started it, or indeed if it is even the same tune or tunes. The plus side I suppose, is the arrangement ends up as a medley...

[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1504350781' post='3364281'] The band were always able to make the marriage of electric band with orchestra work while many others felt at odds. [/quote] Some of that was the work of the marvellous 'Peter Knight' and his Orchestrations, but yes I agree, it all worked very well. He was a very serious musician. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0461032/ Always had a soft spot for the Moody Blues, they released some excellent music.

Flippin' 'ell. The first thing that went through my head for this was , 'Shostakovich - Waltz no.2'. Pastiche it is then ....

[quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1504276090' post='3363860'] So many basslines - how can you choose a favourite? Which is best? - that will depend on my mood, what I wish to hear at any given time... and that constantly changes [/quote] Yes, I am like that. Earlier, my oldest son was playing 'The Dance Of Life' (Narada Michael Walden) from my collection The (below) two singles jumped out Bass wise. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFSB_tbHb6Q[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVHX5OWXkjE[/media]

You can never have too many hard cases. Cats love them.

Yes, very well done Xgsjx (and everyone else, of course).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEmD17kYsE

Welcome to Basschat land. Nicely played and arranged. The extended intro works well. I must admit, I had to listen a couple of times before I could get my head around hearing that Violin theme played in that register. But yeah, it works for me...Excellent stuff.

[quote name='FDC484950' timestamp='1503945467' post='3361749'] Also a wicked bass part and especially tone from "Ready" Freddie Washington [/quote] That was Joe Chemay on Bass Guitar. Not sure that Freddie Washington was even on the album? Abe Laborial and Nathen East were also both on the album. Edit: All the credits are here. https://www.discogs.com/Lionel-Richie-Cant-Slow-Down/release/1722942

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1503941975' post='3361718'] Couple come to mind. Both Steve Lukather (well certainly the first one and probably the second one) Rosanna and Running with the night by Lionel Richie. [/quote] Yes, both top solos, and yes both by the man who owns the most shirts in the world.

^^^^ [size=4]I thought [color=#545454][font=arial, sans-serif]John 'JR' Robinson had taken over that little position.[/font][/color][/size] [color=#545454][font=arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#545454][font=arial, sans-serif]But then again, all the worlds most recorded drummers make that claim on their websites. [/font][/color]

Don't know about 'best cover', but certainly one of my favourites. http://youtu.be/jPbLpQPy5M0

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1503821928' post='3361002'] A old friend of mine from Tennessee posted this on her facebook timeline today. Presumably because of all the fuss over civil war statuary etc. [url="http://theferalirishman.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/just-so-we-are-clear.html?spref=fb&m=1"]http://theferalirish...ml?spref=fb&m=1[/url] [/quote] Thanks for posting, that's an interesting read. Some food for thought responses as well.

Yes, different film. I think 'Wrecking Crew' might still be up on Netflix though.

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1503666693' post='3360148'] Yes, I suppose it does but he was well known and I wasn't. My brother made a homemade bass guitar, used the coil from a headphone for the pickup but because he didn't have the skills to put frets in the fingerboard he left it fretless. As I was playing DB back then I found it quite easy to play. Deffo 1959 tho, I played it at my school dance. [/quote] [size=4]Wow...1959? What a great story.[/size] [b] [b][size=4]Most Obscure Bass Claim to Fame?......[/size][/b][/b][size=4]The above from 'bassace' for me. Pure story, no name dropping .......[/size][b][b][size=4] [/size][/b][/b]

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1503750554' post='3360699'] Because of all the (blues and rock) gigs I've been offered, I have never once been asked if I can read or even seen anyone with a score. When I have been up for gigs that I would consider a step up from what I usually do, whether I could read or not has been a non issue, more can I commit to going away for a few weeks at a moments notice! I'm currently helping out with stage management with one of the biggest blues festivals in Europe. You see quite a lot of the same players turning up in 'name' artist's backing bands - all jobbing pros, many of whom I imagine can read. However, I very much doubt (to the point of absolute certainty) that when they were offered the gigs that they are getting paid for over the weekend that they were given any score to learn, or even asked if they could read. Certainly they there is no musical score backstage whatsoever...! [/quote] Mostly always the case with this musical style of gig, along with non Big Band Jazz as well (although chord charts or fake books do appear at times). Professional shows/TV/film sessions/selective recording sessions/backing turns or acts. Depping in certain function bands and corporate event productions/cruises/classical concerts and broadcasts, amature drama orchestras and bands, marching bands, forces bands, arranging/orchestrating and engraving (the list goes on and on). Fluent, or good reasonable sight reading is still big business. TAB readers/musicians who want to make the step up to any of the work or opportunities mentioned above these days, would know deep down, that TAB knowledge only would not be enough to get you anywhere near the front door. They will have to raise their game. However, not all do and are perfectly happy doing what they do with TAB, which is mainly (I guess) for education and learning purpose. It is pointless ramming it down their throats and is not really productive The OP question was about using TAB when learning songs versus ears. TAB is no more EVIL than Notation is '[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]incomprehensible gibberish'.[/font][/color] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828]I became fluent in sight reading over a period of time, I didn't just wake up and it happened. Luckily enough, a lot of my reading experience was gained in the heat of battle when I was young [/color][/font][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828](winging it on gigs/cruises and shows using my ears, and accommodating MD's of course)[/color][/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828] [/color][/font]

[quote name='scalpy' timestamp='1503743999' post='3360643'] It reminds me of a story about the legend that was Maurice Murphy, principle trumpet of the LSO for decades. The dep on that occasion was the conductor, one Leonard Bernstein. The maestro asked Maurice if the extract they were rehearsing was muted or unmuted. Maurice replied 'it's pencilled in as muted.' Bernstein went into diva mode and went, 'Well hot shot, what are going to play?' To which Maurice answered, 'You tell me, you wrote it.' Professional? [/quote] A bit similar to the Guitarist ( I will leave the name blank) and Marvin Hamlisch on a session. Marvin. "Mr Guitarist, what is that s**t you are playing?" Guitarist after intently looking at the part, "Your s**t, Marvin". Are they all true, these stories? Who knows, but I suppose they must start somewhere and are almost certainly exaggerated. One thing though, they are good for a laugh and really not worth getting all professional over for the individual on the receiving end. The muso 'aving a go back in these tales, is usually in a position of being respected and good enough to get away with it. Most of the tales are years old and are amusing folk law in musician circles, and really, that's how they should be viewed. (my opinion of course).

About ten years ago, sat drinking beer and chatting with Jimmy Haslip in a small bar in Berlin. In fact it was me and a couple of guys I was doing a show with, along with Allan Holdsworth and Chad Wackerman. A great night (or early morning).

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1503647078' post='3359867'] It looks more like ET than a camel , maybe we've all missed the correct interpretation of this one [/quote] Haha.... yes, I just noticed that. Gets even weirder by each post. Rolf Harris and Emu riding ET.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1503640469' post='3359826'] It's Rolf Harris & Emu on a camel! Had I noticed that at the start, my entry would have been very different. [/quote] I bet Rod Hull is thrilled that his bird, is sitting on a Camel with Rolf Harris in the middle of the Desert...

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1503567322' post='3359178'] Always amused me that Stanley Clark had to have a bass player in his band. [/quote] Are you talking about an additional Bassist, or just him ? Not that many live gigs on the Tube with two Bassists Eleven Bassists, no problem. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdRG-hD5ZKo[/media]