Barking Spiders

You beat me to the punch there with Nevermind. I think the key to its datedness in the production because I'd also say Siamese Dream by Smashing Pumpkins also hasn't lasted the test of time. For a short while as a teenage wannabe in the 80s I used to be a bit obsessed with shred guitar and had albums by Satriani, Vai, Steve Morse and a bunch of others. These sound as outmoded as riverboat type jazz and parlour songs. I recently went back to some 80s electro /synth noises and was surprised that much of it hasn't really dated despite the advances in technology. On the other hand a lot of 80s indie guitar bands now sound pretty dated in particular Echo and The Bunnymen, and The Sound but not The Smiths and House of Love. I used to be a big EATB fan but Crocodiles and Ocean Rain sound irrelevant now

Yep, I've become fully engrossed in this World Cup so much so that in the evenings rather than put in a bit of bass time I've been watching the matches. I've not played bass any since the opener. It's made me wonder if I've lost a bit of interest in bass now. Anyone else been gripped by the WC to the extent you've also not picked up a bass. Taking this wider, what other distractions - other than shouting at the kids and quality time with missus/mr - would stop you from even taking a bass out of it's case/bag.

For me side 1 i(LP format) is quite strong but it all goes t1ts up thereafter with about 3 decent tracks from the other 3 sides. Another +1 here for the supposed classic debut by The Stone Roses. I also used to have this. It starts off quite well but tails off from track 4. 3 goodish songs out of 11 ain't a classic in my book.

I've tried all the so-called classics mentioned so far but meh to the lot of 'em. The main problem with many of them are the vocals esp the Stones, Rush and Led Zep. Robert Plant's vocals are generally fookin awful, especially on the rockier and bluesier numbers. One band I've tried really hard to see the appeal of is Radiohead. I've now tried OK Computer 7 or 8 times. It's joyless depressing pants. My good lady is a big fan of Metallica and I've tried giving MoP a good hearing several times. I actually far prefer Load. There are also a good number of new wave and post punk bands/artists I think are massively overrated yet I'm generally a fan of these genres. Joy Division - i used to have both Closer and Unknown Pleasures but there are just 3 half decent tracks between both. The rest are utterly dismal New Order - don't even bother with any of the albums proper, yet they're generally highly rated. Substance has all their better tunes. The Clash -also used to have the first and London Calling. The first is a noisy mess and LC could've been half OK if they'd cobbled together the best 9-10 tracks

Didn't like that at all. I can see there's a niche for this retro Brand New Heavies type thing but it won't cross over to the mainstream

But it isn't Chic, not just without him but also without Tony Thompson on drums and Alfa Anderson and Luci Martin on vocals. They were too definitive a line-up. Tony Thompson was a fantastic drummer and an inspiration to me. A master of the hi-hat -snare combination and his playing was tighter than a gnat's chuff

Ha ha, no way could you really get a decent slap sound playing like that. All his action is from the elbow if not the shoulder and zero sign of wrist flicking motion.

Seen her on Later a couple of times and on another programme and frankly she's just another case of emperors's new clothes. Take the Jacko/Madge inspired dance routines out of the equation and there's not much left.

Basswise my go to players to learn from are the likes Larry Graham, Bernard Edwards, Louis Johnson, Bootsy etc as funk is a fave genre. Guitar based rock isn't my usual bag but there are a few fine players in these fields that I particularly like to listen to and learn from. Dunno why them rather than others, other than that they're very versatile. Dave LaRue - a mate used to be big into Dixie Dregs and the Steve Morse Band. While the music was so-so for me the bass playing stood out as being a great example of a player having the chops, playing appropriately and knowing when not to overdo it esp when it comes to slap n popping. Stuart Hamm - I quite like a bit of Joe Satriani and cam across SH through him. Don't see him getting a lot of mentions on BC yet he's clearly a top flight player as his live solo Country Music shows. Some might think it''s OTT bit it's fun So over to you..if you're mainly a fan of metal, blues rock whatever what funkers or pop players do you like to learn from?

Not my usual bag and not familiar with Jerry Peek. But he's a great player for sure. I'll have to check out more of his playing

I flipped though 5 and 6 on iPlayer and gave every act a couple of minutes. The only one i let play all the way through was Kamasi Washington. Excellent stuff. great rhythm section with the guy on stand up bass. Best act by several hundred country miles. Don't get the fuss about St Vincent. Nowt of interest there. Move on. I also feel a tinge of sadness when a once great act seems to p1$$ over their legacy and such as is the case with Nile Rogers. The woman in the green dress has an awful voice though the new track is weak anyway. The guy on bass is fine enough but he ain't Bernard. Other people maybe able to play the right notes in Chic basslines but no one has managed to get his feel and groove.

most entertaining and yes that Metallica song does sound better his way 😊

...followed by gagging and a sack over the head for a finish

..not forgetting griping, complaining and whingeing! Show me someone who's never whinged/moaned/griped and I'll show you a fibber or a saint. It does irk me though how some members of the PC Thought Police confuse expressing a negative opinion about someone/thing with moaning. Most of us at least balance this with positive views about things we like, objectively appreciate or respect.

I wasn't old enough to be in the OGWT target demographic but having seen some re-runs on BBC4 it was hard going. All a bit earnest what with studious proggy musos and angsty American singer songwriter hippies 😉. I'm more inclined to the vapid fluffiness of TOTP with its glam bands comprising blokes who look like builders in big sparkly suits with lapels like Concorde wings. My big beef with Later is that the tone is generally a bit serious or at least reverential / deferential. I like my music enough but don't view its makers as special beings touched by the hand of God. Whenever I see anyone referring to some guitarist or other as 'a god' I want to knock some sense of proportion into their heads.

Because moaning /dissing stuff is the lifeblood of humanity and this forum 😉

3, 786,401 or thereabouts

Dunno this but I'll sure check it out next time i can. Only recently came across this gem, but i was released in 1994

Quite like some of their stuff and yep they use synths and samples a lot plus the odd bit of bass and guitar Quite a few old school acts doing stuff this year. The Orb have a new album out this month and are playing at the Blue Dot festival at Jodrell Bank as are The Chemical Btothers. Orbital played there last year and have a new album out in September. The Black Dog have just released two new albums and mouse on Mars have just got a new one out.

I think there are a few BCers apart from me partial to some electronica. This thread will probably sink without trace but you never know. I always like hearing new stuff so would welcome recommendations what folk are listening to whether Warp or Ninja Tune stuff, trip hop, drum n' bass, ambient, House, krautrock etc. So, bring it on.

For me the thing with fingers is that you can change from slap n' pop to trad fingerstyle to snapping ( pulling upwards with thumb and forefinger) in a trice. Come to think of it while I've often used this approachI don't know what the technique's called

Yep, it never takes long for HMV to put 2 for £10 deals on new albums after they've been released. The dance /electronica section in my local branch is a bit miniscule so i don't go there much but for rock n' pop they still offer reasonable VFM on CDs. Price of LPs is a bit bonkers though. I get most of my stuff on Amazon from sellers like Magpie sometimes for as little as 1 penny + pp!

I've never really got to grips with using picks either on basses or guitars,. Besides, bassplayingwise my preference is for genres where the pick is never really suitable i.e. funk and disco. I dislike using picks even more on electric and acoustic guitars, especially playing chords.

IMO the best contributions towards music from the 70s were the heyday of classic funk, King Tubby and the invention of Dub, the first major steps for electronica with Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream and the explosion of punk (for its attitude towards music making rather than the content)

I'm a bandless hobbyist these days and put i just enough practice to keep my hand in. At 48 I'm not going be making any money from music any time soon and accept that my band days are probably behind me. So, I'm not sure I should be putting too much time into the bass when I oughta be honing other skills that'll earn me a crust in my dotage . Were I half my age then I'd join SBL for sure!