SpondonBassed

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1499926190' post='3334503'] Lescherions stated it would be nice if the government looked at Google and Amazon first, a few posters also expressed the same sentiment. I'm just saying they did and changed the law which changed the behaviour of the large corporations. I'm not sure an expensive lawyer makes a lot of difference. Ultimately it would be down to a jury to decide what was reasonable. [/quote] With corporate entities of that size I'd say that public opinion is more likely to dictate that than a formal jury. That's just an opinion based on what we've already seen. Reason? No. Just commerce. That is all.

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499924176' post='3334491'] I'm not sure I understand the view that the only people that will notice are probably musicians anyway, so it doesn't matter. Surely they are the people we aim to impress, aren't they? [/quote] I see your point but I do not subscribe to an us and them concept so much. It's a black and white view of things and I paid for a colour licence. When successful working musicians are earning what bands do they choose to see for themselves in their time off? I suppose it must be like the old busman's holiday sometimes - difficult to appreciate because you do for a living what most others do for leisure.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1499908530' post='3334478'] People [i]do[/i] notice, if you make them. Tonight's gig was a blues rock trio and the drummer and me got a lot of handshakes for being a "great" rhythm section. We made people notice. Even if an audience doesn't cotton on, the band will know. The very least you have to do is make the band glad you're playing with them and not someone else. Most of my gigs in the last 30 years have come from band leaders seeing me play so there's another great reason to always put 100% effort into every note you play on stage. [/quote] That's the sort of [i]take charge[/i] attitude that I like. When you commit like that, even your mistakes become more musical.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1499909202' post='3334479'] Granted, I answer to no one, my time is my in. I play when ever I feel like it. [/quote] Then you and I are the lucky ones. Time is a rare commodity for most. For those with young families, forget it. Your time will not be your own ever again. Unless you have a job in a timber merchant's where you can use their wood shed during lunch break talking about the merits of woodshed is a moot point! My time was not my own due to old family responsibilities until recently. Now I have no one to answer to. It is all down to me. No longer can I avoid exercise, practice and extending my repertoire with the excuse that someone else's priorities are restraining me. If I'm honest, it's scary but at least it is [i]real[/i]. [quote name='blue' timestamp='1499909202' post='3334479'] I don't practice with an amp. I pick up a bass and use my phone to learn songs, partake in a tutorial or just practice scale application s using my phone as a metronome. Blue [/quote] I think I must have a tendency towards claustrophobia because I find it a struggle to practice with 'phones or looking at stuff on tiny screens made for children and the wee folk in general. I am fortunate to have alternatives. Just as an aside; Did your festival spot as support for Frampton boost your personal ambition? You seem to have refocussed somewhat.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1499891877' post='3334404'] ...Sometime I think "woodshedding" is a disipline of the past. Blue [/quote] l take personal issue with that statement simply because I am unable to do other than woodshed at the moment. Maybe because I am such a late "born again" returnee to the band thing or maybe because of any one of many things I keep getting false starts but I have to make use of the idle time by going back in my shed, as it were, else I'll stagnate. When idle (no gigs played or booked for, say, six months) It's got to be the same for those with better ability than mine... maybe more so. By the way, I have a modest but comfortable woodshed, relatively speaking as it is really a double glazed workshop. Not everyone lives with access to one. I read about bassists living in flats, apartments, tenements and the like who will never have the luxury of a family free space where you can play amplified and not be a nuisance to neighbours. I have no fear of carrying on, playing for my own pleasure, if it comes to it but I'd miss out on the ensemble stuff and I [i]miss[/i] that. There is only so much you can practice on your own unless you are one of those driven individuals that I can always admire but never quite relate to.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1499886624' post='3334357'] We will often see comments here on bass chat pushing the idea that punters don't notice the flaws in our shows. I recently saw 2 pro level shows, Ann Wilson from Heart & Peter Frampton. Both shows were outstanding. Production and the caliber of musicianship was outstanding. Do you think they got to that level of performance with a "punters can't tell the difference" attitude? My point, none of us should use this "punters can't tell the difference" as an excuse for "shoddy" performances. Blue [/quote] It's a bit like butter and margarine. For some people or punters as you put it, nothing short of virtuosity is worth paying to attend. They'll listen, criticise then move on looking for what they perceive to be [i]the real thing[/i]. Others are merely looking for a social lubricant in the form of live music. They take what's dished out and consume it with passion. I'd say they're an inspiration to any musician starting out, frankly. There is a thriving market for both sorts of bands fortunately. It's a small point but I think the word punter implies the sort of consumer who takes a gamble that the entertainment will be good enough to keep them happy. That would only be a small slice out of the live music consumer pie. I believe that the major group of these consumers will have an idea of what they are about to see when they go to a venue. As regards entertainment a night out is nothing like a gamble for them. I know from your descriptions that this is not how it's done so much in your neck of the woods however.

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499855755' post='3334049'] It's just meant to be a bit of fun to see out of those six songs which people would prefer given the choice. WEBFF isn't one of them this time around, but nothing is off limits, with the exception of The Laughing Gnome Actually, after this morning's band conversation, I don't think we will be doing She's Got Medals anytime soon either. Sorry Andy_L I'll have a word with our keys player. He's a music teacher and he's all MIDI'd up, so I'm sure it would be do-able. [/quote] Hahahaha, "She's Got Medals". Another dodgy one would be the Little Bombardier I'd imagine. That one's a bit difficult to listen to post Savile. How on earth would you perform that to an audience in good conscience these days I wonder? Cheers chap. I listened to the early B side release of WEBFF after my last post here and I liked it a lot. There was, I think, a cello accompaniment, possibly an oboe too. Now I am not sure which of those two versions I'd favour. I doubt either version would serve in your set very well though but thanks for asking on my behalf.

[quote name='casapete' timestamp='1499854276' post='3334037'] There's something great about getting paid in readies at the end of the night after a pub gig... [/quote] It's the same where ever there are people who put something of themselves into their work mate. I started out working in engineering. I remember the loss of incentive to get out of bed for work that occurred within me years ago because the pay packet was eliminated for "good". It started when we went from weekly pay packets to hybrid (fixed cash sum with the remainder on a cheque) weekly pay packets. It forced us workers into a closer relationship with banks that, for the time, just wasn't normal. We still collected our pay by queueing at the Pay Window by the Time Office. For lots of works this was a weekly routine and quite a social one. It seems not to exist any more except perhaps in the smaller firms. Even then I can't imagine that there are many legitimate companies giving out pay packets any more. What is not understood by today's generations is the social aspect of that tradition and especially the consequence of it's eventual demise. When that and in-house catering were eradicated wholesale from the workplace there weren't the same opportunities to be sociable with your workmates other than in your own time outside of working hours. I lost interest in work altogether however when we were converted to the soulless bank automated transfer every fortnight. Soon after monthly pay was fully imposed. The unions had said that it was an inevitability and they were right. You can justify it as much as you like but [i]getting paid[/i] is almost as rewarding as the cash value in the act of handing over the money. Receiving money at your account is not. Musicians are in one of a small group of occupations that still get cash in hand with no suggestion of illegal activity, tax evasion or hiding income in some way. Looks like it won't last forever sadly. Bah.

That'll be it. Ta.

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1499850020' post='3334001'] I'm sure this was originally titled "end of cash in hand jobs" - I read it very briefly before it refreshed [/quote] I can really [i]feel[/i] your disillusionment.

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499709749' post='3333075'] Just for a bit of fun, we've added a poll to the front page of our web site. We usually learn songs in batches of six (i.e. one choice each), but we're a bit pushed for time before the next gig, so have agreed we will do three. But which three? We've all chosen one each. All you have to do is go to our [url="http://www.changestwobowie.co.uk"]homepage[/url] and vote for one song. We will learn the three that get the most votes. Closing date 31/7/17. [/quote] As a fan of Victor Meldrew I tend to avoid polls because they wind me up. To misquote the old curmudgeon; [i]I'd rather creosote a rhinoceros[/i] than take part. I was curious about one tune of DB's however; Wild Eyed Boy from Freecloud (or Freedom, if you have seen one of the rare releases with that typo)... if it was in your set you'd do the first version sans orchestral accompaniment wouldn't you? Or have you got an ambitious keyboard jockey who can MIDI up a convincing orchestra for you? Just curious.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1499721646' post='3333198'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln8hXPHq33I[/media] [/quote] That was fun! A couple of minor points;[list] [*]I thought he was calling out for a "shot of kaka" at one point. I started to seriously consider fulfilling his request. [*]I am definitely [i]not[/i] going to check his P like he asks about three quarters of the way through. I think there is a test kit for that already. [/list] All good entertainment and a bit of gen thrown in. Thanks for posting.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1499785679' post='3333594'] I'm none the wiser about P-basses, but I'm kind of enjoying the guy's dress sense. Check out these fine socks: [media]http://youtu.be/CVAogj4U92M[/media] [/quote] Yup. Those socks look hefty 'nuff. Bet they're good for metal.

How many pedals can Patitucci's spider use simultaneously though?

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1499777925' post='3333528'] [b]ALL ISSUES TO DATE ARE NOW UP ONLINE ON THE GUITAR INTERACTIVE WEBSITE: [url="https://www.guitarinteractivemagazine.com/issues/"]https://www.guitarin...ine.com/issues/[/url][/b] [/quote] Three attempts at links in the 2014 OP gave this result; "... can't find the server at licklibrary.ceros.com." Followed the Guitar Magazine link and tried to search for "[size=3]Hohner Headless B2-ADB-BK Bass[/size]" as listed in your OP but GuitIntMag did not recognise the text string. Lost interest. Was I missing something?

I always thought bracing opposite panels was more effective for reducing resonance.

I remember Hi Fi magazines of the seventies saying that the best LPs were digitally mastered.

All the very best to you both!

[quote name='johnnylager' timestamp='1498380153' post='3324125'] Can't listen to them since the quack played them during my last colonoscopy. [/quote] I really wasn't prepared for that revelation. Although I've always wanted to use the "This thread is worthless without photos" gif I have the vague feeling that it might not be appropriate on this particular thread.

[quote name='steantval' timestamp='1498348163' post='3324043'] Glastonbury is just like a big version of Jools Hollands show - A few decent acts but most of it is utter dross. The presenters follow up by saying every act was amazing or brilliant, it would be great to hear one of them say that was f*cking sh*te. [/quote] One significant difference... Jools does not sit in on the act.

If it gets Mark out of a rut I'm all for it.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1498254320' post='3323517'] I wonder how Mark is doing on the tour with UB40 and Al Anderson & The Original Wailers? Any of you guys seen this show? Blue [/quote] King mentioned it on the interview with 6music's Shaun Keaveny. I wondered if your bud was on the tour. He's enjoying it by his own account. That's a show that I'd enjoy seeing. Wednesday's interview; http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08tlsw8 The interview is during the last hour of this three hour breakfast radio program.

How is VW on emissions these days?

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1498160173' post='3322917'] ...I wish he'd get himself out of this rut... [/quote] http://basschat.co.uk/topic/307328-victor-wooten-joins-nitro/

[quote name='crag42' timestamp='1498141049' post='3322770'] Gizmodrome [/quote] Thank you for the correction. Edited above.