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[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1492242602' post='3278855'] I believe that trumps Blue's four hour bookings if you add it up. Controversial. How was it apart from the hard work? I'm thinking you had a church venue or at least a venue that allowed the sound to breathe freely. [/quote] Yep, in a church so the work was being done in the space it was written for. Lots of good stuff, but some of the recitative passages where not hanging together well. I did have to discipline myself to not start swinging some of the basslines.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1492029233' post='3277380'] I am playing the St Matthew Passion on Friday. I have not done this kind of stuff for a VERY long time. I will be very tired on Saturday. Cracking bass lines though. He was The Don. [/quote] Got in an hour ago. 2.5 hours of playing after a 3.5 hour rehearsal this afternoon. That was HARD work. I remember why I stopped doing it now. It was interesting to go back to it after a long break and realise that his basslines are a huge part of my creative DNA.

I am playing the St Matthew Passion on Friday. I have not done this kind of stuff for a VERY long time. I will be very tired on Saturday. Cracking bass lines though. He was The Don.

Could someone who has actual experience of them run me through the different models? I know how the Fender range stacks up from top to bottom and what I should expect, but I have never got a handle on Dingwals.

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1491751826' post='3275154'] I really like the feel especially on a wider neck. It suits really fast playing or when I switch to a pick. [/quote] The neck is so wide that there is talk of it being the next Heathrow runway. I cannot comment on the speed thing because I have no experience of it.

I tried your Shuker F# in a bass bash many years ago. I mentally logged "one day". String spacing is 18mm.

I have tried to F# before but forgot to sort the nut out and could not work out why the string would not speak when it was open and was sharp at the 1st and 2nd frets. Just as well I am not stupid enough to admit that on a public forum.

Some of you may remember when this bass came up for sale here. It had no bridge. I thought that I would smack another 6 string bridge on it and I would be good to go. I had not realised that the well in the body was for a specific Overwater bridge which is no longer made. I could have splatted another bridge over the well but that would have been messy. I got into discussion with Chris at Overwater and decided to send it up to them to get it done properly. The baseplate of the bridge then came out of hiding and we were moving ahead. It is strung GDAEBF#. It has a D tuner on the F# to take it to E an octave below normal E. The scale is 36" so it is ripe for F# experimentation. I have always wanted to try F# but never had a scale length which I thought would do it justice. Now I have. The bass is from the early 90's and is certainly aesthetically of it's period. It is pretty beefy to pick up, but it sounds pretty beefy as well so that is fine. I will never be cavorting accross a stage while playing it. The extra string is somewhat challenging at the moment, but then the first 5 string took some getting used to as well so I shall persevere. The original preamp was dead so it has a new 2 band Overwater one in it. I am having a lot of fun. I played it at a wedding service today. Other than starting the first song a 4th too low it went ok. [url="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/peredur/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170408_145803_zpsrfmg6ilq.jpg.html"][/url] [url="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/peredur/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170408_145814_zpsjht2d6iq.jpg.html"][/url]

There is a series of drum podcasts called I'd hit that which have been the pick of podcasts for me so far. He did some bassists as well but they are all very entertaining.

From bitter experience the only stand I would trust is the corner of a room or the floor.

Ho hum

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1491205572' post='3271115'] You don't give details of the size of the space or a budget. EBS freak is probably more up to date than I am but the obvious solution is to get further E435 Elements tops and as you suggest run them off the appropriate delay. If not then just go for one the smaller plastic boxes the RCF 308 suggests itself [url="http://www.rcf.it/en_US/products/pro-speaker-systems/art-7-series/art-708-a-mk-ii"]http://www.rcf.it/en...art-708-a-mk-ii[/url] [/quote] Getting more Elements is one way to go but the dispersion pattern is so tight that as soon as you move your head above or below the actual speaker you lose the detail of the sound. Obviously the bulk of the sound is still there, but the detail which make it a listening experience which does not require work if you have any sort of hearing issue is missing. When we put them in I never imagined they would be that tight. I know that this is how they work but I, naively, thought "it cannot be than focussed". The rake on the seating in the balcony is quite severe so really it is only 3 rows out of 10 who are getting the sound I hoped everyone would get and this would mean getting four more E435 tops + amps and that turns into a lot of expense. I was thinking RCF 308 but was canvassing a broader opinion. [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1491210708' post='3271158'] I'm with Phil - good choices there. The uniformity of the HKs would be good from a visual aspect - but I'm not sure how their - what looks to be - proprietary mount works. With churches, there's a lot of consideration as just putting speakers in - how are you going to mount it? How are you going to get the cables there... powered, passive? [/quote] Active would be a whole lot easier than passive as there is one less thing to turn on. At the moment everything goes on with 2 plugs and this makes it easy for people who are "OK" at sound but do not actually grasp the whole picture to run the rig. It is not a building which is 900 years old and needing complete architectural subtlety so mounting them is not a huge issue. Thanks y'all!

It would be super useful if I could search instead of trawl through them.

Sorry to derail the thread slightly, but while we have PA bods attention can I ask another question? I run the PA at church (qumix 32 + HK audio Elements system). The Elements system suits what we need just fine for downstairs but the balcony is raked seating and the elements have a super tight dispersion. When you are sitting in the line of fire then it is all good, but if you are higher up the tiers then the detail gets lost. I am thinking of putting in some standard plastic boxes for upstairs with a broader hf dispersion. They do not need to be beefy because the HK subs will do the heavy lifting and I presume that I can do an HPF and a slight delay on seperate outs on the qumix (cos it does everything else). Can anyone suggest a suitable cab?

I have one. It is great. Wheels through airport. Gig bag after that. No brainer.

I had a Lakland JO5 which I traded with a guy in the States for DJ 5 (or vice versa, I honestly cannot remember). It was easy peasy. I got hit for tax on the way in, but I knew that was coming. If I could justify it I would be all over this like a bad rash https://www.talkbass.com/threads/musicman-bongo-5hh-marty-bell-western-blue-big-sparkle-flake-finish.1265232/#post-19831602

Interesting to actually hear the fabled 3 position switch in action. I quite fancy those pickups and G&L sell them as aftermarket. I wonder if they are EMG sized?

Very civilised.

Link to the obbm goodness. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/303154-obbms-rock-wire-iem-monitor-cables/"]http://basschat.co.u...monitor-cables/[/url]

Status Streamline. Too many frets, I know, but I used to own one and it sits in such a way that everything is SUPER easy to reach.

That is pretty lush!