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Pirellithecat started following Bergantino EX112 350W Cab , 2025 SE Bass Basheroo! Please read! , Line 6 Helix guitar system - any tips for monitoring or FOH? and 1 other
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No, for all the reasons above I'm on the 5GHz. Also in a hall with a no other digital connection save my phone. "LIP timeout message" , no connection for the CQ app ( after an hour's use), and no way to reconnect. Also rendered shut down inoperable, just wouldn't move from the "Shutting down" screen, to the "safe to shut down .... message. Hard shutdown for everything and leftover it overnight and all OK the next morning.
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Having used the CQ18t at rehearsals and now 1 gig, I'm impressed. Still a big learning curve to get the best out of it, but even at "idiot" level it's a step up from my analogue mixer. I bought the CQ18t rather than the cheaper CQ20 as I wanted the reassurance of a hardwired screen and controls over relying on an network connection. During an extensive test yesterday, predominantly to check base line settings for the whole PA and to set up some basic EQ for FOH and the bass, the remote iPad controller, glitched and would not connect to the PA. So, without the inbuilt UI, mid gig Id have been completely screwed. Looks like I went for the right option!!!
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IEM Conundrum ....... possible solution??
Pirellithecat replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
As per the advice above used the splitter to get EQ able IEM feed into my IEM mix, and a different EQ for FOH ( and back line). First outing for the CQ18T and all went well. Binned all the quick channels during set up/ sound check and went to the Full channel setup as lots of horrible boom and hints of related feedback. Sorted the sound within a few minutes per channel, and with a bit of help from the Feedback algorithm everything worked really well. Best 3 x vocal Mix I've tried so far and the majority of bass through FOH. After One outing I won't be going back to my analogue mixer,..just need to be wary of Rabbit Holes!!!! The Bass sound was naff, but the system works a treat, just need time to focus on me rather than everything else!! So thanks for the help👍👍 -
Interesting .... do post a link. 🤞
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Will do! I might bite the bullet this weekend and use the CQ18T in Anger at a gig.! I have access to the venue all day (and it's not a pub so ideal for setting up and testing everything. I actually thought I might start with "Quick" settings across all the inputs except bass. The only thing I'll really need to worry about then is the Female Vocal, the Drums, and the Monitor mix (/Feedback!). So that's a good call. Thanks
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IEM Conundrum ....... possible solution??
Pirellithecat replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
Thanks. Splitter en route so I'll try that. I've set up the 2 channels already, so most of the "work" is done. Also, going to have a stab at DIY custom tips to get better isolation, and currently looking for a suitable set of IEMs Anyone comment on the size of the KZ ZAR? I have small lug holes with a little "Rugby Remodelling", so I feel that the KZ ZAR's might be too bulky. Is anyone aware of a less bulky (but good) alternative.? My Shure SE 215's fit pretty well ...... but thought I'd try something a little "better" for the new experiment? And my Audiologist just sighed, when I told him the usual sound levels and said he didn't think Custom Fits would solve the issue and that I should just change bands!! 😮🤣 Nil desperandum! -
IEM Conundrum ....... possible solution??
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I already have a modded patch cable which when inserted into the "Insert" socket .... passes the inputted signal to that channel but then can be use to pass the signal to the input of a different channel - so 1 Bass input Split into 2 channels . I goes to FOH after EQ, the other to the monitor mix with, if necessary a different EQ. Any reason not to do this as an alternative to splitting the incoming bass input. Yes - but the issue is that if there is only 1 bass channel the EQ for FOH and Monitor have to be the same. Whilst I can "globally change my IEM EQ" all the instruments in that mix get the same EQ. So to get the bass sounding OK the guitars/vocals etc can sound awful in the IEM feed. I'm probably over complicating things ..... but I'll try the "Insert" route and if that's no good, I'll try a spitter before the input. And Yes ... The Panning thought was just a way of changing the balance of the inputs (when use as a "summed" Stereo Pair as David says. Tired so the explanations above may not make sense!!! 🙄🤣 -
IEM Conundrum ....... possible solution??
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Looks like I might have to give the ZAR's a try ............. My "fix", to get a dedicated Bass EQ into my IEMs, alongside the band mix works. I just use Output 4 for the band mix (3x Vocals, 2xGuitar, Ambient Mic and a little Kick and Output 5 for Bass. Each monitor mix EQ'd separately, then combined using a 2 Jack to single female Jack. So now there's an EQ'd FOH Bass "Mix", and a Dedicated IEM Bass Eq'd Mix. Works on the CQ 4 You app too.... i've listen to both via Mains out and they are very different. I also use a Pre Amp pedal/DI - a Digbeth, combined with a Behringer BDI21. I'll try it out at rehearsal tomorrow night ........... ! I know that the Excellent is the Enemy of the Good, but it's interesting checking this stuff out ..... Next stop ...... see my Audiologist and see about some Custom Fit IEM's. Thanks Al, Thanks Phil, -
Hi, Mixed results with IEM's at the moment ...... Can get all the feeds to sound "good" in my ears ....... EXCEPT bass. Probably because I care more about how the bass sounds than just being able to hear and blend the rest of the band. The issue is a very "clanky" bass tone in the IEMs' but a great tone from the backline bass Rig, and the FOH. So, without IEMs the bass sounds good on Stage and FOH (as does the band). But, once the IEMs are in place the bass is completely different ... and not in a good way. The IEM's are Shure SE 215's via Xvive U4 wireless set. (I will get these (or replacements) custom fitted to my lugholes over the next week or 2). Just working up to using my new A&H CQ18T live so wondered whether the following might work well as I now have 8 Monitor Outputs - One monitor mix with "the Band, plus Ambient Mic" Another monitor mix for a specific Bass output. Combine the 2 Jack outputs using a lead taking 2 mono Jacks to an XLR connector - then Via XLR onto the Xvive Transmitter? I could pan the two channels if I need different balances or just change each channel volume?? If this isn't daft ....I'll give it a try over the next few days and report back! Thoughts?? Cheers Ian
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Thanks Phil, THe IEM's are Shure SE215's - I'll start a thread .... I think I've found a way to do a specific EQ for the bass plus "The Band" into IEM mix. But could be completely wrong!!!!
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Chalk and Cheese. Aim. Reduce stage Volume Send Bass to PA at around ?? 50% Use IEM's (plus "ambient" Mic) Result Initial resistance from band Sooo much bass reinforcement in room that it was problematic. But persisted with band members to stupidly reduce Bass/Mid Lows from Amps etc. Phenomenal sound out front - several comments from audience Bass/Kick drum .... great sound out front Sound levels on stage better - comment from band that they could ear everything!! IEM's ....... borderline disaster. Great Gig EQ'd aggressively to reduce bass frequencies - well done guitarists for helping at amp level and rewarded by many comments at the end - regulars to the venue came up and complemented us on the sound AND the volume! IEM's ok apart from the bass, which was very "clanky" and unpleasant........ So ..... I'll be along shortly on another thread asing about "How do you EQ IEM's so that the bass doesn't sound sh*t!) Same as outdoors .......... of course not!
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Expect realism to rear its ugly head after next weekend's gig!!! I'll let the post know ..... hopefully pics and smugness ....🤞🤞🤞🤞
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Absolutely! I recently rebuilt/modded an old Fender Power Jazz Bass Special, and it's fantastic......... but really full in the lower bass and harmonics. So I turned the bass EQ down a tad ....... not sufficient ....... Checked the spec on the Ashdown ABM 600, and the Bass Control centres at 45 Hz!!!!! So now it's basically "off"! And that's better except when the stage volume gets too loud ..... (107dB!) and then everything goes to mush! Too much bass boom and clangy upper mids .... ! Made worse by having to use ear defenders, ...... So, time to affect the things I can and not worry about the things I can't .... hence IEMs/Bass through FOH, = reduced volume on stage = hopefully less stage volume = better mix! Ever the optimist 🤣