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What i said is fact. How do i know ? Because i phoned paypal and got it from the horses mouth When you start typing out your auction, you'll find that you HAVE to have paypal listed as a payment option. That bit you cannot get away with. But on collection items, you can state in the auction that you will only accept cash. Although you have PP listed in your auction, you simply DO NOT have to accept paypal on collection only items. Again, that is fact.

Ah BRX beat me to it.

[quote name='Jakester' timestamp='1487776430' post='3242743'] Not to be rude, but if you've not used either service why offer an uninformed opinion? It's quite clearly set out here: [url="http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html"]http://pages.ebay.co...nts-policy.html[/url] "[b]eBay requires all sellers listing on eBay.co.uk to offer payments through PayPal[/b] (with some limited exceptions). In most cases, other payment options may be offered as well." [/quote] Yes thats true, but paypal themselves have stated that its fine to also list that if collecting in person, only cash is accepted. That is in direct repsonse to scammers doing exactly what spyder posted. Its a well known scam and even PP recognised it. Your listings will have to include payment by paypal, but on collections only, you simply do not have to accept paypal Thats fact

I would only ever accept cash when collection in person is the choice. Not only can you not get scammed, as spyder pointed out, there's also no PP chargeback if they get home and change their minds. You also save PP fees too

[quote name='spyder' timestamp='1487758300' post='3242434'] [i][b][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]But then i've not had a courier damage anything yet, so i havent experienced what happens under those circumstances.[/font][/color][/b][/i] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]This is the problem. When it goes ok its great, when it goes tits up s**t its the fan.[/font][/color] [/quote] Yup, i hear it makes quite a mess

On a lighter note, i've just had a local guy message me to ask where abouts i was in the country and it looks like he's very interested

Funny old thing ..i've sold guitars on this basis before - buyer arranges courier - and never had a problem. They email me the courier labels which i print off, pack the guitars and wait for the driver to turn up. But then i've not had a courier damage anything yet, so i havent experienced what happens under those circumstances I have told the dealer who messaged me that i'm not going to arrange the courier, so now he knows. He wont be bidding because i've stopped that I guess its personal collection only then !

Packing isnt that hard either if you have the right stuff, which i do have. I keep proper guitar boxes ( both inner shaped one and the big fat outer and of course bubble wrap ) from when i've bought guitars myself. But as you guys say, its probably in my interests to only have collection and no postage.

So guitar gets dameged by his courier, and buyer gets refunded by PP...and then since he has all the courier info, which i dont have, he can claim back from them too, making a nice wad of cash on the deal ?? Maybe i shouldnt offer postage then, as Big Red stated

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1487754217' post='3242368'] Technically the buyer is responsible if they have arranged the courier. However if you you don't want the hassle of potential damage to the instrument by posting, then simply don't offer it as an option, or even mention it in your listing. State cash on collection only. If potential buyers can't accept this you don't have to sell it to them. If necessary remove any bids they have made and block them on eBay. [/quote] Yes, but then i wouldn't have the responsibility of potential damage if someone else booked the courier. Thats the whole point. If you're willing to pack & post, then you reach more buyers.

[quote name='spyder' timestamp='1487753183' post='3242353'] Think you are right. If the buyer arranged the courier and it is damaged, the buyer has to sort out the problem as you are not responsible. [/quote] Those were my thoughts, sometimes you get doubts on the legalities, especially since this guy told me i was still responsible for the courier that HE books. I just couldn't see how i'd be able to deal with a courier that someone else booked, who'd damaged goods that i sent

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1487752523' post='3242342'] I have had a bass damaged by a courier despite it being very carefully packed (in case, in strong box, with plenty of bubble wrap. The courier's small print restricted payouts for damage to musical instruments to £100.00 despite me taking out extra insurance for it. These days I arrange to meet people half way between our homes, if that's not possible then I won't buy or sell. [/quote] Yeah seems like a good idea Dave, but then if the buyer arranges the courier, and if the courier does damage, its the buyer who has to deal with them and get their money back. Well thats how i see it, but then i had doubts, which is why i posted about it in case i was wrong

I hear ya I know this scam Spyder, which is why i stated cash only if collecting In fact, in the last 13 years on Ebay, i've never accepted any PP payments on collected items, for the very reasons you state

I'm selling a guitar on Ebay, and have said in the auction that i want collection in person. I also said that anyone needing it posting will have to arrange it themselves, as i dont want the risk of a courier causing damage by drop kicking it around their warehouse or throwing it around and somehow damaging the contents. I have proper guitar packing but i still dont want the risk. Its probably a long shot that it would get damaged, but its my choice. A guy has messaged me saying would i pack it and take it to a drop off depot. I said no, for the reasons above, which are stated in the auction. I'm assuming he read that but ignored it. So i get this this meassge... quote.. [b] [i]Hello , In my experience you cannot reduce your responsibility by not being the one who pays the courier, because Ebay give a customer guarantee that the buyer will receive the item they want in the condition they expect or be eligible for a return or refund. I send out two or three guitars each week and have found it is all about packing really well to get them there in one piece... even if I send a courier you still have to pack the guitar ready for him to collect.[/i][/b] Now, if the courier does deliver the guitar and they've damaged it, how on earth can i deal with the courier that i didnt book, dont have the order numbers for, or the invoice ? He mentions its all about the packing, but i've already stated that i have the proper packing. He's not listening or reading what i stated I've posted guitars before without problem, but i've not booked the courier. Thats my choice, as i said The responsibility that i have is that the guitar is as described. Isn't it ? If i misrepresented what i was selling, i would have it back and refund., but i dont do that because its not worth the hassle, and its morally wrong to sell someone something that isnt what i described. I'm careful to list things correctly to avoid those situations So what is he on about ? Also it appears he's a dealer and he maybe getting confused and thinks i'm also a dealer.

Dalight robbery. I'll not be able to diagnose your faulty amp for £7

Salutations Ped. Well deserved IMO

No backups for me apart from cables + batteries. Where would it stop ? Anything could go - cabs, amps, pedals, ...i'd need a bigger boat Just one fretted and one fretless. Thats it

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1487542934' post='3240707'] It was in the Daily Mail. But yeah, ok. Sorry mate, didn't realise they were for regulars only. . [/quote] Oh go on then. Eat my nuts

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1487539438' post='3240668'] Get out you youngster. I've been eating snacks off the bar all my life and it never did me any harm. All that new fangled scientific analysis. Poke it. [/quote] Who said eating pub nuts would do you any harm ?

Just need the lollypop then..

Bit more Pratt. Icehouse , where his pro career started ( there was stuff before this ) This is Icehouse and Guy supporting Bowie on the Serious Moonlight tour '83. I was at the Milton Keynes Bowl gig This vid is from another venue... Guy at 19 !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzVALmtT0Aw