bobbass4k

More left-field than most of these suggestions, but mine are probably: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOOhFSITaaI[/media] I just love his bass line, ridiculously simple but just so perfect. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAc5JCKfgZ0[/media] One of my favourite songs of all times so it's no surprise I like the bassline, but I think it's really creative. Fitting a good bassline around 2 guitars, keyboards, strings, vocals and a very busy drum part can't be easy, but I love the way the bass meanders around everything. Every instrument is doing it's own thing but it never sounds cluttered, at least to me.

[url="https://soundcloud.com/bobbass4k/as-violet-braces-myrrh"]https://soundcloud.com/bobbass4k/as-violet-braces-myrrh[/url] Quickly trimmed down, not really how I'd planned it but I won't get time to improve it so here it is. The title is actually cryptically christmasy, a shiny internet cookie for anyone who figures it out.

Did we ever settle on a time limit? My spurt of ambient self indulgence currently sits at 18 minutes, what should I be aiming to whittle it down to?

[quote name='NickH' timestamp='1354885313' post='1891595'] Check this bad boy out - choral arrangement of the Battlestar Galactica vesion. [/quote] Speaking of the BSG version... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUchAD44xA8[/media] I think I prefer it to the Hendrix version to be honest, the eastern twist and the power chord chug are great.

[quote name='daz' timestamp='1354838589' post='1891231'] I dont like crtitisizing anyone who can play 'better' than i can, it makes me feel something of a fraud, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Less is more. [/quote] The trouble is a lot of people think like that and they shouldn't, music (to me at least) isn't about how many notes you can play per minute. A lot of these sorts of players act like there's some sort of league table and whoever can play the most notes "wins" at bass. That's just not how I view music, and I don't see why that opinion is somehow invalid because they can play more notes per minute than I can (because ALWAYS what those types of players mean by "best"). For context, this is one of my favourite basslines, definitely better than whatever that guy's playing (naughty language warning, nuns should not proceed): [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96O8SM20y7U[/media]

Definitely back in this month, that picture for me conjures up ambient gloom drone because it's kinda depressing, or fast heavy post-hardcore riff-fest, because clearly a lively night of drinking has preceded it, can't decide which to opt for.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1354636351' [i][u][b]So do we all like the sound of a single payment for a one off advert and the option of a single yearly payment?[/b][/u][/i] [/quote] No, with no guarantee of selling I think up front payments just for placing ads are going to put members off and prove a giant headache for you.

A fixed £20 fee would definitely put me off selling, ATM I only sell a couple pedals a year on here, and £20 up front to list less £150 worth of stuff that isn't guaranteed to sell, and in fact probably won't sell just isn't worth it. Probably half the stuff I've ever listed here I've either given up on selling or had to take to eBay, so an up front fee is just stupid, what if I pay my £20 in January, list a few things, but by December I've not sold anything, would you refund my fee? The marketplace just isn't reliable enough to justify an up front fee. A capped percentage of all sales might work, but you'd probably just get people factoring it into their prices like they do with paypal fees, raising prices so potentially they don't sell. As much as it pains me to say it, I think what TB do is pretty sensible, anyone can view and reply to classifieds, but only supporting members can post them. A TB supporting membership is $20, which is cheaper than the £20 you're proposing and gives other benefits besides just classifieds. The problem though is that you'd probably have to remove features from a regular membership to give to the supporting members, like avatars, signatures and the like. Personally I would pay £10 or £15 a year for a supporting membership, but you'd probably have a backlash from people who don't want to pay when their avatars disappear or they can't post ads any more. I know we have significantly less members than TB so it might not end up being worth it, but I think it's far preferable to just paying for classifieds access.

My answer this changes every time, today's selection: Vocals: Chino Moreno (Deftones, lovely soaring clean tones and a good scream) Vocals: Eva Spence (Rolo Tomassi, I like female rock vocalists and she's the best) Guitar: Mike Vennart (Oceansize, British Theatre and whoring himself out to Biffy Clyro) Guitar: Stuart Braithwaite (Mogwai, simple, beautiful playing) Bass: Neil Mahony (Amplifier, wonderfully creative bassist) Electronics/Keyboards/Guitar: Bryant Clifford Meyer (Isis, Red Sparowes, somewhat under appreciated but I don't think Isis would have been the same without him) Drums: Mark Heron (Oceansize, Kong, technically impressive but also astoundingly creative) I'm not really sure what it would sound like but I'd pay good money to see it.

I really like it with phaser too, it can sound a bit cheesy but if use properly It think it helps high register stuff stand out.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ii8E21rbvQ[/media]

How are we defining experimental? Is it instrumentation, structure, musical ambition? I'd probably call something like this experimental: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ6Sk8Aj-SQ[/youtube] Sure they're using guitar, bass and drums, but the guitarist uses a lot of extended techniques and prepared guitars. I can certainly hear a lot of punk and maybe some thrash influences in there, but they way combine and execute them is certainly pushing the boat out for me. Something like this as well: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzu1-SI7_KY&feature=related[/media] Or is being experimental more down to completely left-field avant-garde ideas, like Metal Machine Music or John Cage's stuff? Not just combining existing things in a new way but actually coming up with new things?

I know the thread's drifted off it but I just thought I'd clear up the initial point, Muse do not mime (apparently the Olympics performance was mimed as they all were but that's the only exception). Bellamy has a habit of singing far from the mic and his vocals set up is geared to compensate for it, they use a mic with a long range, run it through a compressor, adjust the gain manually etc. Perhaps more to the point though, I thought Jools had a blanket no miming policy?

Opened up media player to fill a boring gap in the us election coverage, and this gem was the first random selection: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl4VmZwnUoE[/media] They used to be so good.

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Not surprised really, when you think of big bass distortion tones Nate Mendel's not really the first name that comes to my mind...

They may have swerved off the road a bit musically (or ploughed through the crash barrier) but I don't think they're capable of doing a bad gig.

Yup, just what it does, it can be tamed though, if you use fingers near the neck with just the neck pup it should behave. It doesn't track well on long sustained notes though, and you can forget anything below open A. It's a pedal that requires a certain way of playing, but it's well worth it, run it with a gated fuzz and a filter and there's no better bass synth sound as far as I'm concerned.

I've got my scribblings from when I figured it out, which are comprehensible to nobody but me unfortunately, I could write it up if you really want it but as Higgie said, there's nothing more rewarding than figuring it out yourself.