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@Al Krow Not over egged These guys 30 years ago would have been using tube amps and prob still are, or up until recently maybe. Anything going FOH - compressed. Re - comment on Backlines - why not start a poll about what is the most common backline rig guys play, but opinion only those with no FOH support and don’t use any form of pedals at all, just bass to amp. Once you have the info you can look at what amps are used and how they work, what their circuit does to the signal, is there any in built compression, then you can give us the percentage of people with absolutely no compression at all whatsoever and you will have your answer. But that is probably an exercise in futility as you will know the answer, it will be a minuscule proportion. If the prime goal of the thread is to create a poll to decide whether or not to use a compressor you have bought based on what the majority of people say, you have to ask yourself, if the result was reversed and more people did not use a ‘dedicated compressor pedal’ what would you have done with yours?

@BigRedX exactly my point across a number of these compression Merry-go-rounds which makes the poll and the topic null and void really on Compression vs no compression

And if you in those that use a dirt pedal, a tube amp, and let FOH guy compress their signal, and use compression on recording, i think you are in high 90’s with percentage, upright bassists chimed in giving the thumbs up to compression. The poll asked who used a compressor, not a dedicated compression pedal alone and nothing else that compresses your signal....... Those 30 year players have been compressing all along

@Al Krow so if you try to use a compressor and fail to find it useful, does that put you in an elite group or an outcast group? BTW nearly every respondent had some form of compression applied to their signal happily live or in studio, and that includes other pedals or amps that compress, so actually nearly all people are using a compressor are they not?

This in this thread i posted here is the beans.

All an amp is is a Preamp and EQ section bolted onto a power section (being very simple) i nearly went for a Monique M700 as I get pedals mainly to tone my sound, but sometimes merging simple like a QSC power amp will do it

Yes you can

Don’t like the category questions! Not sure the significance of gigging or bedroom should we also break it down into 3 piece band vs 52 piece orchestra. What about studio bassist? Everyones opinion is valid evidently Should it not just be compressor yes or no

Go on then I can’t resist too long. All styles, never slap, always pick, occasional fingers. Taking dirt/overdrive etc pedals aside or tube amps, as anyone who uses these compresses their signal as pointed out earlier (so nay sayers have very little wriggle room) Total of 3 compressors Cali76G on one board paired with a Two Notes CaliCB on another board paired with a HartkeVXL and some other jumbo jumbo These 2 boards can be used separately or cascaded and compression adapted accordingly (first into the second, compression turned way down on the Cali76G and used more as a signal driver withbteh germanium transistor) 3rd compressor in the new Tech21 DP3X pedal, and I may well combine it with any or all of the above, or use standalone. This appears to be thebkeast compressed reply

@Osiris is the the soft key or the hard key version you play with?

Get a 12 string bass, and have the duo as the bass player and singer, no guitarist, use a singular sound beat buddy for a rhythm section if you need it, small combo amp, or into the PA, job done

Bass xtender drop tuner is brilliant. be in normal or half stepndown globally and then pop - drop D or drop D half a step down love it The real question is why would you want to be in EADG - The grind is down low

Wouldn’t worry about that I know the guy Its gone All parties happy

Sandberg all the way - luthier quality despite being a manufacturer, and if you find something you like second hand, amazing value, great value new as well! I’ve never looked back and know a few peeps who think/say the same

There are some great quotes in this

Well, I rarely find the right notes...... I am Legend....... https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/ritchie-blackmore-on-joe-satriani-if-youre-always-playing-the-correct-notes-theres-something-wrong

@Al KrowThis link is very simple in explaining what each frequency does, read and hold the info http://www.brightonsoundsystem.co.uk/pa-hire/frequency-in-music-and-human-hearing/ I really did not want to get into anatomy, but this is a reasonable short description of the complexities of the human ear and how it works as an organ. http://www.dspguide.com/ch22/1.htm Now in relation to what people have been saying about psychoacoustics and your brain hearing one thing and making up the rest, if we look at another sense of sight. firstly the image your eye sees is actually upside down and all that you see is not there, your brain processes, flips the image and fills in a lot of what you see for you. Simply put there are 3 colour rods in the eye located centrally red, yello, green - the brain merges these things much as you do painting to give a palette of all colours, in addition your periphery of the eye sees in black and white, yet your whole vision is in colour-the brain fills it in. Now back to hearing, keep in mind how everything is processed in the body, keep in mind the simple links above, and keep in mind some of the excellent responses on sound physics and acoustics etc. Especially the posts where the frequencies isolated you are fixated about are generated and what they sound like. Put it all together and see the big picture of how Sound sounds and how sound feels, and if you still can’t see the wood for the trees, then there is probably little point in continuing the discussion on this thread. We can get back to bass tone and tone shaping in general within the context of getting a good useable sound with presence either by EQ alone, or adding effects, which is primarily what the thread was about.

Beautiful Cam Sandberg is a wonderful wonderful thing

How does the VK handle what you throw at it out on a gig compared to the MB Combo? What percentage improvement if any does it give with instrument straight in via an amp or with the pedal board out to play. Is that not the best test?

Could be worse, could be me waving my Beef Bag under your nose

Make sure you post your dubstep version of Proud Mary

@Al Krow public confession is by the by. The real learning point is not to dismiss and hammer something without researching it (does not include crap pootube videos) actually properly learning about it (yes that includes reading the manual), getting to grips with it, using it in the context you bought it for (that would mean taking it out the house with or without a handbag and using in a band, if that is the goal) and then exhausting all tweakabilities in that context. Then you can give it a yay or a nay. It would have been stupid to rigorously stick to an ill thought stance, and you are not a stoopid man. Congrats on making it work. Onwards and upwards (not downwards, we can’t her that!)

@isteen simply our, record or remember the sound at practice, tweak a sound at home that you think folds into it no matter how poo it may sound isolated, store it, then go from there and ignore what it sounds like isolated when you practice, or make a note of those points, go back to a flat EQ practicing and then EQ it back if that makes sense