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Wouldn’t be beyond comprehension the old TSBS bass had SD pick ups from the factory

There is a queue!!!

@tegs07 spot on as usual @scrumpymike decent insights for sure @sandbergmarc I don’t think rules are broken, you are offering to help someone. Happy to say I am slightly biased, but it’s based on personal and friends experiences, one of which (for a friend) involved Hölger personally replying to something and going over and above what would be expected - that won’t happen in most companies. i am saying this with no knowledge - but a big company probably has a tech division that can sort problems mentioned - Sandberg is ‘family’. In true appreciation thread style - here is my old Shape MarloweDK complete with dog, toy and a bit of foot…

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@Aidan63 It’s absolutely everyone’s right to spend where they wish to spend, but as said before Sandberg are definitively not in the big company arrogance bracket - they are very much a family company with a small workforce, this I can say with great assuredness with personal comms, many stories from others and also having been out and visited the factory and spent time with the team. Build time is of course an issue, but, it’s due to the items being quality and a small team. Unless it’s changed the configurator is there to do that, configure a bass and then the code generated can be given to a relevant ‘dealer’ to get what you need. I can’t help thinking that Britains relationship with Europe may be a factor in how things proceed, but also Sandberg sits in that position of not being a big manufacturer like a Fender, but not being boutique/luthier/artisan type zone. if you go back to 2015 and the Sandberg subtle shape change on their basses it was driven largely by Fender saying to retailers, if you continue to sell Sandbergs we won’t send you our basses to sell. They are also not as aggressive as Hans at Warwick. Anyways - hope you get what you need, Sandberg will always be there and be quality.

honestly - these pick ups - chat to Jaime at The Creamery he can modify how he does them for you - there is a wait - it is worth it

Nice to hear we are both legends!! popped it in to try to give context as we all hear things differently. to add to what I said on black labels I would imagine Tim Commerford loving them, but also you pop them in someone playing funk, they would also give you that Shazam. Nowt against Delano’s, brilliant pick ups, but you just gotta use em right. Some Sandy’s also had Haussel pick ups - now they are great, very meaty even the jazz ones - they are practically a P pick up

Hello guys!!!!! So I may be a little out of date on pick ups as I haven’t been on it as much as I normally am. back in my day the TSBS used to have Seymour Duncan’s in. But as a very brief brush stroke as a rule I find the split coil Pick up to be their weakest offering. Delano’s are more ‘hi-fi’ for want of a better word. It doesn’t make them sterile, they have character, but if you are someone who likes pre-amps, other baked in sounds - this is a really good option - it will let that sound go through and won’t colour too much In house Sandberg ones - well at least the old ones in my MarloweDK are more vintage sounding and really are the bees knees. It has enough punch to not be weak if you solo’s the neck pup and can approach that P sound (evidently not there tho). These will also take effects etc brilliantly, but they are a nod to yesteryear and vintage. black labels - they were prolly designed for when the superlight bases came in as they need more oomph. Delano is a right hook/power slap to the face - Black labels are a big old gut punch - not over powering, but very punchy and if you like slap bass these will do you right. i haven’t read all the posts, but as an aside if you want to know what my ear hears dUg Pinnick, Glenn Hughes,Billy Gould, Mike Inez, muzz skillings, Pat Badger - all have bass sounds I like if you can hear a sound bite the Perfect P bass pick up for me is the Creamery 58P - that’s where I sit, but I do love modern stuff too!! hope that helps! gotta get back to work!!

Hölger is a dude

Exactly that - it does do everything else purrrrfect as well…

Black would look good depends on your OCD and if you mind filled in holes. Worth contacting Sandberg as they may have old stuff knocking around?

Panther is a complete sleeper bass - so good and underrated - it’s phenomenal

Also remember, the dials are sensitive, small turns each time and re-assess

It’s as said above - if you pop it infront be prepared for noise unless you properly tweak, but of course that’s the beauty - take a preset, patch it to an empty slot and tweak to your settings and then save some of the guitar sounds work very very well for bass

That’s a ridiculous deal

They were forced into the change 2015 due to ‘pressure’ from Fender. Fender realised they were making basses better than they do, and they contacted stores and retailers to say if they stocked Sandberg, Fender would no longer send their stock to that shop to sell. Being by far the most common sold bass they had to agree. Sandberg to their credit just got on with it, changed the shape and voila - quality basses still being produced. To look at on a stand I agree the old shape is probably better, but ergonomically the new shape slays and you get used to the look, it’s now just common place

Had a passive VS4, lovely bass, wasn’t quite there for that ‘Fender’ sound, but then again if I had popped a pick up of choice, something like the 58p from Creamery, then it prolly would be. Again it’s your preference of sound, but the framework you get it in is immense with a Sandy

the man speaks the truth here, if I wasn’t so wedded to Tech21 and the Ultrabass amp, DP3X and PSA 2.0 this would be what I would get, and I would consider the consequences of an affair and messy divorce. Great products

For all the chat about the MM pup it’s important to realise it will not sound anything like a Ray when solo’d because it’s not designed to. It’s not in the Ray position nor is it voiced or does it have the Ray Pre-amp. Its main purpose is to be n adjunct to the P pick up and allow you to cut through and provide clarity. That’s what it is designed for

Tech21 DP3X is exactly what you need The Tech21 Steve Harris is also stellar This year they will release a Frank Bello pedal That’s a lot of EQ and tight distortion If you had to go Darkglass nothing beats the AO

I can’t believe no one has done this…… I like big butts and I cannot lie, The saturation can’t deny, When I walk in the place, a tiny pedal and a bass, And a loud amp in your face you get sprung!!!

In short - i have spoken with @Osiris at length over the years on all bass related issues - and we differ on approaches and sounds but have a commonality on our themes. He knows his onions theoretically and practically, nothing said is a cack handed glib comment without substance, the fact @Baloney Balderdash he wrote a reply detailing this shows this. Now I know I always ‘sound’ good no matter what I do cos my gear is ace, BUT, I play like crap - that’s all my fault.

If you are an Apple user - garageband, that’s free and iRig is decent Darkglass element

Ah yes Barefaced machinist is a cracking pedal - so many great tones. I had a good back and forth chat with Alex about it, ultimately I sent it back, not because of lack of quality (sound and build) but because compared to how and where I play on the bass, existing pedals I had suit me better. For reference I mainly play pick near the bridge and compensate EQ etc accordingly