Cuzzie

Ha!! Just ordered the Hardware in, capacitors, tone pots etc so now to complete both builds. The P bass neck pocket needs a little narrowing, just a smidge to fit the neck and then hopefully chocs away!

A relic bass is not pretending to be anything else other than a type of finish - that’s it. No more than a burst is trying to look like a massive turd, except it does. That is what is hard to understand but to coin an @Al Krow phrase/sentiment - what is Basschat without massive treads talking codswallop that not many other people care about

For situations like this it’s perfect for choice. Someone can own an iconic bass to them, at an affordable price, with less reliability issues as well. Lots of people have been comparing the car analogy and scuffing it up etc. Well, when the brought back the Ford Shelby Mustang they popped the modern engine in the old chassis and suspension - guess what, it was poo and couldn’t handle the torque, steering etc. So they made it like the old one but with new parts

A really cheap option - new/different strings?! Can be just the ticket with some judicious EQ

They could well be, but I think it was a mistake gash, but I likes the look of them!

Fried or scrambled

@Jabba_the_gut oh and very kind words form you, especially a chap of your expertise

It’s about the best out there, just as an amp full stop. Alternatives - EBS Fafner from Sweden (one for sale on here), Wounded Paw from Canada, they have pedal versions of their amp, but for my money Tech21 is king

And a 12 string bass

@Tech21NYCTech 21 dUg Ultrabass 1000

She sounds brilliant - can we have her running the country instead of our relickeyed prime minister

Pretty sure we said relickeying

I popped this together for less than a Bex mex fender pretty much, or about the same. Punch, cut, fast neck

No you got rid of the stench of turdburst well done

Take which P body you want Pop in which P pick up you want Bolt on your fave neck You can make the bass you desire

I always wondered about the writing/pronunciation could be relickeyd

@HengistPod no one disagrees with that. Gimme a shiny bass, give me a mangled bass - I am a plodder - but very happy doing so and will give it my best

@bassbiscuits we are probably saying the same thing, and I didn’t write eloquently enough as was in the middle of something. The package of vibration etc generally comes with some degree of relic as you have stated, having a worn in neck/body may make it a better instrument for you to play as a preference, and the other stuff better sounding. Yammy do their IRA and ARE on non relics, so Sandy may do the same. Metal flake finishes, binding on a bass are optional extras that cost more - it just equates to man/woman hours hence the cost - no one says on forums I hate metal flakes, why are they making their bass look like a glitter ball that’s fake flake, or the binding looks like a a bad pair of dinner jacket trousers - it’s just an option, no different to the different neck profiles, or headstocks people like for tactile and aesthetic feel

I suppose a refin is like Bass cosmetic surgery. Trying to make mutton look like lamb

But there is the crux of the matter - we all impart a ‘soul’ onto our machines because we love our basses, and there is a story they can tell possibly, or possibly not, but they are inanimate objects, and not living. Is a bass that was natural, but then asked its owner to get it finished blue, and then asked again to get it finished red fake? I honestly don’t think anyone with a relic bass is saying “Hey look at me, I played the bejesus out of this” it’s more likely someone watching them play it who does not know them presumes that is what they are conveying. If anyone takes some 0000 wire wool to their neck to smooth it out to make it more playable conveying a fake amount of play time to wear it down, or is that allowed and fair play? Its like assuming all young people wearing hoodies with the hoods up are up to no good. I presume people with turdburst are trying to convey a story that they wipe their behind with their bass every day to get that effect - I may or may not be wrong. Some relic’s I like, some I don’t, some of the myriad of other finishes I like, some I don’t - tis quite simple

Isn’t technically any finish apart from natural fake news? Why are you hiding the wood and it’s grain? Surely a relic to let the wood show is less fake as you can see what lies underneath?! We all know many manufacturers sometimes use the poorest woods in a block or finished bass to cover over this fact, or the 25 pieces they have bodged together with some blu tack and Prit stick

I get you about spending money as you see fit etc. But in the case of a Sandberg the relic’s basses are potentially better depending on your point of view as they have heat, vibration etc

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on finishes, that’s cool. Broadly speaking, they that don’t like a relic finish, don’t seem to mind one which has ‘earnt’ its relic with natural wear. Lets take classic basses out the equation - you have 2 identical models up for sale second hand let’s say about 10 years old - 1 home use only, looking as it did from the shop, the other patina’d and mojo’d to the max - but not abused, and well looked after electronics, frets everything etc. Should there be a price differential? Would those that like an earned mojo try to knock money off for wear and tear?

Or get an actual dual amp/ bi-amp amp head. All the sound - 1 box

Yep, it’s still a thing. I like it, and they are around. Its just a finish, not sure why there is so much ire about it especially whilst turdburst still lives on, it’s not pretending to be anything, unless we also think burst is deliberately trying to look like the Bristol Stool Chart