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Ever thought you've nailed a bass line but actually havent?
tinyd replied to KingPrawn's topic in General Discussion
I agree with the sentiment that playing it "your way" is usually the way to go. But it's still an education when, as @KingPrawn says, you thought you _were_ playing them just like the original (but weren't)! I remember doing exactly this with Cissy Strut (not just a bass line - it's played on guitar as well). In this case, the original has less notes that my version which helps.... -
I meant it in the sense of "don't beat yourself up about your perceived failures on the night". I agree that striving to be better is a good thing!
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I realise that this may not be particularly helpful, but just more of an observation that trying to compete with people who are playing extremely loudly when they're not at Woodstock / Isle of Wight is extremely hard and not usually a lot of fun. So it's another reason not to be too hard on yourself in my opinion.
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Is there a popular bass player, that you just don’t get?
tinyd replied to Rayman's topic in General Discussion
I think some bass solos are pretty nice but I mostly agree - I like bass solos that still hold onto the tune's groove somehow. For me, the best jazz bass players do the same thing as good bass players in any genre - they underpin the harmony while also driving the music forward. Depending on the tune, tempo etc, this can be fairly simple sounding, or very virtuosic (e.g. Ron Carter walking at fast tempos with Miles Davis - it's "just" a walking bass line....) -
Yep - it's counterintuitive, but sometimes raising the string height can make the bass easier to play as you don't need to play as hard to get the sound you're looking for.
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On double bass you usually measure string height at the end of the fingerboard so I'd guess it's the same here. For comparison, on DB "typical" string heights are around 5mm for the G up to 8 or 10 on the E, but these are hugely variable between players.
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Thanks for that - any particular reason why do you don't use it any more? I'm guessing that with a decent pickup/amp setup an IR isn't really worth it for live situations.....
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Finding the above video has introduced me to IR loaders (something that I was previously unaware of). As I'm skint, I'm wondering about using the TC IR Loader (about €140) with some upright bass IRs through my existing amp - has anybody else tried doing this? It seems like a promising way of enhacing the sound of the piezo output from my DB....
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Not sure if this has been shared before but his results sound pretty good at the end:
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Just putting this here: https://www.thomann.de/ie/marcus_miller_gb5_4_natural_fl.htm They're not released yet but with the right strings/action etc it could be promising.....
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Thanks for that - to me that still sounds more like a fretless bass than an upright. I found this clip which is a lot more DB-like to my ears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrjoKSwt4iU From the comments he says he's using nylon coated strings and a foam mute....
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I haven't managed to find any videos online of people playing them with (and I realise this isn't a tight definition) DB technique, with the kind of right hand technique in particular that @Linus27 identifies above. If anyone can point me to anything like this (or record it themselves) that wouild be very helpful, thanks!
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There are a million examples out there but this is a nice clear example of the standard "anticipated" bass tumbao
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The Latin Bass Book by Oscar Stagnaro is really good and he goes into tumbao and all the variations. You can start with the versions where you play on the 1 and then work your way up to the syncopated version where the 4 anticipates the next chord and ties over the bar line.
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I was going to reply to the thread something along the lines of "you'll never get a BG to sound _that_ much like a DB but with the right strings, action and EQ you can at least get a good thumpy tone that will sit in the mix in a similar way"....but this video of the Marcustico bass is pretty impressive!
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Thanks - I figured that might be the case alright....
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@MuddBass Is the Earbox enough on its own for the job of hearing yourself? i.e. if the bass is going into the PA, does the Earbox make enough noise that you don't also need another speaker for the job of personal monitoring? I'm thinking of a small class D amp head with DI out to PA and an Earbox as the only speaker...
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Not sure about your particular EUB, but middle frequencies with piezo pickups on DB often need to be cut drastically and you'll want to be careful with lows as well as they can quickly become "boomy".
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Thanks @Paddy Morris - I'll keep an eye out for one of those. If I was going for a new cab, this looks like it might offer more bottom end than the C2 while still being light: https://www.thomann.de/ie/peavey_trace_elliot_bassbox_110.htm Thing is, I currently use an old (but working fine) GK MB150 combo which is OK in terms of volume etc but to me it's always sounded a bit "boxy" and as I said above, doesn't give me much clarity. So I'm looking for something that's about as loud as the GK, but with a more "hi fi" sound, plus cheap and light. I'm prepared to concede that this combination may not exist
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Thanks @NickA - that's kind of what I was thinking too (i.e. 2x5 not pushing enough bass into the room). Thing is, the thing that most bothers me when gigging is that I can't hear myself that well, and the C2 seems like it would do this part pretty well. Plus the acoustic sound of the bass itself is often pretty good for smaller / quieter gigs in terms of bass projection. I guess the good thing about going for an amp + cab means that I can always get a bigger cab for the gigs where I need it....
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Does anyone have any experience or opinions of using one of these for DB gigs? I play either a regular rockabilly gig but with a quiet-ish drummer, or jazz gigs without a drummer at all. I really like small/light gear so I'm going to pair it with a TC BAM200 head, but I don't want to get one of these if it just can't keep up. For reference, I currently have an (old) GK MB150 that I want to replace with the new rig. The other alternative is to get the TC BC208 cab, which is much bigger. But if I can get away with the C2 then that will make me happy
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Phil Jones Double Four alternative anyone?
tinyd replied to Paddy Morris's topic in EUB and Double Bass
There's a guy on Talkbass who recommended a Warwick Gnome + TC BC208, which is along the lines of what you're describing. I reckon I'm going to try that combination when I scrape some cash together.... -
For what it's worth, I've had my Westbury for 6 years and there are no obvious signs of it coming apart anywhere. Can't guarantee anything, but might be worth taking into account @Richard Jinman
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I've got one of these and it's excellent - well made with decent padding and pockets plus loads of handles which makes it easy to get it in and out of cars etc https://www.gear4music.ie/Woodwind-Brass-Strings/Westbury-Deluxe-Padded-3-4-Double-Bass-Gig-Bag-with-Wheels/1MBI?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=order-confirmation&utm_content=ord-line&utm_source=txn-email (It's got wheels as well.....)
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In terms of the action/string height, if you measure at the end of the fingerboard you'll be able to compare with what other people use. Mine go from about 6mm on the G to about 10mm on the E which is probably fairly typical for pizz/jazz playing. If yours are significantly higher than this then it might be worth reducing.
