Cuzzie

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on finishes, that’s cool. Broadly speaking, they that don’t like a relic finish, don’t seem to mind one which has ‘earnt’ its relic with natural wear. Lets take classic basses out the equation - you have 2 identical models up for sale second hand let’s say about 10 years old - 1 home use only, looking as it did from the shop, the other patina’d and mojo’d to the max - but not abused, and well looked after electronics, frets everything etc. Should there be a price differential? Would those that like an earned mojo try to knock money off for wear and tear?

Or get an actual dual amp/ bi-amp amp head. All the sound - 1 box

Yep, it’s still a thing. I like it, and they are around. Its just a finish, not sure why there is so much ire about it especially whilst turdburst still lives on, it’s not pretending to be anything, unless we also think burst is deliberately trying to look like the Bristol Stool Chart

Loved the blowtorch!!!

Thanks for your kind words. In my mind it was a no brainer - the bodies were so cheap that if I messed it up it meant nothing and I can use them for firewood! Still might have to, electronics next. Planned for this is a Creamery ‘58 pick up with Tonestyler

Or it could become my trademark....

This is how it came from the factory, I think from over zealous sanding! i quite like it, almost as if The Wolverine himself got hold of the bass!

Nice work buddy Big thumbs up from me up the M4 corridor bravo

Rhythm section is a rhythm section for a reason, bass and drums - gotta lock

Cheers old boy

cherry neck with birds eye maple board to finish

Straight tru oil finish

So this bass the guy who owned it said the neck he pulled off it was a 78 Fender, body had a crack and he didn’t know what to do so I managed to get it for postage cost only - I have no idea what it is, but at that price, who cares?! Looks like grandma’s furniture dowel drilled, glued and clamped sanded back and a bit of torching to bring out the grain

So I took the plunge Into having a go. Jazz was a swap Ash factory second which has been abused with their sander and seemed unsellable so I picked it up for very little cost. bit of sanding TLC and a blowtorch stain with tea then with wire wool soaked in vinegar finish with Gun oil Quite happy for a first job. Black hardware and a maple neck and SJB quarter pounders to be added, will see if it sounds OK and will post up the finished article

And I clicked on on this thinking I could talk rugby.....

🤦🏾‍♂️ to myself......I meant to say in the like/haha button area, butbthats just me being lazy i’ll Get my coat......

@ped Mods - can we please have a face palm or dad joke emoji added - it would be the most used one

And that Peter crouch is not great in the air at all. Point 4 as Bill points out is a loaded dice - if the vast majority of manufacturers use that template, then that’s what you have to choose from, so that can be scrapped. And don’t get bogged down in Binary thoughts and paper spec sheets.

That’s great that is - nice score - I love Bass CPR

@Bill Fitzmaurice exactly, and wasn’t he something like round 6 199th overall draft pick? All those teams, Too much time spent looking at combine stats and specs - classic example is Case Keenam at my beloved Texans - three for a million yards in college - but of course it was in a poorer lower college division, plus he had an awesome wide receiver artificially inflating his figures! Case proven me thinks and good luck to Tom - a freak in the finest way

@Bill Fitzmaurice thanks for that, it’s complete common sense. Some dogma, is just that, dogma - not looking at actually what is possible, or just believing ‘that’s the way it is’ Usain Bolt was initially told he is too tall and has the wrong frame, legs (cones) too big to run 100m. Michael johnson told his style and his stride was too small and choppy (small cones) to run 2 and 400m and look what they did

@Al Krow you are wrong actually, and I don’t really like the gear bingo that gets played, but........ Yep I have a 2x12, but the devil is in the detail which gets missed when blindly quoting either what someone has or has not and what specs are without thinking about application. I have a Hartke HD25 8” - absolutely fine PJB Bass Cub 2x5” and very nearly bought an extension cab for this to use this alone and get rid of the 2x12. PJB incidentally has one of the best DI’s you will ever use. The reason I didn’t had nothing to do with the 212 being ‘better’ it’s different, that’s it, so in truth you don’t really have all the info on my choices, but you know I research my gear properly before jumping in. But my only point is, there is no fixed right - each on its merits for the application, and quality of build and sound reproduction for what you want, which although aside from the original topic title is actually inherent as to the misunderstandings leading to the question being asked. Edit - typo’s changed to make sense!

I don’t see VK or PJB going out of business anytime soon, so people are buying the excellent products they make. So many variables in this and not just cones, drivers, voicing, enclosures etc. It may be that you need the VK hammering out all 1200w juice from an amp to drive your sound without PA support. It may be that the tone from 5” drivers with less wattage mic’d through a PA gives the tone you want. As discussed here the draconian 1 size fits all is not right, within the ‘industry standard’ size you quite, there are dogs and golden eggs. I’d take a top quality 5 or 8 above a rank 10 or 12

Are we willy waving spec sheets again? What does it actually matter? if he said it was 100 5” speakers in the same frequency range as you listed but 1 lbs or 1 kg heavier or lighter, what does it prove? Mr PJB and Mr VK are clever blokes that have given us products we can use to our taste. You both probably sound good with your respective gear

And for those interested that are doing some dates in the UK later this year. Monster band