JohnDaBass

I have a BF Super Compact, two DIY BassChat Mk1( one with a slot port & one with 4 x tube ports) & a Fender Rumble112 v2. I use these in differing combinations with Mesa D800 & Fender Rumble 500 head for the various venues I play. Recently one of my bands had secured a number of ongoing gigs in a small venue and I wanted something really small because of the tighter space and small room size. I considered a Fender Rumble 500 combo but concluded a BF One10 would be just the job as I already had the Fender head. So I rang BF to check delivery lead time and Harry informed me that it was 3 to 4 weeks so I duly paid my deposit on 24th April. Having emailed weekly to check progress I was told on 21st May that the cab was in Test and would be shipped that week. As I needed the cab for Saturday 26th May I phoned Thursday morning to make sure I got the cab on Friday before the gig. I got no reply having phoned dozens of times throughout the day. I finally got an answer from Tom at 3pm to say that it would ship on Thursday . Great ! time to play it in a bit and get the right EQ settings. Sadly I had a further call to say that the FedEx pickup time had been missed but BF would cover the extra shipping cost for a Saturday delivery. Having expressed my disappointment with the poor communications I received an email from the Man himself Mr Alex Claber explaining that the factory had been shut for most of the day because the team were on LEAN & 5S training . So my order wasn't so Just-In-Time more Just-Abit-Late 😂 Now I have tried the new Tech 21 VT 200 combo & the Fender Rumble 500 combo and the Fender definitely suited my needs best. I was disappointed with the VT 200 combo as the speaker lacked depth & the headphone socket was really noisey. The preamp was great with all the familiar VT Bass sounds on hand but the missing blend control was a disappointment. Setup the One10 for the gig on an angled stand with the Fender head on top secured to the cab handle by a nifty DIY bracket that I'll share on another thread. Fired up and what a sound!😎 The One10 was absolutely amazing for it's size with a huge amount of depth and clarity. Considering I was using the same head as in the Rumble 500 combo the One10 was much louder and fuller than the Fender combo with a much smaller footprint. From the various comments on forums I was expecting the One10 to be far more 'coloured' than the Super Compact but to my ears it was only a little warmer and to achieve my particular sound I did have to back off the upper Mids but not as much as when using the Super Compact. All in all the One10 has been a great purchase that provides me with every foreseeable combination I need for the venues I play. A One10 on an angled stand provides a small compact solution that delivers a really loud, full, articulate sound that suits me perfectly. Thanks Harry & Tom

I use a compressor on both my pedal boards. On the 'posh' board I have a Spectracomp with a VT Bass DI Deluxe & Thumpinator. On my 'small' board I use the compressor in my Zoom MS-60 B along with HPF patch and my VT Bass DI.

Mike Dirnt bass 013-8400 first appeared in 2004. Mike spec'd the bass on a '51 P Bass with an ash, slab body with '55 arm contour and pickguard. It had a really thick, maple "C" shape neck with rosewood fret board and was modelled on MIke's original '69 P Bass. The pickup was a Custom shop '59 P bass and had a BadAss 2 bridge. There were two colour options offered black or 2-colour Sunburst. I bought mine new from Gamblins in Cardiff in 2004. My Mike Dirnt has enjoyed a few upgrades over the years, it now supports a '72 Tele bass Humbucker Pup, a slim '51 one piece maple neck (from a '51 P Bass reissue CIJ) and a Fender Telecaster guitar control panel with vol & tone and 3 position switch to select the Humbucker/ both/ '59 P Pup. I'll post some pics shortly. Hope this hepls!

Sad day.

Anyone tried one of these combos?

Well done Al great set of notes! Thank you for your efforts.

Thank you

How do I see/download/access your summary Al Krow? Sorry I'm a such a dope!

Thank you Jus Lukin for your valuable contribution.

Like Al Krow I'm on the same learning curve, eager to broaden my knowledge and open to receive guidance from the more experienced and knowledgeable amongst us! So the optimum HPF settings on MS-60 B & B3 / B3n winner is------?

So we can ignore everything below 20Hz as amps range between 20Hz to 20KHz. Are we all agreed that the amp and speaker will NOT be "trying" to deliver anything below 20Hz? ( so not sapping energy) If so what we need now is a shoot- out between 1) PEQ 2) GEQ 3) LO EQ 4) Ac Bs Pre. And the winner is------- ?

I play in a function band and a Pub rock band. The function band demands quite a wide variety of bass sounds and to deliver those sounds I have created a very flexible pedal board. I wish to create a much smaller pedal board for the Pub rock band. I want to use my "new" Zoom MS-60B to provide and replace a tuner, Thumpinator and TC Spectra Comp and then into my Tech21 VT Bass DI. So I end up with two pedal boards. So the main reason for being so inquisitive ( Pain-in-the-Backside) is to grasp whether the PEQ on the MS-60B can get close to what the Thumpinator is doing. So my current understanding is that I should set up two or three PEQ in series with the frequency set at 25Hz & 20Hz with Q set at around 4. This would give a " notch" centered at 25hz & 20Hz and the Q of 4 would produce a notch width of (maybe?)+ 10Hz - 10Hz . I would in effect being cutting frequencies from 10Hz to 35Hz. As Al Krow correctly pointed out to me the Thumpinator is set to 30Hz so I am possibly 5Hz higher. The rest of my rig is a Mesa Subway D800 and one or two Barefaced Super Compacts. The reason for the Bright Onions switch is to allow me to feed my bass signal into the front of the Mesa D800 via the BD I21 ( for boost mid song) and the Tech21 VT Bass DI Deluxe into the AUX in of the Amp. The Mesa D800 has a fixed HPF in the preamp which is why I only use the Thumpinator after the BO Switch and into the Tech 21 VT Bass Deluxe then into the AUX IN of the Amp. The Aux In signal is inserted before the Master Volume control so it is simple to balance my sound between the Mesa Preamp and the VT Bass DI Deluxe. The setup enables me to have seven ( plus boost) pre set analogue sounds all accessed via the footswitches. I know it's NOT a HELIX but it really suits my needs. Sorry for the long explanation but I just wanted to get my dumb questions into some sort of context for the "Clever Ones" amongst us who help so much in broadening our understanding of what we are all trying to achieve.

So based on Al Krow experience should I setup three PEQ patches in series set at 20Hz, 15Hz and 7.5Hz ? Would that over lap work as a HPF Set at 39Hz as per my Thumpinator? Should the Q value be set at the mid point?

Al Krow, is the PEQ patch, that you identified as a suitable HPF, availabe on the Zoom B1 & B1xon? Does anyone have a Zoom B1 or B1xon who would be kind enough to check & confirm?

John can also help on tailoring the right type and value of capacitor to achieve your desired tone. Great guy!

Kevin, Now you have got the speaker out of the cab, and with your trusty cordless screwdriver to hand 😉, you may as well line the inside with some acoustic furry stuff to dampen the cab even more!

Very true Stevie! If you add a TC SpectraDrive DI or Mesa Subway Di you have a very nice setup with all the sounds you need at a reasonable price. Hopefully the reviews will be positive.

I like the look of this SpectraDrive, it has everything I need and with the flexibility of the Toneprints it could be a real answer for my needs. If it had a HPF built in it would be perfect!