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Ormston Burns upright - help with value
Burns-bass replied to Burns-bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Had a few PMs about the bass, and I've uploaded images and advertised for sale at £650. Take a look, see what you think and let me know if I"m being bonkers about the value... -
Not sure if this is of interest to anyone, but here's my b[color=#3C3241]eautiful 1974 Fender Stratocaster. This is the hard tail model, with no tremolo. It's in lovely condition as you can see, and plays fantastically. [/color] [color=#3C3241]The pickups are strong, the guitar feels great and plays amazingly well. This is the desirable model with staggered pole pickups which are agreed upon to have the best sound. [/color] [color=#3C3241]The guitar has had the usual 5 way switch mod at the same time the pots were changed. The tuners have been changed to new reissue tuners to ensure the guitar plays well. Finally, one of the pickup covers has been replaced, this was because it cracked. [/color] [color=#3C3241]It's a good, honest strat that plays amazing well and sounds great. The couple of changes make the guitar more usable. [/color] [color=#3C3241]This guitar plays beautifully I have to say, low action and the maple neck is fantastic. The sustain is great, in part because of the hardtail bridge. Blues and rock lines sound fantastic. [/color] [color=#3C3241]The guitar come with a modern Fender moulded case. [/color] [color=#3C3241]Feel free to come and take a look if you're in Bristol. I can post, but would prefer collection. If this isn't your thing, I do have a 74 Telecaster Custom for sale too...[/color] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/2017-01-21%2014.56.53_zps3ohqzvjf.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/2017-01-21%2014.56.53_zps3ohqzvjf.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/2017-01-21%2014.57.01_zpstl4apsdc.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/2017-01-21%2014.57.01_zpstl4apsdc.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/2017-01-21%2014.57.08_zpskcam6yua.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/2017-01-21%2014.57.08_zpskcam6yua.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/2017-01-21%2014.57.13_zpsazzmmrii.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/2017-01-21%2014.57.13_zpsazzmmrii.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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Here we have a wonderful and I believe quite rare Ormson Burns upright bass. As you can see this is something of an oddity, but it's certainly full of character. I think that there were only 8 of these ever made, which makes it rare. I have estimated the value of the bass as a result of feedback from people here, but happy to chat if it's something you will want and actually use. The bass is completely all original, and actually plays and functions. The bass has some damage to it which the previous owner used Umbrol paint to touch up. It's a shame, but it's actually just in a few places, mostly on the bottom of the bass. The pickup is in good condition, and is housed on a foam base which seems to be fine. The bass fired up when I played it around 18 months ago, but since then has been doing nothing. The chrome on the bass and the scratchplates are all original and seemingly in good condition. The F-holes aren't real holes, they're bits of black plastic stuck on the front of the bass (it was the 60s, eh?), but they are all original. The neck fingerboard isn't real ebony, it's some sort of ebony-style veneer. This has, in some places cracked a little bit, hopefully I've pictured that. I've had the bass endpin built by an engineer, and it performs beautifully. The original was sadly lost somewhere through the sands of time, but the replacement is a functional improvement. To my eternal shame I bought this to finish, but never bothered and now I have to make way for a very expensive new bass. It does however require a little bit of work to get it into tip-top playing condition. I'd suggest:[list] [*]Re-wiring the bass. [*]New pots, or at least a clean [*]New nut (the strings sit on this and function well, but [*]Full set-up [/list] After that you'll have an incredible bass that will certainly turn heads. I believe one was for sale a number of years go, which you can see here in all of its glory: [url="http://www.daydreamguitars.com/enlarge.asp?ref=012_1_.jpg&title=ORMSTON+BURNS+UPRIGHT+BASS"]http://www.daydreamg...NS+UPRIGHT+BASS[/url] Price wise I'm happy to chat through options, but I'm not desperate for cash and I don't want trades too. A price of £650 was suggested to me as a fair one in a PM, so let's go with that. Hopefully someone will want her! In terms of postage, I've considered it but I think it might be a bit of a hassle, so I would prefer collection from Bristol. I work for myself, so you can view and collect at any point. [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.17_zpsgqaa269b.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.17_zpsgqaa269b.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.37_zpsfyynvwa1.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.37_zpsfyynvwa1.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.36_zpsjfn6vhcg.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.36_zpsjfn6vhcg.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.29_zpsmflnlrw9.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.29_zpsmflnlrw9.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.54_zpsrzcyhhau.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.22.54_zpsrzcyhhau.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.07_zpspu4xjadr.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.07_zpspu4xjadr.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.13_zpst1rn3v2z.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.13_zpst1rn3v2z.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.17_zpsgqaa269b.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.17_zpsgqaa269b.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.21_zpsgbvlzbze.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.21_zpsgbvlzbze.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.59_zpspyartaec.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.59_zpspyartaec.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s47.photobucket.com/user/lawriejones1/media/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.42_zpslq8bpdfb.jpg.html][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f187/lawriejones1/Ormston/2017-02-19%2017.23.42_zpslq8bpdfb.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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It's certainly something. I'm not sure if call it music mind you.
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I can help with this too. Can bring along some vintage basses if anyone is interested.
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I should point out he was playing a gig, not enjoying a pint.
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Having seen Mark King in a small pub once, I reckon you could give him a £20 Encore and he'd make it sing...
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50s and 60s stuff is all based on arpeggios, so just make sure you learn major, minor and dominant arpeggios and you should be fine. If you know the route and 5th, just add the 3rd, 7th and octave and you should be fine!
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I have no meaningful advice here (I play, or rather 'attempt' jazz), but she sounds like a great woman and what a lovely present. The band look fantastic, and I bet will be brilliant. I'd say not to worry too much. I've played gigs at weddings and you'll have an amazing time and everyone will be rooting for you. Get the start and the end right, and you'll become a legend! Hope someone has some better advice, but good luck from me.
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Ormston Burns upright - help with value
Burns-bass replied to Burns-bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Cheers bass playing friends! I will get some pictures and get her up for sale. The issue has just got a little more pressing today. -
Ormston Burns upright - help with value
Burns-bass replied to Burns-bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
It all seems to work! I'd love it to go to someone who would use it. It's just sat here annoying the cat (and my wife!). I have a whole room full of vintage gear and this one I've never bothered to mess with. I'd suggest it needs to be rewired but the circuit is incredibly simple. -
Ormston Burns upright - help with value
Burns-bass replied to Burns-bass's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Will do the bass is in my music room at the moment and it's very dark! It's this one: http://www.daydreamguitars.com/enlarge.asp?ref=012_1_.jpg&title=ORMSTON+BURNS+UPRIGHT+BASS It's a solid body bass, the f holes are black plastic. It's a quirky instrument! -
Hi all, I have an Ormston Burns upright bass which I'm looking to get rid of, and will inevitably advertise on this forum when I finally get my camera sorted and it's not raining and dark. Anyway, it's all original aside from the endpin I had custom made. All seems to work, although the pickup hasn't been tested for very long. There are some marks on the fingerboard where the finish has worn away, been chipped etc. The previous owner touched up a bit of paint with some Umbro paint (not a vintage fan). But aside from that is all good, apart from being a little dusty. Anyway, I have no idea what this might be worth. I paid a few hundred for it many moons ago I think. Any help in valuing this beast gratefully appreciated, I have no frame of reference. I need to seek because of a combination of a new baby and a new upright on the way.
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Harsh, but probably fair. This was the sort of stuff I listened to before the opposite sex entered my life.
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Also, be interested in seeing you play in Bristol. I'm not really up on local gigs so feel free to send me a message with your gigs and I'll see if I can come along.
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Hi Johnnie, I'd suggest having a chat with Martin Penning in Froome. He's a wonderful DB luthier and is likely to be able to source an instrument locally. Greg Cordez on the forum is selling a particularly lovely instrument on here, I've heard it live and it's lovely (although he made my piece of junk sing wonderfully) but it's a pro level instrument that has been set up and maintained impeccably. I'm a firm believer in that you get what you pay for with a DB. He imports Chinese basses and sets them up too if you can't stretch to a vintage instrument or one of his own hand made instruments.
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Beginner DB - when to start playing tunes?
Burns-bass replied to No. 8 Wire's topic in EUB and Double Bass
If you want to learn the classics then I recommend a Sun Records comp. This one is great. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00005Y47C/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1485021224&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=sun+records&dpPl=1&dpID=51WPbOb73DL&ref=plSrch -
Beginner DB - when to start playing tunes?
Burns-bass replied to No. 8 Wire's topic in EUB and Double Bass
I use this personally through a Bose Bluetooth speaker which is great. http://www.dronetonetool.com -
Beginner DB - when to start playing tunes?
Burns-bass replied to No. 8 Wire's topic in EUB and Double Bass
Sorry, should have explained more. The open string exercises are form the Evolving Bassist book. They're great at helping get a big sound, and incrementally increase in complexity, to the point now where I'm working on 16th note passages. Arpeggios I call chords because I'm playing jazz, but you're quite right. I began to play tunes from the start because it's fun. The way I see it, if I do everything else I should be doing I get to indulge myself knowing the work is done. -
Beginner DB - when to start playing tunes?
Burns-bass replied to No. 8 Wire's topic in EUB and Double Bass
It sounds like you're doing very much the same as I did! My view is to continue with your structured practice, the stuff you need to do. But make sure you enjoy it - and for me that's either playing tunes or improvising over jazz standards (poorly!). It may sound dull but I structure my practice like this (give or take): Warm up Sound building - open string exercises Scales/Chords to a drone Sight reading / Work through a book Playing through changes / playing along with records With a glass of wine I'll sometimes try and write a few lines that use specific approaches. All gets written down and then I can add pointers on stuff I'm getting wrong or struggling with. Some days though, I'll stick on some tunes I know and enjoy playing. -
Are the Yita bows any good? I'm a beginner/intermediate player so a bow is a logical next step. Are they set up to work straight out of the box? Any help gratefully appreciated!
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Nobody ever seems to say thanks for these, but I will; Thanks! What a bass player Carol Kaye was, eh? Can I ask what programme you use to create your transcriptions?
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One of the best ways to understand a key signature is to write your own baselines. Use something like Realplayer and create a few basic chord progressions and then write your own baselines. Or find some tracks: http://www.songkeyfinder.com/songs-in-key/a-major And transcribe some of these.
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This might sound stupid, but blues bass is pretty simple. The best bass players will understand the guitar figures too. Worth learning at least a bit of blues guitar or blues piano. Both relatively simple and a lot of fun!